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Forum Post: Hatred that Comes from Fear is the Real Issue

Posted 6 years ago on July 15, 2013, 5:07 p.m. EST by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ
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Racism is not the issue in America. Fear is the issue. All the attention on racism takes the focus off of the fact that fear is exacerbated by the media -- including this forum -- and people blame each other for being afraid. The Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman matter was chosen because it had all the juicy details needed to hype the racism talk and ignore the fear. Fear translates directly into hate. I could be the most intense racist in the world, but if I do not hate/fear the race I judge, the only harm would be to me for being ignorant. We need to let each other know we are safe from each other and turn our attention to changing our government.



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[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 6 years ago

Consider : ''Fear'' is the absence of 'Love'. Also truthfully IF you were ''the most intense racist in the world'' & you were in a position to pass judgement on others - ''the harm'' - could and would, be very great indeed and perhaps we need to let young black males know that they ''are safe'' too. Further :

George Zimmerman killed one boy, 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. Although a Florida jury found Zimmerman not guilty, his attitude — that a young black male is an object suspicion and contempt — not only cost Martin his life but has infected the entire United States criminal justice system. Law Professor Michellle Alexander makes the point powerfully :

  • https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=480944621993500&id=168304409924191 - ''It is the Zimmerman mindset that must be found guilty – far more than the man himself. It is a mindset that views black men and boys as nothing but a threat, good for nothing, up to no good no matter who they are or what they are doing. It is the Zimmerman mindset that has birthed a penal system unprecedented in world history, and relegated millions to a permanent undercaste.''

The statistics back up Alexander’s point. Minorities, especially the six million young black men in America, get much worse outcomes from the criminal justice system for the same conduct :

  • 1. A black male born in 2001 has a 32% chance of spending some portion of his life in prison. A white male born the same year has just a 6% chance. [ http://www.sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/rd_reducingracialdisparity.pdf ]

  • 2. In major American cities, as many as 80% of young African-American men have criminal records. [Michelle Alexander, The New Jim Crow]

  • 3. African-Americans who use drugs are more than four times as likely to be incarcerated than whites who use drugs. African Americans constitute 14% of the population and 14% of monthly drug users. But African-Americans respresent 34% of those arrested for a drug offense and 53% of those sentenced to prison for a drug offense. [ The American Bar Asssociation]

  • 4. In seven states, African Americans constitute 80% or more of all drug offenders sent to prison. [Michelle Alexander, The New Jim Crow]

  • 5. Black students are three and a half times as likely to be suspended or expelled than their white peers. One in five black boys receive an out-of-school suspension. Education Secretary Arne Duncan who commissioned the study, said “The undeniable truth is that the everyday education experience for too many students of color violates the principle of equity at the heart of the American promise.” [New York Times]

  • 6. Black youth who are referred to juvenile court are much more likely to be detained, referred to adult court or end up in adult prison than their white counterparts. Blacks represented 28% of juvenile arrests, 30% of referrals to juvenile court, 37% of the detained population, 35% of youth judicially waived to criminal court and 58% of youth admitted to state adult prison. [National Council on Crime And Deliquency] &

  • 7. The United States imprisons a larger percentage of its black population than South Africa did at the height of apartheid. [Michelle Alexander, The New Jim Crow]

In 2004, the American Bar Association created a commission which produced recommendation to address “racial and ethnic bias in the criminal justice system.” Thus far, their recommendations have been largely ignored in much of the country.


e tenebris, lux ...


(Copied verbatim, under 'Fair Use' & use ICH link at the top to access all corroborating links of which I have only provided one @ #1 above)

''Fear'' is exactly what I would feel if I were a young black male in The U$A - especially IF I also had any insights into 'The Prison Industrial Complex' - BUT that is a whole different 'forum-post' !!!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22885) 6 years ago

One thing the article fails to mention is that our schools are largely segregated in this country. Okay, not officially, but de facto, they are. And, schools in poor and inner city areas have not figured out how to use the money they are given to really educate well. They do a very poor job and it is a great disservice to the young people.

So, all that said, this is a great article which makes us face many hard truths about our country. Very disheartening, but until we face them, we can't really make change.

[-] 3 points by TikiJ (-38) 6 years ago

The entire country is segregated, and "they" have no intention of doing the things that would end it.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 6 years ago

''10 Things Most Americans Don’t Know About America'', by Mark Mason :

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by TikiJ (-38) 6 years ago

The comments on the internet during this media bonanza show how incredibly racist and DUMB the people in this country are, and skin color knows no bounds with it.

Excellent post.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 6 years ago

Conditioning the populace mentally is their forte.

Falling for it is a choice we make, or don't make.

Drag and drop means taking your TV to high place, and letting it go.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 6 years ago

"Falling for it is a choice we make, or don't make"

Even when its done subconsciously over the course of decades?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 6 years ago

You overlooked my first line?

"Conditioning the populace mentally is their forte"


[-] 1 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 6 years ago

Fear is the mind killer! Looking forward to the day when I don't have to fear and panic in the presence of authority.

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 6 years ago

I blame all of this fear on the NRA and their failure to pass legislation requiring all who are legally entitled to open carry.