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Forum Post: Globalization and out sourcing is the problem

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 28, 2011, 11:22 p.m. EST by vats (107)
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As soon as America, opened its border and globalization was introduced 20 years, all the problem with economy started,. Why should our economy be linked to other countries economy and work out sourced? why American salary be compared to person in third world countries like india, uganda or nigeria? Globalization has brought only problem and not improved American life style. So better to make American economy totally isolated from the world as it was in the Golden years 20 years before.

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[-] 3 points by looselyhuman (3117) 13 years ago

Globalization is one (very big) part of it, but that's just one aspect of the neoliberalism that has dominated our public sphere (and the world's) for 30-40 years. Check out this thread for more: http://occupywallst.org/forum/30-fucking-years/

[-] 2 points by HitGirl (2263) 12 years ago

It's true. The .01% want it all. Outsourcing is just a tactic to rob We the People of the ability to impose regulations to keep our air, our waters, our food safe and uncontaminated. Don't even call it outsourcing. Call it blackmail: "No jobs 'till you ditch the regulations and work for slave wages." They are trying to silence the voice of We the People and it's time we called this what it is. It is un-American and the worst kind of class warfare!

[-] 1 points by Renaye (522) 12 years ago

Well said! Next step is to expose the globalist .01% by name. Most of them are on this cease and desist order found at the bottom of this link;

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1026-financial-tyranny-final?start=2

The undersigned therefore issue this Cease and Desist Order which is to serve as legal notification to the following Parties whom the undersigned deem to have acted in Bad Faith, who may not use, or allow use of, or claim title, or have right or control of all and or any assets, or derivatives thereof, in the attached list of funds and assets, Marked “Annex A” until they provide proof of just account and stewardship to the undersigned -- and until and unless the undersigned issue, on a case by case, transaction by transaction basis, a certificate of allowance for the use thereof, such allowance to be given in writing under their hands only in response to a request by a Government Ministry of Finance.

This Cease and Desist Order is issued and effective from this 5th Day of January 2012 to all Parties specifically nominated and stated below:

  • ACKERMANN, Josef / DEUTSCHE BANK
  • BAN Ki-MOON, Secretary-General United Nations
  • BANK FOR INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS (BIS)
  • BARCLAYS GROUP, London and Worldwide.
  • BAROSSO, José Manuel D., President of the European Commission
  • BERLUSCONI, Sylvio, former Prime Minister of Italy
  • BERNANKE, Ben S., Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
  • BLAIR, Tony A.C.L., former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
  • BLANKFEIN, Lloyd C. / GOLDMAN SACHS
  • BUSH Sr., George H.W., 41st President of the United States of America
  • BUSH Jr., George W., 43rd President of the United States of America
  • CAMERON, David W.D., Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
  • CLINTON, Hillary D.R., United States Secretary of State
  • CREDIT SUISSE (CS)
  • DAVIGNON, Étienne F.J., former vice-president European Commission
  • DIMON, James / JP MORGAN
  • DRAGHI, Mario, President of the European Central Bank (/ex-GOLDMAN SACHS)
  • EMANUEL, Rahm I., Mayor of Chicago
  • FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM and all CENTRAL BANKS
  • GEITHNER, Timothy F., United States Secretary of the Treasury
  • GREENSPAN, Alan, 13th Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
  • HSBC GROUP
  • INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND (IMF)
  • KISSINGER, Henry A.
  • MONTI, Mario, Prime Minister of Italy (/ex-GOLDMAN SACHS)
  • NETANYAHU, Benjamin “Bibi”, Prime Minister of Israel
  • PAPADEMOS, Lucas, Prime Minister of Greece (/ex-GOLDMAN SACHS)
  • PAULSON, Henry “Hank” M., former United States Secretary of the Treasury (74th)
  • QUEEN ELIZABETH II. / HOUSE of WINDSOR, The United Kingdom & Commonwealth
  • QUEEN BEATRIX / HUIS van ORANJE, The Netherlands
  • ROCKEFELLER, David Sr.
  • ROCKEFELLER, John “Jay” D. IV
  • ROMNEY, W. Mitt
  • ROMPUY van, Herman A., President of the European Council
  • ROTHSCHILD de, Evelyn R.A.
  • ROTHSCHILD de, David M.
  • RUBIN, Robert E., former United States Secretary of the Treasury (70th)
  • SARKOZY, Nicolas, President French Republic
  • SOROS, George
  • SUMMERS, Lawrence “Larry” H., former Director of the National Economic Council (USA)
  • UNION BANK OF SWITZERLAND (UBS)
  • UNITED NATIONS
  • WOOTTON, David, Lord Mayor CITY OF LONDON
  • WORLD BANK (International Bank for Reconstruction and Development)

  • ALL GOVERNMENT offices in the United States, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, The Netherlands, Belgium, France and Japan;

  • ALL Commercial and Central BANKS at any location in the world, especially those with a registered office or branch in Switzerland, Hong Kong, Singapore, United States, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, Indonesia, Philippines, Japan;

  • ALL PERSONS, CORPORATIONS or other LEGAL ENTITIES attempting to use these accounts without the expressed written permission of the undersigned.

Remedy may be obtained by way of providing true account of the accounts set forth in “Annex A” hereto attached -- and/or obtaining the specific approval of the undersigned.

Signed : January 5, 2012

           …………………………                                                          …………………………
       Keith Francis SCOTT                                                                Neil Francis KEENAN    

A: List of funds and assets:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Reference: Family Guarantee Heritance. (His Heir Son from Grantee), Last Holder, Signatory, Ownership, PATN, 101371 / Position III.

