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Forum Post: GOP Delegates File Lawsuit to be Free from Romney

Posted 5 years ago on June 18, 2012, 1:11 a.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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Came across this story tonight... made me laugh. Even republicans don't like Romney.

"Over 120 delegates to the Republican National Convention have joined a lawsuit against the GOP arguing they have been illegally coerced into choosing Mitt Romney for the party’s presidential nominee and demanding they be “unbound” to vote for another candidate instead."

"The delegates claim the party violated federal law by forcing them to sign loyalty affidavits, under threat of perjury, to vote for Mitt Romney, though he is not yet the official nominee."

“They don’t want to be bound to any candidate, or even be forced to vote for the nominee,” Richard Gilbert, of Gilbert & Marlowe, attorney for the delegates, told Courthouse News. “To have a real convention, the delegates must have free will so that when they meet, they can persuade each other and then decide who to vote for.”

Read More - http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/gop-delegates-sue-to-be-free-from-romney/



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[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 5 years ago

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  • Displays heightened levels of deceitfulness in dealings with others, which involves lying and conning others without remorse.
  • Is so glib about lies, that the person may not know when they are lying.
  • Inability to abide by the social norms.
  • Displays complete lack of empathy for others – family, friends, even animals - and their situation for which they are responsible
  • Laughs seem cold & planned
  • Displays no feelings or shallow feelings only
  • Displays impulsive, self centered behavior
  • Displays no concern for safety of others around them

Research has revealed that since a sociopath never conforms to the rules of the society, he or she is not bothered about the consequences of his or her actions or lies. Such people are also able to inspire like minded people. Some of the other traits that are common in sociopathic people are that they are usually very intelligent and have a superficial charm and they are able to attain great success using unscrupulous methods. Thus they can also never learn from their own mistakes. SOCIOPATH RELATIONSHIPS: Sociopaths are known for their superficial charm, calculative and controlling behavior, which is one of the main reasons why they are able to decieve people and charm them with their smiling faces and good natures in a relationship. Relationships with sociopaths are really difficult to maintain as sociopaths are also masters of deceit and manipulations and they tend to take whole control of the relationship and the other person involved, leaving them feeling inferior. Sociopaths also never learn from their previous mistakes and they tend to commit the same mistake over and over again. They also never hesitate to manipulate their partners to gain control and power in the relationships and as they are remorseless, they use any means and methods possible to retain their control in the relationship and gain more power. Warning signs:

  • inconsistencies between what a person says and does over time
  • excuses or subject changing, when caught in a lie
  • laughter that is obviously “canned” or even rehearsed
  • no feeling of shame when caught an embarrassing situation or lie
  • dodging the question, answering it in a way that doesn’t really answer it
  • ability to sense vulnerabilities and motivated in using them for personal gain or pleasure, manipulate without remorse
  • seeing any social situation as a contest or a test, with the goal of personal gain
  • ability to understand rules & laws and judging them as a part of “the game”, but no ability for empathy or emotional understanding behind the rules
  • disregard for safety of self or others
  • cruelty to animals

[-] 0 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 5 years ago

Can an entire church be sociopathic?


[-] 2 points by brightonsage (4494) 5 years ago

Gee that's just like the GOP Congressmen. They don't want to raise taxes on the rich, but their constituents do. They don't want to vote for the Dream Act, but their constituents do, They don't want to vote for gay marriage, but their constituents do, There are a whole list of things that not just the Dems in their districts want, and the independents in their districts want, and even the Repubs want, and they still want to be free to vote for what the lobbyists want and will pay for.

Maybe it's fluoride in the water that makes Repubs act so strange as soon as they are elected?

[-] 2 points by friendlyopposition (574) 5 years ago

You have to include the context of the issue - these are Ron Paul supporters who still think they can pull off making him the nominee, even though the people have spoken.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago

I wrote in NO WAR in the primaries

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

The link is included so the context is fully there.

But most repubs don't like Romney. They just vote for him for the same reason dems that don't like Obama vote for Obama... they really don't like the other guy. It's a losing battle this year in my opinion.

[-] 2 points by friendlyopposition (574) 5 years ago

The context wasn't in your post. You didn't have to copy and paste but 3 more lines to get the Ron Paul piece, but you intentionally left it to distort what the article was really about. That's ok - its expected. People on both sides like to carve out little sound bites to make people believe one thing or another.

As far as being a losing battle....when was the last time we had a Presidential election between two strong candidates? I can't remember one...and I've been voting since 1988.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

It's been a losing battle for a while. I fully agree with that.

I personally know many republicans that don't like Romney. Sure Romney might have had 50% of the vote in the primaries overall. But what about all the people that wanted someone else? Ron Paul getting the least amount of support I don't think this changes my comment about many republicans not liking Mitt Romney. Even if they support Paul over Romney this doesn't change the fact that these Paul supporters are indeed republicans.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33472) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Perhaps the Paul supporters will seriously weaken mittens support on election day with write in votes.

