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Forum Post: Gingrich wins BIG in SCarolina. Poor like him

Posted 2 years ago on Jan. 21, 2012, 9:34 p.m. EST by FreeDiscussion1 (109)
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Results - CNN. Gingrich gets 40% of the vote by people making less than $50K. He also gets 40% of the votes by people making between $50K and 100K. 38% for those making $100K or more. 40% were people between 45-64 of age. 36% of his votes came from Urban areas. VERY COOL. The elite media has tried to do everything they can to kick him and he kicks THEIR liberal democrat butts. I hope he wins and cuts 20% from every federal budget.

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[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Newt Gingrich is a demagogue, nothing more. Smarten up, America.

[-] -1 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

What do you call Obama lol?

[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

A little less of a demagogue, LOL????

[-] -2 points by trailerParkTim (-13) 2 years ago

Go Newt!!! anyone but Obummer

[+] -4 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

The 99% like him, according to the VOTES.

[-] 4 points by RoughKarma (122) 2 years ago

If it were the general election, you might have a point. This being a primary, after your percentages you have to include "... of republicans voting in the primary. "

[-] -2 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

He got 40% of the $50K and under "republican" vote.

[-] 1 points by TedIV (40) 2 years ago

Majority of the south is Klan and republican..

[-] 1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

A majority of the north is NAACP which hates the "crackers". What is your point?

[-] 1 points by RoughKarma (122) 2 years ago

so if there are like 10 republicans under $50K ...

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Like I said, they need to smarten up. They don't realize they are listening to demagoguery.

[-] 1 points by TedIV (40) 2 years ago

no klangoguery..

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

The quiet kind.

[-] -2 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

yea - you like that word - "demagoguery". You think it makes you sound smart. What do you call it every time Obama opens his mouth?

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I won't argue with you there. It is the same thing really, they all spew stuff, but Obama doesn't come up with b.s. stories and twist words the way Gingrich does.

[-] -3 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

really? No you are right - he has Biden for that.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

You know, I've given this more thought. I think Obama is less of a demagogue because I think he really believes the stuff he says. He may not be able to accomplish much of it because in order to win elections he has to be a schmuck on the take like everyone else and he is working with an intransigent Congress that simply hates his Presidency (I won't say why because it's not pretty.)

Newt, on the other hand, I think says stuff that he doesn't really believe. That makes him more of a demagogue than Obama. He says he cares about poor children, but he doesn't really. He says he cares about this country, but he doesn't really. This is my take, my opinion. I'm not saying I'm right. It's just how I see it.

[-] 1 points by TedIV (40) 2 years ago

See what happens when people think they do get a clearer perspective.. Thats my Quarter ( I would say 2 cents but cause inlation, economy, it has gone up )

[-] 0 points by RoughKarma (122) 2 years ago

I don't give to the charities. I have not sheltered poor children in my home. Does this mean I don't care about them?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

No. Of course not, but how does this relate to what I said above? I'm not seeing it.

[-] 1 points by RoughKarma (122) 2 years ago

I don't give to charities because I'm unemployed. I don't shelter them in my home because I'm male and live alone and that's a recipe for disaster. I also don't support "no child left behind" but it doesn't mean I don't support quality education. Looking at actions and opinions on policy can't be spun out to what core beliefs are. Newt Gingrich cares about kids and his country, even if you think his actions and policies hurt them. I think it is the unwillingness of both sides to see that the other side is just like them, but different, that keeps anything from happening. "We" are not evil incarnate and neither are "They." If you step back and look at the posts here you will get a sense, I think, that there is too much "firing for effect" in the conversation. I picked yours because from what I've seen of your posts on other threads, you do try to respect your opponent. At some point we need to stop the name-calling and invective and have both sides work for the common good, realizing that perfection is unattainable and neither side will be completely happy.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I agree and I don't mind the opposition at all if they'll stick to the issues and not hurl insults. I don't agree with you about Newt Gingrich. He has a hateful rhetoric. I heard what he said about poor children. I saw him ridicule Juan Williams. I remember his hypocrisy back in the 1990's and am aware of his $1.6 million take from Fannie Mae. I don't care for his ways. I look into their hearts and I see a better heart beating in Barack Obama.

[-] 1 points by RoughKarma (122) 2 years ago

Fair enough.

