Forum Post: Goodbye Party Thread
Posted 11 years ago on Nov. 20, 2012, 7:54 p.m. EST by GirlFriday
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Get the Fuck Out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bhNOalTr0M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMdmWjtDRPE
Another classic scene!!
cool. "get back to work, girls!" roll it up, light it up https://twitter.com/IDFSpokesperson/status/269419585101512704
That's funny. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5iA4Zupek ~ A toast for the Douchebags!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUxJK6_QzAU ~ Can't get Enough of This!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzNjmIWbns4 ~ ...I could be right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU6ZTtb4VbE ~ ...we say hell no...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpZhZAr1cQU ~ Another fking round!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3P_Lswdf8A ~ the wishing well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wewMG7M2go4&list=AL94UKMTqg-9DyaUGiaeiHUqdHmGn4j4o_&index=7 ~ not two, one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9taYytjDgeg&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CNwHZ8-SNFEIYDbEMJIEi1&index=2 ~ lauv hoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9taYytjDgeg&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CNwHZ8-SNFEIYDbEMJIEi1&index=2 ~ wow
Got up to PIL. (One of my favs)
Listen to the rest later.
"Anger is an energy"! JL
http://occupywallst.org/forum/people-please-senselessness-becomes-action-ban-eas/
Here's one just got from FB, think you'll like it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76ohvqwsNkk&feature=youtu.be
sadly "party" crap will continue
as long as the radicals refuse to break their grover pledge
as long as the radicals have the filibuster in the Senate
as long as the radicals have control of the House
as long as voter suppression is drowning democracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4egb2gpIg4
And one must not forget - closing time.
Such a late goodbye?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLn4_Wz3Tc0
And I have this to add to that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50TEM8OPFcY
You are a such a nut.
Could be... but you weren't there when VQ was stalking me with his Dems are God bs. And having me banned, repeatedly.
No, but I was there when I went round with him a couple times. I still feel that it is imperative to look exactly at an issue and if the blame falls on one side or the other or any lobbying groups-fess up, get it over with and move on. Denial creates way more drama then it is worth.
Call me slow, but what the hell are you guys talking about? Did V leave or something? Great YT clips, by the way.
No, RedDragon made a thread about leaving. I said that I would throw him a going away party and this is it.
Ah, thanks for clarifying. I do love your sarcasm, btw.
This party is just a train wreck waiting to happen. And I'm not saying that as a Tea Partyer, a Conservative, or a Republican. I'm saying that as an American. And VQ is just another party hack.
I know VQ - he is NOT a party hack - just because he supports his position
you do to - as do I
he's a party hack.
But from my talks with Red D... he seems the same as well. My very first encounter he accused me of being an Obama supporter... which had nothing to do with my comment. Which is hilarious because VQ always calls me a republican. - Anyone spending their time doing that are party hacks.
He's about hackie and wackie as they come...
I've gone round with V a couple times.
I believe just about everybody has. The other difficulty I've had is that anyone who even hints at "traditional" here is immediately labeled a racist. This seems to be a central theme of the Left and its party. I was told that I was expected to be "Pro Black" or in other words anti-white. Personally I don't think the interests of Occupy moving forward will be well served as a brown-only organization.
"was told that I was expected to be "Pro Black""
Who TOLD you that & when & how ?
Shubabel... but this seems to be a common theme of the Left.
This is GirlFriday:
There is obvious emphasis here. I see no reason to empower black over white with our tax dollars. But quite obviously some people do and that is the very reason Obamacare was such a disaster; it sought to favor brown over white. And it does.
Every now and again, I will hit the race threads. Most of the time, you cannot tell if someone created a character to antagonize the situation.
I don't think "Pro Black" is anti-white. No one is to choose one over the other. I don't think that has ever been an issue. It has never been a brown-only organization. When we begin to look at issues such as ..........education, health care, and housing then we are dealing with people of color and white people too.
If I am "Pro Black" can I also be "Pro White"? How do I favor one without disfavoring the other?
If I said I was "Pro White," you would label me anti-black; in fact, you'd label me a racist and possibly even a supremest.
We can't use the word "race" to define every political position.
Yes, you can be both. You aren't favoring one over the other. It isn't a contest. We have one race. The human race. We have different cultures, ethnicities, and different worldviews. The main one that was dominant in the US was and still is the white race. But, here is the catch..........you could never be white enough and you are by and large looking at class status here.
