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Forum Post: Hayek and Friedman, the Marx and Engels of the Utopian Right

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 1, 2011, 1:01 a.m. EST by looselyhuman (3117)
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Discuss, libertrolls.

Ok, you're not trolls. But you don't reflect the core values of this movement, either. Despite the counter-narrative, the media gets the OWS message: Inequality and economic injustice are the talk of the nation. These are NOT your issues.

But, go ahead, compare and contrast Hayek and Friedman from each other and from Marx and Engels, their utopian mirror-images.

Don't forget to show some love for the Gilded Age.


Semi-related, and while we're here, just had to share:

I am a collectivist and a fascist! Sweet!

Dutchess 1 points 5 minutes ago

And I am on your case because you are the fascist of a lifetime!!!!!!!!

A collectivist! A fascist!

How the hell do you think Hilter came to power?

In a perfect legal way!

Study your bloody history.

People looked for govt to solve their problems and what did they get?

The very govt you look to 'take care of you' is f*cking you in the ass, eroding your civil liberites, invading other countries for natural resources, creating money out of nothing and giving it to foreign banks and have you pick up the tab, detaining people indefinitely, warantless wiretapping everybody's phones, allowing for corporations to get off the hook for violating the law retroactively, monopolizing food world wide and altering it..... THATS what your corrupt govt has done and NO oversight NO accountability NO equal access under the law!!!!!!!!

YOU are a product of lifetime indoctrination!

Nothing like the righteousness of an extremist.

I really love how she goes from Austrian economic theory to oversight and equal protection... Non sequitor, anyone?

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[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

Celebrity Tag-Team Death Match !

Vienna & Chicago versus London & Manchester !!

Last School of Thought Standing gets to claim The Laurels of Their Pyrrhic Victory !!!

et vincit qui se vincit ~*~

[-] 0 points by looselyhuman (3117) 12 years ago

Yes! We need an intellectual coliseum for these titans of abstract theory.

Pyrrhic indeed. :o)

et victis honor

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

lol + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPj-8_wOZcA&feature=related & persevere for the lyrics !! 'victis honor' indeed ;-)

[-] 3 points by BlueRose (1437) 12 years ago

Ahaha! You would love this website: http://critiques.us/wiki/Critiques_Of_Libertarianism

[-] 1 points by looselyhuman (3117) 12 years ago

:) Thanks. It's a good site.

[-] 2 points by frytoy (41) from Berkeley, CA 12 years ago

You are definitely a collectivist and a fascist. ;)

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

WTF?! Moi ! Fascist ?! I'm proud to be associated with "Collectivism" and dovetail it (quite naturally - for me anyway!) with 'Libertarian' thought {cf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism } and Notions of True, Direct and Participatory Democracy [ http://ni4d.us/ ] ... BUT Fascism 'mate', is beyond the effing pale !

Incidentally Mussolini, who Hitler very much admired ... before the former was strung up by his compatriots .. defined Fascism as The Coming Together Of The Military, The State And The Corporations & he said that Fascism was more correctly "Corporatism" !!

Remind You Of Anywhere ?!!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

@ frytoy : I've replied in haste and had time to repent at leisure & oops, sorry as I'm realising that you probably weren't addressing your comment at me ... or even seriously .. DHoh !

[-] 1 points by frytoy (41) from Berkeley, CA 12 years ago

No worries. It was also sarcasm.

[-] 1 points by marga (82) 12 years ago

Many people deny being indoctrinated. They honestly believe they have total control of their life's. The only thing we have control of is the choice to chose from the choices we are given, which often suck, or are next to none and our emotions and believes which gets us in more trouble then we dare to admit. It takes a good sense of humor in this world or it can drive you over the edge.

[-] 0 points by Dutchess (499) 12 years ago

the 99%...includes everybody basically.

How can you not do math and speak with conviction about economics?

That is the question YOU have to ask yourself!

Did I already say....you are obsessed?

Or classified as FBI!