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Forum Post: God Hates the Common Good!

Posted 5 years ago on Sept. 21, 2015, 9:27 a.m. EST by agkaiser (2460) from Fredericksburg, TX
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Imagine a world in which everyone profits from real estate and investments and no one must work for another. In that world we're all rich. No one labors. No one mines, farms, manufactures, practices medicine, drives trucks or does anything but live off capital of one sort or another.

That world with out work is obviously impossible for all of us. It's only possible for our employers. It's no matter that we believe we have opportunity, if we will but take it, to rise to the level of the successful people we work for. It's impossible for all of us to do that. If we did, we'd be extinct due to mass starvation in a very short time.

So why do we put up with the relatively few who do no work themselves and for whom we work? Is it because their forbears had excessive amounts of property? Did they find a way in their own lifetimes to profit from the work of enough of us so they didn't have to work themselves?

Why aren't you offended by those whose holdings force most of us to work for them while allowing them to do no real work themselves? Are they really the only kind of person intelligent enough to organize us to do the things we must do to live?

That must be it. We're morons who can't live without someone to tell us what to do and take the profit from our work. No one would do that for us if they couldn't take the increases from our works for themselves.

That's what I infer that we must believe. You must give up the produce of your hard work to be allowed to live and work in the owners' world. There is no other way. We must cooperate to make the owners richer, because we can't cooperate to enrich ourselves by enriching our community. All riches must go to the few individuals who own us and everything else. That's what God intended for the chosen few. God hates the common good.



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[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 4 years ago

Coops are easy to assemble, and very difficult to run.

I suggest everyone that hates capitalism dives into the coop pool with some others for a while. Yes, competing against the multinationals is a bitch, but this is more for the organizing experience to learn what it takes.

Quite honestly, the overwhelming vast majority of people have no desire to put themselves through that.

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 5 years ago

"we can't cooperate to enrich ourselves by enriching our community."

Unfortunately there is a lot of truth to that.

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 5 years ago

There are many people who are rich enough never needing to work for a living again who still work diligently for themselves in service to others.

I have enough faith in human nature that even when everyone is rich, there will still be enough of us who will work to prevent total economic collapse for all. We would simply switch from working for needs to working for wants - No big deal really.

Look at Norway, for example, on average, every Norwegian is a millionaire in their own currency. I see NO economic doom and gloom there.

I do see a lot of daylight doom and gloom there but I think most people would not mind that if they get to live with trust funds backing them even with Martian daylight lighting.

[-] 5 points by agkaiser (2460) from Fredericksburg, TX 5 years ago

The problem of making money from money is the same problem as creating a perpetual motion machine. Finance creates no material product but only adds to the cost of real production. It's parasitic and threatens survival. It's thermodynamically unsustainable. Only [conservative/libertarian] neo liberals and their dupes could fool themselves into believing otherwise. This isn't rocket science. Why is it so hard for otherwise intelligent people?

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago


the people want a common credit to exchange for goods and services

a control money keeps trucks delivering and distributing food ?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 5 years ago

I have a hypothesis. High school trigonometry was not taught well to the masses so they could not grasp the distinction between a tangent (income) and a secant (wealth). Don't ever invest in anything intangible such as stocks and bonds till you have figured this out.

I thought it was an oversight but knowing that even eelites' heirs being groomed did not understand, I came to suspect that it is really a conspiracy.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

i think its more dependent on the property owners

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 5 years ago

There is absolutely no problem if property owners do not get off of the exponential rocket rise in the market prices of their properties by simply letting their gains stay as paper profits. Booms or busts depend far more on the money creators' mind game.

Newly created money is interchangeable with old money. Only the money creators can keep track of how much they have created. Others are often fooled. Fools are our Patriots as they bail out our governments with their follies. Three cheers for fools, please!

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 5 years ago

They did not fool themselves. They made up the crapola (CRanberry APple granOLA) to feed the masses, imitating Jesus's feeding the five thousands. That was Charity, laudable even in Islam.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 5 years ago

Another thing to remind Christians is that Jesus was livid driving out the money changers from His Father's house, the temple. It was just about the only time when Jesus was violent.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 5 years ago

Read your Bible - does the book of Genesis say, " In the beginning, God created Money?" It did say that God said, "Let there be light!" and there was light. In His light, we are ALL trust fund babies.