[-] 1 points by TedIV (40) 2 years ago

They are evil cause that is the essence of evil everything U stated??? I do mind the opposition not appropriately representing this countries morals and values, and if that candidate is not a willing participant in the morals and values but yet somehow u say they will even though they do not or will not Feel they should? WTF!!! then what will they do when no one is looking or even in the backroom??? what do u think got us in this mess!!!! are u 2 kidding???

[-] 1 points by RoughKarma (122) 2 years ago

I have no idea what you just said.

[-] 1 points by TedIV (40) 2 years ago

Have u ever given to a charity? and shelter in ur your home? in one post it is a specified group POOR children and the other u left it out (but I am following a lot of these posts from the main posting all threw the comments).. what would make a poor child and a middle class or rich one be any different to help? and a recipe for disaster just about covers a variety of disasters. and u specified u are male and live alone are u not capable of being alone with a child in need or would u like Newt and the rest and take advantage of the situation the wrong or Evil way..and that thinking of non decisiveness is the essence of Evil, unless ur Evil then U would think me as the one who is Evil, and I am male and live alone and my house is wide open.. As a mature adult the disaster what ever it maybe from child no matter what another classifies that child or children are worth the time and trouble hence the saying no child left behind which is not just for an education thing being education includes that Child's community (us).. Most of our Corrupt people were abused in one form or another.. why a lot of them do not CARE and are very good actors...Take a look in the Eyes of the Obama's and then look into the eye's of the other's do U see it??? That light u may see which I do shows even more when they are together right there is the proof of a great leader.. would u want some one who is not true to their moral and value to represent us in a strong hold or would u rather one who is afeared cause of the poor or cause they say they will but do not feel they should represent us righteously.. with Family Values and Neighbor Love of a family Unit cause they do not even know where to begin.. I personally would take the one who walks the walk and talks the talk and not misrepresent us..and yes call a corrupt person a corrupt person..why baby an adult who is in charge of the situation who does not grasp it in the first place, which leads us to another part of the problem treating the offender better than the Victim???? we being the Victim of these corrupt people..why should I treat that offender better than what they are treating me and my fellow Americans and Fellow Brothers and Sisters abroad.. They were not Burning our Flag or the KJV that was their Government...they were on the internet pleading help us our own government is Killing us please do not believe these lies..Not only is it here it is over there..The Essence of Evil...Why the push to abort us from the worldwide web..we are in contact with the world..not just in our own mind anymore...

[-] 0 points by Adeimantus (23) 2 years ago

Have we met before. ;-)

[-] -2 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

Like when Obama campaigned against an individual healthcare mandate when debating Hillary Clinton in the primaries, then does a 180 and signs it into law as soon as he has the opportunity? Is that what you are talking about?

[-] 1 points by RoughKarma (122) 2 years ago

So you agree that Obama is willing to act in the spirit of compromise for the benefit of the country. The culinary equivalent of this is mixing your peas in with your mashed potatoes so you can get them down. Or putting cheese on... well... anything.

[-] 0 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

hahahaha! are you kidding? He totally scammed everyone! He knew the mandate is unpopular so he campaigned against it. Then realized oh - the only way the plan works is with a mandate. Biggest lier in history!

[-] 1 points by RoughKarma (122) 2 years ago

So you supported Obama when he was against individual mandates.

[-] 0 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

No - I never supported him. He was right on the mandate not because poor people cant afford it but because it is unconstitutional to force people to buy a product or service. If the govt can force you to buy medical insurance, what else can they force you to do? Secondly, it's not about healthcare, it's about controlling the voters. Just like the other entitlement programs. Anyone who dares mention reform does so at their political peril. We are addicted to government goodies and they love it!

[-] 1 points by RoughKarma (122) 2 years ago

I guess I want health care reform because I am planning on getting sick soon and I would like to be able to afford it. The doctors, the hospitals, the drug companies, medical supply people and the insurance companies all want to take advantage of my impending illness and make money from it. Having health insurance isn't really a luxury or an optional thing, if you anticipate being sick. You just simply can't afford it on your own. There are a number of ways to approach this problem, but none of them are perfect and none of them are totally fair to everyone. You can look at it as the government forcing people to buy insurance if you want to, but the reality is that the people who would be forced don't have it now and they still use the system and everybody else has to pay for it. If we could keep them from getting sick or from going to the doctor, I might agree with you.