How we view race today was intentionally created in the Massachusetts colony. Couldn't enslave white people because they all look alike. Couldn't enslave Native Americans because they know the landscape too well and can escape. Bingo, let's legalize slavery and Black people win. Now, let us justify and rationalize the law and then spend hundreds of years trying to repair the damage and deal with the repercussions.
Can I be both at the same time? I mean, what we're talking about here is opportunity. How do we grant one job to two people? At some point we must favor one over the other.
I agree with you that race was contrived; there is no doubt about that. The feelings on the indigenous date to Queen Isabella as well as this preference for Africans. But in my mind this preference was more economic than sentimental. Not only did the Natives of the Islands run away they were also physically weaker and far less skilled; there is also the issue of trade.
But how we look at race today has far more to do with environment than the prejudice of ancestors. You mention majorities and minorities but it really makes no difference to us; if this is a reference to some future reversal of prejudice, racism, or oppression, in a brown America, we are not intimidated. We have fought for a place in this world for over 20,000 years; not all have survived that struggle, many did not, but it's the way of mankind and we readily accept that in the very same manner that the Native American did.
Have you ever wondered why the African never voluntarily left Africa?
Can I be both at the same time? I mean, what we're talking about here is opportunity. How do we grant one job to two people? At some point we must favor one over the other.
I give you one shot to lay that argument out.
How we look at race today is increasingly dictated by those who dominate the media and feed into the disenfranchised white folk theme. That said, there is a polar opposite. Quickest example: NRA uses gun control/right propaganda in the black community as a deliberate attempt to oppress.
Why would you be intimidated? See, I don't get that. Why do you feel so threatened?
Actually, there were Africans that voluntarily left Africa.
I think I may have read something into your words that simply isn't there. But even so I would like to try and address your question.
But before I do... two minor comments:
There is a flip side to this divide created by skin color that allows enslavement and that is that it also allowed those purchased whites to be historically labeled as "servants." I think this modern conceptualization of "servant" enters the vernacular about the first quarter of the 1800s... by the early 1800s, most slaves of the northeast had been recorded as emancipated in town records and the "servants" were primarily domestics who were more often immigrating Irish, Swedish, etc. females. In other words, one could only be a "slave" if one was black because only black enslavement could be justified amongst a theoretically religiously charitable people, and it was a stretch to even do that - everybody else that was contractually owned, more often indefinitely, was but a servant. Of course there are other types of indenture - guardianship, educational, etc - but I am speaking of owned labor. The "slave" created the "servant."
In reference to Africa, I have never fully accepted science's explanation. I have always been of the impression that the so-called Caucasian wandered out of Africa in some more archaic form, prior to cognitive development. I say this because I don't think race is so much a recreation as it is a creation; the very fact that evolution finds it necessary to physiologically acclimatize us, in this creation of physical characteristics that we have labeled "races," points to lack of full rational or cognitive ability at the time of African emigration. From Africa on, my minor theory takes on more abstract form in that I see us as picking up some really hot looking Asian babes and a couple of Neanderthals and moving more or less northwest. And, well, as it turns out my theory was only partially correct - they didn't move north, they moved west and then north.
These physiological differences, physical characteristics, of those of the northwest were discussed even by those such as Tacitus tens of thousands of years later. And Tacitus we assume was "Caucasian."
You would say, though, well what is the point? The point is that mutations of some 60,000 plus years ago that point to an after-Africa, Asian and Neanderthal input, are also indicative of some earlier out of Africa migration of other hominids or other branches of the Adam hominid. The question becomes, why did some leave while others remained? And I don't think this is just a case of wanderlust; I think they may have been competing even then. And it seems some went to extremes to remove themselves while others remained behind. Have we always been at odds?
Race... in my mind is a male issue and not a female issue. The earliest miscegenation laws in this country were directed at the white female servant who mated with the male African slave; it does not appear there were any laws to seriously inhibit the activities of white males. In fact, several travelers to Jefferson's Monticello commented on the prevailing whiteness of his slaves after some four and five generations of miscegenation. Of course, this a predominantly white paternal population but the point is only the behavior of white females was actively restrained; they were not opposed to miscegenation, only the loss of their women.
