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Forum Post: Here are 5 things that Occupy and Tea Party can agree on

Posted 11 years ago on Sept. 17, 2012, 3:04 p.m. EST by divisionamerica (4)
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  1. Foreign Policy - End The Wars.
  2. Debt - We need to liquidate our 16 trillion dollar debt
  3. The Federal Reserve - Did you know a PRIVATE bank controls your currency?
  4. Corporatism - end the merging of corporations and government
  5. Civil Liberties - Stop the coming police state, get rid of Patriot Act.

please watch this video to learn more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wowPGHC_lmA



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[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

After being picked by his backers due to their possession of a love letter to his married mistress, after same backers also backed Teddy Roosevelt's Moose Party run for the presidency, after the third party strategy worked, splitting the opposition vote, Wilson became president, after signing backers' 1913 Federal Reserve Act, a broken Woodrow Wilson said this:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

[-] 1 points by divisionamerica (4) 11 years ago

"Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws." - Nathan Rothschild

[-] 1 points by Tommiethenoncommie (211) 11 years ago

We cannot end the wars unless whiny babies realize the necessity of nuclear weapons and stop using hand slaps.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 11 years ago

another imbecile who insists the Fed Reserve is private.

because everyone knows presidents and legislative bodies always appoint and approve the management of private companies.

[-] 0 points by notaneoliberal (2269) 11 years ago

Yes, and all private corporations give all but 6% of their profits to the treasury.

[-] 0 points by TheRoot (305) from New York, NY 11 years ago

I have been around long, long before the Tea Party. I believe that the Poster is looking for reasons for building coalitions and from his perspective there are five of them. His #4 subsumes his #3- ending the merging of corporations and government would put the Fed in its place- the garbage can. But the point about the Fed is that they foisted their crony monetary system in the US through government and imported it all over the world through government. What had been a loose agreement among the elite is law the world over, where the Governments who enforce it are just as dishonest as the bankers who bought and paid for it. Corporations suck on the teat of easy credit from the banks and all its derivations in the financial industry. They can expand without constraint and as they do are ruining the environment the world over. When any of them overstep, there're the central banks to wipe their noses clean and throw their snot on all of us. In the latest round of nose wiping, the central bank in the US is proposing to buy $40B per month of the horrendous failures of housing derivatives.

99% of 314M Americans is a lot of people. Building coalitions among the groups comprising just 30M Americans will go a long way in the US, don't you think? I am suggesting to look for what we all have in common and appeal to that. I have viewed the poster's video but what the Poster is missing are all the other people in America who are not associated with the Tea Party or Occupy but are just as abused by the 1%. The point is that all of us have a boat load in common. Let's associate to increase our numbers in the fight against these cronies. The financial elite, their thugs in government, and their incestuous corporate circles won't be able to work their machinery when 30M people gum it up.

[-] -2 points by slizzo (-96) 11 years ago

building coalitions is wonderful.

disassociation from reality ("the fed is private") is a mental illness.

a coalition built on mental illness will not work and is not worth fighting for. people who claim the Fed is private have something very wrong with them. they might as well be saying the moon is made of green cheese.

[-] -1 points by TheRoot (305) from New York, NY 11 years ago

slizzo: You're right. But the Poster, divisionamerica, is a young man and may not be nearly as informed about the topic as you are. You might consider giving him a break by letting him know the facts. I am not bothered by the "ownership" question. To me they are more private than public. But if they were purely public, they still should be on the choping block. The whole point is that the monetary system is ruining societies the world over. In ours, the Fed is at the root of the system.

The Fed is a hybrid. "According to the Board of Governors, the Federal Reserve is independent within government in that "its monetary policy decisions do not have to be approved by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branches of government." Its authority is derived from statutes enacted by the U.S. Congress and the System is subject to congressional oversight. The members of the Board of Governors, including its chairman and vice-chairman, are chosen by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The government also exercises some control over the Federal Reserve by appointing and setting the salaries of the system's highest-level employees. Thus the Federal Reserve has both private and public aspects."


The Fed's decisions are not subject to approval by the President or Congress. It is not the only independent agency that isn't accountable to Congress but it is certainly the most important.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Looks like you are one of the idiots that thinks because they are "appointed" it doesnt mean they do whatever the fuck they want.

Private/public debate is useless. They do what they want.

[-] -1 points by slizzo (-96) 11 years ago

the Fed is not private, no matter how many layers your tinfoil hat has.

[-] 1 points by divisionamerica (4) 11 years ago

"Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws." - Nathan Rothschild

[-] 0 points by divisionamerica (4) 11 years ago

just watch the video, there is a clip of Alan Greenspan saying that the Fed is above the law.

[-] -1 points by slizzo (-96) 11 years ago

yep, he sure said that.

and the Fed STILL isn't "private" no matter how many layers your tinfoil hat has.


[-] 0 points by Buttercup (1067) 11 years ago

The Tea Bog Downers are nothing more than knuckle dragging idiots who are owned by the Koch Bros. The last thing any sane person should want is to be associated with them. The fact that the Koch's bought their bandwagon should be reason enough. If their knuckle dragging lunacy isn't. Their idiotic starve the government mentality is right up Koch alley. Weaken government so corporations and the wealthy can become more powerful. It's no wonder the Koch's bought them.

Doesn't anyone care about good old government corruption anymore? A political system drowning in corporate personhood. Government policy sold to the highest bidder. Where the wealthy don't have to vote. They just buy their legislation.

Why the hell should anyone care about having anything in common with the knuckle draggers?