People, I think, know they need health insurance and either have it or want to have it. I mean, I've not heard of anyone refusing to get insurance for religious reasons or something like that. There are people who think they don't need it because they're not going to get sick or hurt. We know they're wrong, but by the time they figure it out we're footing the bill for their lack of foresight. "Forcing" them merely means trying to get rid of the freeloaders in the healthcare system. This sounds like a position the Republicans would embrace, having everyone pay their own way. Why is that bad? What part of the constitution does it violate?

[-] 1 points by TedIV (40) 2 years ago

Yes all those people expected to get hurt on the Job and life's path..They planned their children to be born with incurable diseases. They planned our politicians corruption, so they ended up low income people, these poor they planned it all and yes there are people I have heard refuse health care cause religious belief me I am a 1% when it comes to drugs being useful so I save money there...and having been in an explosion in the army and lucky me I have all my body parts..But the thermal cracks giving bone pain and the joint pain,,and being this happened here in america in the mid 70's it is classified and well I pretty much fend for myself..cause trying to prove a military disability that is classified and in the hands of superiors who do not want u and everyone else to know..again I fend for myself..so health care Yes I care for it and hope u get it when u and all need it...so I will stand for it...show me in the constitution where it is not a violation of rights? it violates Equal rights..re read the constitution, re read the rights on humanity..In order to get health care in the first place outside of the pocket and I doubt u urself could afford actual health care from ur own pocket unless it is from a healthcare provider helping to provide a nice portion of it..well it comes from taxpayers who pay taxes and it goes to the big bank and there it is allocated to the many healthcare providers or we have the private so called sector where it comes from everyone paying so much a month and it goes into a banking structure where it is kept with many other people's payments where it also gathers interest and the government gives some just to help out..of course that sum comes from yup right back to the taxpayer...what killed the healthcare was corruption yes..but the healthcare system that being the Hospitals and its staff and the Doctors (do not call a doctor staff) and its equipment and its drugs, and of course its own bills, surpassed the yes again what the health insurance could pay with the little bit it has, cause they still have to pay their employees at blue cross and blue...I want healthcare reform cause it is long over due..I mean this is not the middle ages and u can just hand over your finest chicken or cow and the wizard hands u some root..

[-] 1 points by TedIV (40) 2 years ago

Oh and with a lot of people out of work taxes are not getting paid and out of the pocket monthly payments are not getting paid, so we have a crisis. were is the money gonna come from are u one of those ahh just print it up by the time it collapses and kaos ensues I'll be long gone is that what u are saying? Hope not cause guess what Brothers and Sisters! that time has come..and we should all stress that suicide is not the answer!!!!! at least lets agree on that one detail are ancestor got thru it in all segments of history..and of course there were those that did not see a light at the end of the tunnel...

[-] -3 points by LaraLittletree (-850) from Scarsdale, NY 2 years ago

thought I'd share this little nugget with you....Mr. or Ms. Karma, Strange and perverse are the patterns of thinking, emoting and behaving that characterize the liberal mind....That its relentless protests and demands become understandable only as disorders of the psyche..... The Liberal Mind reveals the madness of the modern liberal for what it is: a massive transference neurosis acted out in the world's political arenas, with devastating effects on the institutions of liberty.

[-] 1 points by RoughKarma (122) 2 years ago

Ummm... thank you?

[+] -6 points by shadz66 (17836) 2 years ago

@ 'LaraLaTrine' : Well at least have the grace to put up a link or reference to where you've copied and pasted your little nugget of sh*t from, so that the rest of us can see the context, nature and source of the original !!!

You are a proven dissembler, plagiarist and 'Trollette', so I don't expect an answer but feel free to surprise me !!

ad iudicium !

[-] 0 points by LaraLittletree (-850) from Scarsdale, NY 2 years ago

Sounds to me like you like hearing from me. It is no fun to banter with these bs artists all day... who just agree with you. I will not deny being a voracious reader..who is frequently inspired by some great people. party on dude !

[+] -6 points by shadz66 (17836) 2 years ago

No, 'LaraLittleTroll', you're wrong on all counts !!

It is you who is one of the primary BSers on this forum. I was curious about where you'd plagiarised your previous post from but I won't make the mistake of inviting your response ever again, tho' of course I'll still be slapping down your troll-posts as and when I see fit.

Now back to your books and see if you can learn something useful to your fellow Americans. Perhaps your NY condo has turned into a lonely, ivory tower from where all you do is look down upon your fellow citizens with fear and loathing. IF this is indeed the case, then you actually may even deserve a modicum of sympathy but of course you will never say and we will never know or perhaps even care.