Race is a male issue because we are discussing a pecking order mentality; this pecking order exists in all male interaction; it exists in the classroom and on the playground when we are children and it follows us throughout our adult lives - there is a pecking order, I'm quite certain, at this very moment within the core of Occupy. Because it's how males interact. It's a triangular exchange - there is a point man supported by a number three man who questions, inputs, interjects and injects, a number two man who serves to judge, and dominant point who grants final approbation. Together they are an alliance intent on dominance that then seeks to grow a political force. And they do.
Males are only capable of tolerance to the point it serves us; when tolerance threatens to relegate us to subjugation, we strike back in an effort to retain that dominance.
And when we meet face to face with those who seek to promote their own rather lend us their support, we assign them a "foe" status. And you can say it's all bullshit and that I am a radical racist supremest but the truth is that African males see us in the very same light. And the African is the only "race" that has ever presented us with significant challenge due to both his physical prowess and intellect.
And that's enough of that...
While I differ in opinion here and there in the above, I am not seeing it as a radical racist supremist rant.
Dylan and Morrison in 1998 Knocking on Heaven's door
A rare moment captured in time.
Jerry Garcia Thanksgiving jam
Nobody loves you, when you’re down and out
Merry Xmas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4Uu0OlmTg
and another just for the Fish of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuUBCF3KKxc
In Memory of Lee Dorman and Iron Butterfly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5MbsvzPCm8 ~ blame it on yourself!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZcC5jh7XQ
I'll be playing God and you can be my bitch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7vkS9P8GYY
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Ray was a damn Republican.
They still looked good on Letterman. Still hurt from Bonham goodbye party.
Roy was, too.
One winter stuck in CO with that tape is enough.
OK, now I get it.
Did I scare you off?
Anytime you are ready.
You got a point?
I wasn't finished....
Well, when you get around to figuring out what the hell your point was............lemme know.
Muzic dorks never ever ever finish...
Ok, chicken shit.
it seems more apt than you know and for reasons probably unrelated. The entire thing seems just like one big rambling now. The chattering class I heard it called once on MSM. I think not voting is the only way to send the message that things are fucked. So I won't vote and hope others kick the habit too. Yes, in not making a choice I am actually making a clear choice to send a message of disapproval. I hope others will see the light and stop voting. Anything more is over the top and anything less is complicity.
I really don't agree. I think going out and voting 3rd party makes a stronger statement. Just my humble opinion, though. My vote for Andrew Horning helped defeat Richard Murdouck here in Indiana.
So............will you be leaving as well?
questions like that are strange to me. I'm not actually in the forum. Not physically collocated with the data. But I am "here" right? who knows, it's a question that seems to demand something absolute. I may feel like not posting, even for a while. Or I may feel like rambling on :D
Yeah, I just drop in on occasion, and if I feel strongly enough about an issue that hasn't been done to death already, I'll toss in my two cents worth.
Apart from the Israel thing, and some work in NYC, we seem to be going over old ground a fair bit.
we seem to be going over old ground a fair bit.
No lie.
Then let's dig deeper.
Let's roll, Daddy-O.
Your smallest, humblest, most insignificant leetle wish is my command, Friday.
lol. If we are going to do all this, then by god let's cut the shit and emotional drama down. I don't want to listen to someone pontificate. I don't want to go through one more round of which economic system is better or which political ideology is better. I don't want to hear anymore third party crap.
Identify the problem, locate the law, address the limitations through what can and cannot be achieved, revise the law, present, Look for common ground. That's it.
THANK YOU. Enough BS - issues - good? - Bad? What to do about it. Simple.
Yep.
Can you let everyone else in on the secret? I have not had much luck so far.
lol, they get it.
OK - you sure? I mean there are so many distractions thrown-up.
Maybe open online forum is not a perfect format to
Identify the problem, locate the law, address the limitations through what can and cannot be achieved, revise the law, present, Look for common ground. That's it.
As there will be infinite views on nature of problem, ability of a law to address the problem. Similar to an open GA, not a very direct method. People get off topic, enjoy the squabbles or stirring the fire.
Maybe if a bill is in a "draft or final product, people could give feedback on topic.
Possibly Sanders and Warren may have the bills ready to go. How can we support, or together phone or write to opponents of the proposed progressive legislation.
Not that I am disagreeing with these ideas of staying on topic and productive.
And continue to speak more directly with our representatives for these issues.
If we have petitions for bills we can take to our neighbors, or to malls, and get signatures and share messaging .