Every contemplation and investigation into light led us to a new scientific era. The equation E=c squared m tells us that we are all rich beyond our wildest dreams. Read the parable of the Prodigal Son and you may understand.

Our problems are man-made because God so loves freedom that He also planted the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil beside the Tree of Life so Adam and Eve may be free to choose. They did, so the man-made era, Anthropocene, began.

E=c squared m is the promise. We just need to see the light to discover our trust funds. We can use E to kill or heal or both. It is freedom. The black globe with golden markings situated at the center of the fountain in between the twin towers of WTC site might well have symbolized a spherical plutonium nuclear bomb.

[-] 2 points by agkaiser (2460) from Fredericksburg, TX 5 years ago

eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil was seeing the light. Then your schizo god punished us for doing what he suggested. Like Abraham with Isaac, god hallucinates and threatens and hallucinates and backs off. You can reverse the order and it's still true. The only thing I know about god is that he's a crazy asshole!

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 5 years ago

God did not suggest that Adam and Eve should eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. In fact, God explicitly warned them not to. God is Love, Freedom, and Justice. We consider these as virtuous but they are inherently incompatible so God vacillates the best He could.

I am sure that you would understand God's predicaments well if you had been a parent dealing with rule-breaking teenage offspring. "I shall nearly wipe them completely off of the face of the Earth. Drown them!" "Oh, I must control my temper and remind myself never to go too far, so I put my colorful rainbow in the sky to remind myself not to deluge again." Are most parents schizophrenic? Probably!

About God's being a crazy asshole, you may well be correct. I could relate to that very well in my teen years. Perhaps you could, too. The cosmological theory of the Big Bang can explain so much about the present state of our universe if it all started with a Big Bang from the crazy asshole.

[-] 2 points by agkaiser (2460) from Fredericksburg, TX 5 years ago

you speak as if the biblical god actually exists and is not just the ravings of Abraham and other ancient psychopaths, who use the concept to justify their own dark companion spirits and crimes against family and humanity.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 5 years ago

My field-theoretical definition of existence is: Fluxes of information through an enclosing closed surface through all time. The biblical Lord God exists according to this definition. What is actually inside of the surface has no bearings whatsoever and is absolutely IRRELEVANT to the question of existence.

I read His words from the Bible. There is an enclosing closed surface so there are fluxes of information through the surface for all time, thus God exists. He could well be like what you had stated but that is absolutely IRRELEVANT to the question of existence.

[-] 2 points by agkaiser (2460) from Fredericksburg, TX 5 years ago

from the preface:

Caliban and the Witch presents the main themes of a research project on women in the "transition" from feudalism to capitalism that I began in the mid-1970s, in collaboration with an Italian feminist, Leopoldina Fortunati. Its first results appeared in a hook that we published in Italy in 1984: II Grallde Caliballo. Storial del (Corpo social ribelle lIella prima jase del Capitale (Milano: Franco Angeli) [The Great Caliban. History of the Rebel Body in the First Phase of Capitalism).


Primitive Accumulation I always like to think of “primitive accumulation” as an example of very dry humor; an armed gentleman appears in a Mad Max-like technical, primitively accumulates your harvest, and thirty years later you’re a peasant and they’re a Lord (see under “Ceremony, Aquatic, Farcical”). Too simple, I know, but primitive, very primitive. Then again, the process I just described is rather like law enforcement for profit in Ferguson, isn’t it? Which suggests that primitive accumulation hasn’t just occurred in the past, as part of some sort of “take off,” but continues to occur to this very day. From the Preface (pages 11-12): NC Strether


[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 5 years ago

There certainly seems to be good correlations between matriarchy and the well-being of a country. Perhaps the women understand the concept of a trust fund better than the men who should fight and f#ck less and suckle more. Grow breasts like good roosters - it doesn't suck! Cockdoodledo!!

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

a human caste system can't be determined by a difference in ability

we are all alike in ability give or take