Bottom Line : IF you actually liked other human beings, you wouldn't write or even think as you do.

I'm unlikely to ever waste the time that I've taken to respond to you here again, so make the most of it and use your books and reading to open your mind ; soften your heart and look within ~{;-)

nosce te ipsum ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

We don't have an individual healthcare mandate as far as I know. I kind of wish we did, LOL! So, I don't get what you are saying. He's always said he is for expanding coverage.

[-] 0 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

2014 the mandate kicks in. or pay a $750.00 penalty on your tax return. All companies of 50 or more employees will either pay the penalty or provide government approved coverage. If I were an employer I'd pay the penalty & dump everyone onto the exchanges being set up for Obamacare.

He argued against the mandate when debating Hillary Clinton for the nomination: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FHzqY_9IPI

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I think they have the healthcare issue all wrong - all of them. Good luck to any company looking for a plan to cover an employee for $750 per year - not going to find it.

[-] -1 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

that's the point. The penalty is too low. People (and companies) will choose the penalty. Then - when a person gets sick - then they will buy the health insurance. It's a disaster.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Except that they won't be able to, or, oh, I see, Obama has probably eliminated pre-existing conditions. I agree, they have this all wrong - big mess.

[-] 1 points by TedIV (40) 2 years ago

Patriotismgoguery...

[-] -1 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

I second that. "demogoguery" is just shorthand for " I don't agree with him. He's mean."

[-] -2 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Obama is no respecter of our freedom, or our constitution. The Boss picks and chooses what law or parts of laws to enforce. You listen to his speeches so you should know this. He's an immature, unqualified punk, practicing Chicago style politics for our nation.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

So what's Newt? A mature, qualified punk, practicing Southern style politics? Give me a break.

[-] 1 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

you can't defend O by attacking Newton

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I'll take Obama any day over Newt Gingrich. So will most of America. No question.

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[-] -1 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

I wouldn't bet on that. .

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I think that is what the presidential campaign will turn out to be - No Contest.

Yes the republican party still has supporters but - ask not what you can do for your party but what your party is doing to you?

Seems to be the appropriate question. And not just for repub's.

Because some are more apparent/transparent then others does not mean they are acting/notacting alone.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I'm looking at the lesser of two evils. I'm trying to peer into their hearts to see what they are really about. I see Obama's heart as a more loving heart - I'll go with him.

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[-] -1 points by LaraLittletree (-850) from Scarsdale, NY 2 years ago

Obama has a loving heart? Obama and his bunch, and most Dem's ....have given themselves over to evil, embracing every kind of filthy, anti - God cause... in a deal w/ the devil coalition to create a power base, now they can't take any moral positions because if they do they will offend a large part of their base.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Religion doesn't equal morality.

[-] -1 points by LaraLittletree (-850) from Scarsdale, NY 2 years ago

yeah ? and... So what is your point ?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Exactly what I said.

[-] 0 points by LaraLittletree (-850) from Scarsdale, NY 2 years ago

Your statement is obvious to any one with an IQ above 50. don't post any more..just read... please.

[-] -2 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

If Obama took a file to those big ears they would indeed look like satans horns.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

You sound like you are in the 6th grade.

[-] -1 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Don't mention the sixth grade! It was the worst year of my life. Two teachers always were beating the shit out of me. Worst year of my life. I know i was a smart ass, but physical abuse was bad.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Sorry. I didn't care for middle school either, so try not to remind me of it, okay?

[-] -1 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Sorry.

[-] -2 points by LaraLittletree (-850) from Scarsdale, NY 2 years ago

Excellent observation.. These people are nuts here...Barack is destroying this already pretty messed up country...Why put him in again ?..let's give some else a chance. I wish we could have Cheney for pres.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I agree. That is why it will be a no-contest in the Presidential race.

President = Obama

Because some are more apparent/transparent then others does not mean they are acting/notacting alone.

So ask not what you can do for your party but what your party is doing to you?

Unite in common cause. Hate the things that are wrong in this world. Support each-other in making things right. This is where the healing will begin.

The Government of "The People" by "The People" for "The People"

We are the 99%. Take part in "The Peoples" Lobby.

Take action. See samples of how below.

