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Forum Post: GOAL:

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 3, 2011, 6:56 p.m. EST by Vonpfahl (2)
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To stop the rich who do not believe in giving back a just share of what they receive from business enterprise run from or iand n this country, and have laws that assures people healthcare and social security before they buy a $100,000.00 car or a$10,000,000.00 home. No where in the Constution does it say that a company is a person but the rich Koch brothers have paid to put jurists in place to let them control what much of Americans can hear. laws must be put in place that bring jobs Bach hear that NAFTA allowed CEOs to send them to china.



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[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

this is not against the "rich" people. Its FOR them ALSO. This is against an abusive and d evolutionary and self destructive SYSTEM, which victimizes even the top one percent who THINK it benefits them. They are COVICTIMS. Whether they understand that or not- and our GOAL must include a win/ win outcome WITH them, not AGAINST them.

[-] 2 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 12 years ago

Well said there greed is costing the corporation money too.... I'm not really jealous of them. I just want a normal middle income job, my family, and health care. I'm college educated driving a truck for a living spending two weeks away from my family at a time. I'm fed up I just want a normal job like everyone. No handout. Is that too much ??

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

the end goal product should be that every small community takes care of its own. Any federal system is a problem definition of something requiring more serious attention to solve. long term social programs managed by nation sized meta entities is a disaster not only socially and civilly but to the people who get third rate borg social services. A well functioning system does not need a welfare system, it only has a highly evolved net which catches people and only involves less than one percent of the population at any given time, not punishing but rehabing and educating folks. Until such time as that end goal is achieved, no hand outs is a paradox... you have to spend time and thus money in order to fix the problems till their fixed past needing time or money.

[-] 1 points by revg33k (429) from Woodstock, IL 12 years ago

no it is not too much, and it should never be.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

thats not quite there yet. to stop the system of corporate oligarchy itself, and adjust back down into a rooted and civil exploration as a civilization based in capitalism and democracy, with democracy leading the way, capitalism taking a strong back seat, and corporate oligarchy being removed from power completely; preferably with a new third party using our democratic systems to completely take back power legally and then change everything fundamentally. We need a free market system not a slave market system and we need genuine democracy not a fascist fraud pretending to be democracy and capitalism and using those ideologies as carrots in front of competing matrix pwn mobs.

[-] 1 points by PlayingFair (1) 12 years ago

I agree, It is greedy and 'unpatriotic' to not want to give back. A lot of these corporations only have allegiance to $, profit, and not their country, or any ethics. And they think they can get away with anything, any 'take-take' as long as they are devious, and 'lawyered-up', but if someone steals a loaf of bread, they can go to jail. This is just wrong.

[-] 1 points by Vonpfahl (2) 12 years ago

it seems to me that we all may be able to agree that our country needs justice in being able to be hear not just the rich who can afford to buy media. Then we have to reverse laws that move most of our manufacturing jobs over seas. finally we have to make sure that everyone can vote and not be block by lack of money or politacal maneuvering.