For the Gold of Certificate Guarantee, Platinum of Certificate Guarantee, and Obligation of Certificate Guarantee, All the writing in the Black Book registered.

Guarantee Secret Code No. 754008979933/GIS/441. FC – 719098 - Union Bank of Switzerland – GTF – 91 – NVS

Reference Code No. M550–7825-9096- M5307-8259-069.34200313.

Statement Code No. VFT/2006747711/NG/4100001109/CFT/3218867571/CFT.6540078688

Heritance Code, No. 0067/D/4515/LM/45/A/00045/INDONESIA/0437756/DC/000045/A/00001

LAST HOLDER CODE, No. BR/274809/CH/48092/INDNESIA/4860/CH/4809/TS/780982 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[-] 1 points by HitGirl (2263) 12 years ago

That's a great link. Make it a post if you haven't already.

[-] 0 points by Renaye (522) 12 years ago

Did it, thanks!

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 12 years ago

The easiest way to understand the past is to take a snapshot of the present
and compare it to a snapshot of the past a skyrocketing stock market - substantially based on ousourcing rich/poor wealth disparity wage disparity union memberhip tax rates Walter Cronkite vs fox lies today

[-] 1 points by lkart5 (84) from Red Bank, NJ 13 years ago

Globalization is merely a symptom of the overall problem. Check this out. http://www.articlevmeeting.info/letter.pdf

Check out this post and act. http://occupywallst.org/forum/obama-ron-paul-or-anything-else-that-raises-your-i/

[-] 1 points by bloodflower (24) 13 years ago

Support fair trade not free trade

[-] 0 points by HitGirl (2263) 13 years ago

Don't forget that in our rush to "advance" these other countries we've only added to the environmental destruction and resource depletion. All in the name of capitalism.

[-] 1 points by vats (107) 13 years ago

made enemy nations rich

[-] 1 points by vats (107) 13 years ago

have a look at ur back yard

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 13 years ago

the idea that

there is need for every citizen to work 40 hour/week is the problem

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[-] 0 points by roloff (244) 13 years ago

I forgot 20 years ago was America's golden age. Why is that everyone has this recolection that sometime in the distant past things were perfect? It's a fucking recession going on, that isn't going to correct itself till the American people accept some hard facts first and we have a government that will follow through with it, obviously we don't have neither right now.

[-] 1 points by vats (107) 13 years ago

you cannot blame government, if American companies want to out source and be called global at the cost of losing American jobs, how ever government can impose tax on American companies out sourcing

[-] 0 points by gr57 (457) 13 years ago

Dude think of how high that tax would have to be to actually make them do that. Vienam:$2 a day, US:$8 an hour (not including benifits). 8 housr work day mean that its a 2:64 ratio. Could the government locically tax outsourcing compannies 32 times what they tax all American companies. I'm all for all American companies but I think we need to be realistic

[-] -1 points by roloff (244) 13 years ago

I would still outsource jobs. If I am paying a lazy union steelworker $25 an hour and then $30 an hour in benefits and I have to pay a hardworking vietnam employee $4 an hour and $5 an hour in benefits and pay shipping cost for transporting materials back to the US, then it is still profitable for this scenario, fuck the unions

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 12 years ago

After WW2, FDR had planned for the US to use it's tremendous manufacturing capacity to export machine tools to third world nations, allowing them to develop high wage industries.

Instead of lowering the US to third world standards, we should be elevating the third world to what once were US standards.

[-] 1 points by vats (107) 13 years ago

u call americans lazy?

[-] -1 points by gr57 (457) 13 years ago

I'm right with you man. I mean I would love to see American jobs but it aint going to happen

[-] 1 points by vats (107) 13 years ago

belive me it is very difficult to stop out sourcing all american companies control the congress and gov (influence) ,it is shameful tough these american companies do not care for americans

[-] -1 points by roloff (244) 13 years ago

Who ever said they were "American jobs" If I start a business and hire a programmer to assist me here in the US, and then decide I can hire someone in Vietnam to do the same work for cheaper, I am going to hire the guy in Vietnam. I just outsourced my company's job, not the governments, it is not your job or any other person's job, I say whose job it is. Companies outsource overseas because the cost of doing business with all the labor laws, regulation, and other government bullshit makes it more economical sensible to find workers overseas. Taxing companies for trying to be competetive would be counterproductive it would not create US jobs, it would stifle growth period. You probably have no clue what I am talking about generally anyone who talks about outsourcing is completely naiive about the subject, and just knows the word.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 13 years ago

OK, as a business owner you do whatever you can to fatten the bottom line. That is in your interest. But we, the sovereign people, and the government that will speak in our name (once we are successful) have a different interest. We want a middle class America, we want to preserve the American-way-of-life lifestyle. We don't want to become a third world country. We can and will do whatever is necessary to do these things. Your choice will be to conform or leave the country.

Businesses cannot be asked to base their decisions on patriotism and the value of the American-way-of-life. We the people need to make that position the profitable one, then businesses will follow.

[-] 1 points by vats (107) 13 years ago

so keep out sourcing because labor is cheap out side America, in return you lose more jobs in America and America will become third world country

[-] -1 points by roloff (244) 13 years ago

Really, have you ever been to a 3rd world country?

[-] 0 points by genanmer (822) 13 years ago

Don't forget technological unemployment.

We make too much of everything with machines. Either the machines need to go, the people need to go, or the monetary system needs to go.

Alternative: Resource Based Economics

[-] -1 points by gop2012 (24) 13 years ago

Obummer and his union buds is the problem

[-] -2 points by gop2012 (24) 13 years ago

Unions are also the problem

[-] 1 points by vats (107) 12 years ago

what can unions do? if america outsources all work