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http://sanders.enews.senate.gov/mail/util.cfm?mailaction=clickthru&gpiv=2100081904.557411.411&gen=1&mailing_linkid=34578

The petition to save abandoned houses has 16 signatures. We picked one up at around 11:07am 01/16/2012. Were just rolling right along.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Savingpeople-savinghomes-payingdowntheNationaldeficit/

Here is a place where you can directly address change. Take part, it does not hurt and may very well heal/help. Forward the cause of reform and rebirth.

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Sierra Club has some good things to take part in as well. Set-up and ready for you to take part in. http://sierraclub.org/

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Getting the money out is the number one issue, no doubt. And, I'll check out Sierra Club. Thanks.

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[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Anytime.

[-] -3 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

I believe he is much more qualified and much more intellectually sound than Obama. The community organizer is dim witted, and respects not our constitution. He has told us in his speeches he intends to bypass congress to get his agenda through. He has made illegal appointments while congress is in session. He said he will not allow a minority party in the senate to stop him from proceeding in his efforts to help the "middle class americans". What Big Ears fails to understand, is fillibustering is a method to stop a runaway congress from bringing abrupt change on the civil society. Obama believes because he got 52% of the vote, he was given a mandate to fuck the whole society over. Do you not see this? He is a tyrant, divisive as Satan himself.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Newt Gingrich has "convinced" everyone that he is intellectually sound because he is a blowhard. But even if he is, he is not "morally" sound.

[-] 0 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

Not 'morally' sound? What the heck does that mean? I look forward to a race in which the American voter is urged to choose Chicago Barry as "morally superior" to Newt.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

If you don't know, I can't help you.

[-] 0 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

I do not know. help me out. Were Bill Clinton, Elliott Spitzer, Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy, Jim McGreevey, Rudy Giuliani all morally sound?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I would take any of them over Newt Gingrich, except, maybe, Rudy Giuliani, that would be a tie.

[-] 0 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

OK, now I understand what you mean by "morally sound". You mean a Democrat.

As I figured. Thanks for clearing that up.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I guess so. I wasn't even thinking along those lines, but yup, you're right. You did set me up, though, by only naming one Republican and naming one of my least favorites of all time.

[-] -1 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

2 republicans - Newt & Rudy - vs. 5 dems, including quite morally challenged Dems like Ted, McGreevey & Spitzer, and you only have problems with the Repubs. Not exactly a set-up, but fairly revealing re our partisan lenses

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Fair enough. Must be an ideological thing....

[-] -3 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Most of our presidents have not been "morally" sound. Newt has far more knowledge of our constitution, it's application, and how it is being trampled on today. Obama is a trampler. He has no respect for our constitution.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

New Gingrich has no respect for the majority of the American people.

[-] 0 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

whatever that means...

How about someone who pushes thru a massively unpopular national health insurance law, contrary to the will of the American people as expressed in every single poll taken at the time? That wasn't Newt...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Newt hasn't had a chance to f up our country and probably never will, let's hope. I, personally, think Obama gets healthcare wrong, as do most politicians, but I am for universal healthcare at a very basic catastrophic level only.

What I mean by Newt's lack of respect is the way he talks about poor children, minorities, immigrants. He's very condescending. Sorry. That's what I hear and I lived through the 90's and I remember his ways.

[-] 2 points by nucleus (3291) 2 years ago

He already did as speaker of the house with his Contract ON America.

He's also largely responsible for the elevation of hypocrisy and scorched earth politics to a new level with impeachment proceedings over a blow job at the same time he was stepping out on his wife.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

You're so right! How could I forget the Contract "With" America. Everything Newt is stored so far back in my mind because it is so highly unpleasant. Thanks, I guess, for reminding me.

[+] -4 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Can you prove this? Do you believe Obama respects the majority of us? He has not mustered any support from conservatives. This is an extremely divisive man..

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Oh. I think he's tried to muster support from conservatives which is why he's lost some respect from his base, but conservatives just don't like him and I won't say why, it's too ugly.

And, no, I don't hear Obama rudely putting down poor children or minorities or anyone for that matter. I just don't hear it.

[-] -2 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Of course not. That is his base and poor is where he wants to keep them. Pathetic and evil. He is evil personified.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Please. You sound ridiculous.

[-] -2 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Please, that is liberal policy. Big secret to you libs, but a known fact to everyone else. Obama HATES anyone doing well. His reward is to steal more from those who work hard. The dick brain stripped 500 billion from medicare. He really cares about those who depend on it like the elderly.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Huh? Are you saying poor people don't work hard?