Whatever works - we do not want mittens in office.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

So will Gary Johnson. He's the libertarian candidate and he will be the only 3rd option that will be on every ballot in the USA.

Like I've said many times, Obama has this election in the bag. Due to the current circumstances around the 2012 election I don't see Romney winning.

But hey crazier things have happened. Like when Bush became president after losing the vote of the people.

Something needs to be done about the incumbent issue. It wasn't fair for repubs in 2004 and it's not fair for dems in 20012.

"Obama is on the ballot in all states, where he is running mostly unopposed."

Even though the primaries tend to be whoever spends the most money.

Damn the system is fucked. Money in politics needs to GO

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33472) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Did you see my update on move to amend?

I believe we will need to do similar things the same way to address other issues until we can get some proper representation happening.

[-] 2 points by brightonsage (4494) 5 years ago

Maybe more unusual, but not crazier.

[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 5 years ago

That isn't such a big deal, I know a lot of registered democrats that aren't Obama supporters. Actually, that is a good thing. That means people aren't just voting along party lines.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

No one likes that clown. Its just more proof that this whole thing is bullshit, that Obama is the perfect face for international expansion, and that when people just sit by and let their choices be preselected for them....they end up with pathetic losers, not leaders.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8733) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

lot of people choose Obama in 08, we can make choices but not if we don't

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

I know, I was one of em. But we have to remember, he was preselected before he was placed in front of us.

The Who "We Won't Get Fooled Again".. comes to mind..

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8733) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

I preselected Hilary

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

Horatio Caine!

To this day I do not understand why in the 2008 primaries, democrats supported pro-patriot act and pro-war candidates like Obama over the only guy on the ballot that tried to impeach Bush. His name is Dennis Kucinich. He 100% supports OWS and he thinks peace is a better option than spending trillions on wars. He also voted no on the TARP bailouts and said they were driven by fear and not fact. He then compared Congress to a board of directors meeting for Goldman Sachs.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8733) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

maybe you didn't do enough to convince them

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

People just need to look into voting records instead of talking points.

Personally this fucked system of media telling me who is viable and corporations flooding my tv with political advertisements doesn't work on me. So why is it working on others?

Why are so many blinded by propaganda? I've never understood this.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago
[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33472) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

I believe it has much to do with living conditions, intelligence and with interest. I also believe it has to do with personal courage.

Many will buy a lie of peace and harmony - just because they do not want to see the threats/monsters the fragility of their position in life.

This is also why leaders are fewer in any population.

Well IMO anyway.

[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 5 years ago

I think it is interesting that you ask why so many people are blinded by propaganda, yet your original post is just that. Your 'headline' and OP are both true statements, yet they are worded in such a way to infer that it everyday, mainstream type republican delegates that are trying to separate themselves from Romney, when in fact it is the RonPaulians. If someone doesn't read the article, they walk away thinking this is a big deal, like some sort of coup is forming the 'R's. That is a type of propaganda and it is perpetuated by you, the media and both parties. Give people enough truth to make them think something else.

I ALWAYS follow the links and read the stories before I post - but some people are too lazy to educate themselves. THAT is why people are so susceptible to propaganda. Don't bitch about it when you are part of the problem.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago

lasted I heard ron threw his support to Romney

[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 5 years ago

That is just a political move, they have to show party unity.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago

is that what these delegates are challenging ?

[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 5 years ago

No, they want to cast their vote for Paul at the Republican National Convention even though the voters in the respective districts selected Romney. That would really suck for the citizens that they represent. The whole convention thing is kind of a screwy process anyway. I don't even know why they have them. They should set the primaries all on one day, and then whoever wins is the candidate.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago

it's a parade for publicity

[-] -1 points by vvv0630 (-63) 5 years ago

You are methodically dumbing down this forum and thereby any respect others might give it, MattLHolck. If you are being paid to do so, you will no doubt continue. If you are not, please post your moronic one-liners elsewhere. Thanks.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

The process is indeed fucked. The people's vote should be the only thing that matters. Even if their choice is a tool like Romney.

[-] 1 points by friendlyopposition (574) 5 years ago

Not to mention the RIDICULOUS amount of money that is wasted on this 4 day party...

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

That was Rand Paul. Not Ron

[-] 1 points by LeoYo (5909) 5 years ago

Are they blinded by propoganda? Either voters possess the will to vote as they truly choose or they're easily manipulated in which case they shouldn't be voting at all. I choose to give them the benefit of the doubt which means I don't give them any credit for the choices they make. If people aren't in the habit of researching to make the best choices in their personal lives, there's no reason to believe they'd be any more prone to doing so with their political choices.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

It all boils down to soundbytes and clever marketting.

Oh, and the fact that most people these days have the attention span of a gnat, and a personal responsibility factor of minus one.

Just as long as we have someone else to blame for our woes, we feel justified in our armchair quarterbacking, with hindsight.

That's why, given the choice, most people don't vote.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

I think there was support for Kucinich, but I think the primaries are about as real as a cartoon.