Yep. That's why they keep a comin'.
One question; are 51% of US people interested in direct democracy?
Damn, took the words slap out'my mouth.
Gidgette?
I have no idea where that came from. None. Could very well be Gidgette.
Daddy-O? Gidgette & Moondoggy? Back in the way back 50's?
Was Sandra Dee or Sally Field the first Gidget?
Both one in the movies - Sandra and one on the "toned down" ( can you dig it ? ) TV - Sally. So actually Sandra was "the" 1st.
We watched all those movies. The Aussie movie industry was a shed in someone's backyard.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CNPZ0JYfo5Y/SKGp4lpHy4I/AAAAAAAACQk/0Gq05Q7BKsc/s400/DeborahGidget.jpg
aAHhahaha - Holy Big Breaker Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-] 1 points by Builder (3614) 3 minutes ago
I kinda like the Adam West version.
Just like I've gone back to the longboard, after struggling for years to paddle the thin thrusters.
The big wave riders can have it to themselves. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
Well Now - that's a whole different kettle of fish now init?
Like comparing Adam West as Batman to the modern day version of the Dark Knight.
[-] 1 points by Builder (3608) 3 minutes ago
The Aussies have kinda caught up, but surf films are serious biz these days.
Here's a snippet of Tim's latest. http://youtu.be/HCNMif2xJ5c ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
I kinda like the Adam West version.
Just like I've gone back to the longboard, after struggling for years to paddle the thin thrusters.
The big wave riders can have it to themselves.
ahHAhaha - weren't they all? For kids I mean. Memories so beautiful and yet ....
The Aussies have kinda caught up, but surf films are serious biz these days.
Here's a snippet of Tim's latest. http://youtu.be/HCNMif2xJ5c
Yeah, but I have only seen maybe half of a Gidgette movie in my entire life.
I can understand that - hard to watch more then 5 minutes - unless you are home sick lying on the couch and do not want to get up and switch the channel.
I am so glad you said that. I didn't want to come out and say it but, yeah, I would have to be that sick.
A lot of that old stuff - goin back to the black and white era - is much better then what is put out today.
[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (10231) 10 minutes ago
I still will watch Bonanza and all that. Old Tuscon Studios is now a major attraction and there are many other films that were shot in other areas of Arizona. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
In part, it really depends on who is writing and directing. I try to get into the silent films but I can't. When you start looking at the films from the Hayes Code and after you get these little hints as to what the characters really are and what they are discussing without coming out to say it. They used to have to memorize their lines and not work with each other at all before a shoot because there wasn't enough money for rehearsing. Now, they have more time to rehearse with each other.
Ms Kitty? Laura?
[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (10211) 1 minute ago
I'm way more Mary Tyler Moore or any of the old western shows. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
I still will watch Bonanza and all that. Old Tuscon Studios is now a major attraction and there are many other films that were shot in other areas of Arizona.
LOL - so felt all of the kids those shows were targeted at.
I'm way more Mary Tyler Moore or any of the old western shows.
I don't know if that question has ever been put to the Public.
[-] 1 points by Builder (3622) 9 hours ago
One question; are 51% of US people interested in direct democracy? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
I just don't see any consideration from politicians on either side, or The People in general about the root causes, let alone plausible solutions. I'm starting to feel like a Florida ballot chad or someone in a flash mob, dancing out of time after everyone else has dispersed.
With a controlled media, that would be the impression most people are getting.
It's a long hard road, and it takes patience and vision and perseverance to make a difference.
These characteristics have been discouraged, if not denied a place in our current history, Richard.
Think about what it's like for us in Australia. Our main topic for political discussion is "where are we gonna put all these asylum seekers that keep arriving on boats, planes and in cargo ships?".
http://imgur.com/gallery/Lwkd1
Really hate to see you go. Are you taking zenNutCase with you??
I'm not going anywhere, sweet pea.
Glad to hear it GF, because I thought you were. And I agree with you that we need to "get back...get back...get back to where you once belonged". I am the first to admit to getting off on all kinds of crazy tangents instead of working the issues, bringing up the current law like you said, identifying courses of action, etc. I do remember when that was going on a lot more on this forum. It just seems like there are a lot more stupid troll battles going on now and, for whatever reason, more distractions. We need to get back to a core focus, a core strategy, a core set of topics that should always remain the heart and soul of Occupy.