[-] -3 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

You mean those STUPID 99%'rs that voted for him?

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I don't understand your sentence but I'll say this. I don't care who voted for him. I'll assume a lot of them are in the 99%, would have to be given the math, right? And, yes, they need to smarten up. A lot of people in the 99% are very mixed up.

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

What part did you not understand?

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Either you changed the wording of the sentence or I read it wrong.

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

I changed it. LOL.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I was 99% sure you changed it. LOL!

[-] -1 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

the 1% love Obama and Romney. they shower them with cash.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

True. And, right now, Gingrich has some rich guy backing him.

[-] -2 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

and Obama doesn't?

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Obama has many rich people backing him (and poor and middle class). Newt has one rich guy financing him.

[-] -1 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

oh really? what's his name?

[-] -2 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

And no one else has made any contributions to Newt's campaign? Zero? Not one single solitary other person? I find that hard to believe.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Seems like if they have, it's been very minimal. I don't make stuff up. Sorry. I know it's weird. It's like this guy, Sheldon Adelson, bought the South Carolina primary for Newt. Nice to have money in this country.

[-] -2 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

He's got the endorsement of economist Arthur Laffer - that's good enough for me.

[-] 2 points by UncomonSense (386) 2 years ago

"A simplified view of Laffer's theory is that tax revenues would be zero if tax rates were either 0% or 100%, and somewhere in between 0% and 100% is a tax rate which maximizes total revenue."

Seems pretty obvious. Not sure why someone would get recognition for that.

"Laffer's postulate was that the tax rate that maximizes revenue was at a much lower level than previously believed: so low that current tax rates were above the level where revenue is maximized."

Which clearly has not proven to be the case at all, but explains why Bush & Cheney adopted this guy - it was just an excuse to cut tax rates on themselves and their rich pals.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Okay. I'm glad you're happy. Thanks for the civil debate, by the way.

[-] -2 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

but OWS doesn't nail Obama to the cross. OWS carries his water.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Not true at all. OWS is not a political movement. We're working harder than anyone to get money out of politics. I can't speak for OWS as I'm not an official spokesperson or anything, but I believe it is one of the top issues.

[-] 0 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

Getting the money out of politics?? You've got to be kidding, right? Let's build a spaceship to Jupiter, too. It's probably a more realistic goal.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

[-] -1 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

OWS is not a political movement lol! That's the funniest thing I've ever heard.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

Glad to make you laugh. So where do you get your information that it is a political movement? It is a social movement from what I can see.

[-] 0 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

what is the difference between a social movement & a political one?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I like this definition of a social movement:

Blumer (1939): "Social Movements can be viewed as collective enterprises seeking to establish a new order of life."

The political movement would be a sub-set of the social movement. OWS hasn't reached that part yet or at least hasn't focused on it yet, that I can see. It may in the future. I don't know.

[-] -1 points by Galt01 (55) 2 years ago

interesting. However I don't see how social order can change without the political movement to go with it.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20426) 2 years ago

I'm sure you are right. Eventually, there would have to be political change, but the social change supersedes everything else.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

Not according to the CNN report tonight. It was the $50k people that voted for him.

[-] 1 points by Nordic (390) 2 years ago

What liberal did he beat again? I missed that somewhere.

Oh right, he got the "I wave my dirty ass at "The Golden Rule" vote"

He got the "I laugh uproariously at killing innocent people on Death Row vote"

To borrow a Harry Potter allusion, he got the Deatheater vote.

Good for him.

[-] 1 points by gosso920 (-24) 2 years ago

Obama is quaking in his jackboots.

[-] 1 points by DiMasciosBridge (170) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

Like so carolina is representative of anything other than a bunch of...........

lol

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

So you hate 1% and now YOU hate an entire state. Figures.

[-] 1 points by DiMasciosBridge (170) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

Boy, you created ALL THAT right out of your own mind? amazing....

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

Sorry,,,, I thought you would understand. I will put it in the wording that you used (...............).

[-] 1 points by DiMasciosBridge (170) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

Now you're following suit. Damn...this is almost too easy.

[-] 1 points by opensociety4us (914) from Norwalk, CT 2 years ago

I can't wait until those highly paid janitors with families lose their jobs to our nation's 12 year olds.

USA! USA! USA!

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

You would bitch if someone gave you a new rope to hang yourself with. How hard is it to sweep a floor?

[-] 1 points by DiMasciosBridge (170) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

You'll know soon enough.

[-] 1 points by opensociety4us (914) from Norwalk, CT 2 years ago

I know, man. Fuck those motherfucking working janitors and their families cuz in America we got kids who'll do that work just for food.

Shit man, we don't even have to give the little ones cold hard cash, just food stamps!

USA! USA! USA!

(oh yeah, and "string him up!")

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

Obviously, you are a janitor.

[-] 1 points by opensociety4us (914) from Norwalk, CT 2 years ago

Obviously, you are an elitist.

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[-] 1 points by shifty2 (117) 2 years ago

Nothing has worked yet, Time to take a differant direction, Dr Paul will be the leader to try to make the turn in that direction, Don't forget the President can only do so much, So hopefully only his best changes will pass. Do no be afraid of change it can be great. It probably will never happen, But one can only hope. Ron Paul 2012

[-] 1 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

The Christian Evangelicals like him.

[-] 1 points by Jehovah (113) 2 years ago

Christian evangelicals are a plague upon this earth, my daughter.

[-] 1 points by TedIV (40) 2 years ago

Misrepresentation of the word by any group is a plague upon us.. It started out that the High priest ran it all then it was broken down to letting others who were outside that church..yet little did they know back then but the High priest still ruled they just put a front person out in front, then revolt came then population growth then the dissection of the church. Where rather than the church taking the percentage of money in form of tidings and when needed to help someone with what tidings they needed, it was and is outside the church or also known as a governing body for the so called people or Government...Church said F it enjoy your essence of EVIL...all the programs of today were just actions of the church to do in order of their faith..Now its a bunch of Yahoo's ripping every one off....saying they are Christian..They are not they are Satanists....oooo did I say that OUT LOUD!!!!! DID YA HEAR ME!!!

[-] 0 points by Adeimantus (23) 2 years ago

The real problem, as you know, are conspiracy theorists. Those nut jobs destroy logical thought.

[-] 1 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

But my Father, who ever shall I blindly follow if not Pat Robertson and Billy Graham. What will I do. I shall be forever lost without the guiding hand of the religious right and their self righteous and pious hands in politics. Save me.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

Since this was a primary and obviously it was Republicans voting for republicans, it would seem that making the assumption that the 'poor like him' is an over statement.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

I guess you didnt read the results. If you had you would not have posted what you did. Based on the results of the voting, he got 40% of the votes from REPUBLICANS that were making $50K or BELOW. What part of that dont you understand? """"PEOPLE"""" making below $50K voted for him. Geeezzzzz,,, read the results before you post.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

Please see my reply below. I made no assumption about the income status of the republicans who participated in the primary, I simply point out the obvious, it was republicans voting for republicans...obviously the over all goal isn't who is best for the country nor who is best for the republicans as individuals, but rather who they believe can win the general election over any offering made by the Democratic party.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

The vote included 40% by those that were republican and had an income of $50K or below. These were,, in OWS eyes, poor people 99% that vote republican and believe in conservative values. I would bet these are people that are middle income in huge rural areas. $50K is enough to buy a nice house, nice car, vacations, and still have money to put in some investments and savings. But no where close to the rich 1%.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

And what does that have to do with the premise that republicans will vote in a primary for the republican they most feel can defeat a democrat in a general election?

It makes me wonder why anyone would wish to debate that simple premise.

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

What all of you fail to understand is that many of us, middle income, enjoy our way of life. We work hard, pay our taxes on time, donate our money and time to causes WE believe in, Sign a mortgage that we actually READ BEFORE WE sign and agree that we can pay the monthly payments, have money in investments and savings so if we lose our jobs we can make the payments on time. Believe in God and country. Dont spend two seconds thinking about some rich farts. I wish I was a rich fart and wil always be working toward that. $50K is well below what you would consider middle income but most people enjoy that amount of money.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

I am one of those people, I also paid cash for my home, my autos and everything else I have. However, I fail to see why the simple reality of republicans voting for republicans with the goal of promoting ONE they feel can defeat a democrat stirs this controversy.

When voting within a party, it's simply which part of the party line you vote for and which candidate can bring that party line into mainstream.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

Here is my beef that I repeat over and over and over. Under a liberal agenda, the RICH liberal democrats got MUCH richer while the poor liberal democrats got much poorer. I dont understand why you dont see that.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

I haven't been arguing with you, I have merely pointed out that it's natural to expect republicans to vote for the party candidate they feel has the best chance to win against democrat candidate in the general election.

If you wish to discuss which party 'robs' the most, I will abstain from such discussion, it appears it is as nearly equal as it is possible to be with very few exceptions.

[+] -6 points by ZenDog (20554) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

< ahem >

that's repelicans, dear . . . .

  • repelicans
[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

Yeah, Zen, I know, but my fingers can't seem to type the new language...guess I'm stuck in the 50's when it comes to spelling.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26739) 2 years ago

50s??

You must mean the last Republican president, Eisenhower.

They switched over to (R)epelicans with Dick " I am not a crook" Nixon. The first (R)epelican experiment.

There were still a few Republicans around for a while, but by and large they have been replaced with (R)epelicans over the years.

I used to use the variable term Repuliservitarians, as they didn't seem to know what to call themselves. As if they couldn't see the (R) after whoever they were voting for.

It's been their most effective excuse for some time, if they don't agree with a certain (R)epelican policy, IE: " That's not a conservative policy".

In the end (R)epelican is easier to type, yet still an accurate descriptive.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

Yep shooz, the 50's...

[-] 1 points by shooz (26739) 2 years ago

Yeppers.

The air raid sirens would go off, and it was time to play "duck and cover".

I knew even then, that was a useless exercise.

I know now it was nothing but propaganda, writ large.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

Along with McCarthyism ruined lives...propaganda and fear mongering.

[+] -6 points by ZenDog (20554) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

it's easy - honest.

just take it slowly at first - your fingers will become accustomed to it in no time.

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[-] 2 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

LOL

[-] -1 points by trailerParkTim (-13) 2 years ago

OWS will be history and and end to the four Month era, at the end of this Month

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 2 years ago

Shit fool. Don't you know the American Fall was just a sneak preview. As Americans we know how the lame and the misinformed like the sneak peak before the show. The spring has sprung.

[-] 1 points by DiMasciosBridge (170) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

The US Spring is about to give some of you folks a rude awakening.

[+] -6 points by ZenDog (20554) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

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[-] -1 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Are you saying all republicans are rich? You are not too bright if you think that.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

No dear, I'm saying they are republicans.

[-] 1 points by Lardhead2 (67) 2 years ago

The republicrat establishment has picked Romney. End of story.

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[-] 1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

sakura would have been proud

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[-] 0 points by TedIV (40) 2 years ago

No the Klan like him..

[-] 0 points by shifty2 (117) 2 years ago

Nothing has worked yet, Time to take a differant direction, Dr Paul will be the leader to try to make the turn in that direction, Don't forget the President can only do so much, So hopefully only his best changes will pass. Do no be afraid of change it can be great. It probably will never happen, But one can only hope. Ron Paul 2012

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[-] 0 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

i like ron paul's plan better, cut the tax rate to 0% let them live off the fines they impose on the offenders, for now they are justdouble dipping, one of the reasons why they lost control of their spending, cause they are like a kid at the candy store that doesnt know when to stop until we take the candy away!

[-] 0 points by LiveAndLetLive (79) from Fort Lauderdale, FL 2 years ago

while I'll take Newt any day over Mitt, most people don't realize that Newt can not win the nomination. Both Newt and Rick have failed to register in states ballots TOTALING 564 DELEGATES, remember any candidate needs 1,144 delegates out of 2,286 to win the nominee.

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 2 years ago

Interesting if true. Got a source?

[-] 1 points by LiveAndLetLive (79) from Fort Lauderdale, FL 2 years ago

I just heard it on msnbc yesterday in an interview with Doug Wead, luckily I could find a youtube link.... 3:04 min in the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxKpRctPHyc&feature=player_embedded#!

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 2 years ago

Thank you. Assuming it's accurate, that would leave Newt the Toadstool as a real longshot at best, requiring a majority of primary decisions to be rendered null and void in order for him to be appointed the GOP candidate.

I'd say he'll end up with the VP slot under Romeny, joining lack of family values, hypocrisy and corporate cronyism with the superrich and self-serving. That should unite the GOP.

[-] 0 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

Do all conservatives make drag queens out of dogs or is it only laralittletree?

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

He beat a LOT of liberals. How? Gingrich got 40% of the vote from low to middle income $50K or less, "republicans." And that meant that you liberals THINK that anyone making $50K or less is automatically considered a democrat. YOU LOST the liberal agenda initiative. Just because you dont make a lot of money doesnt mean your a democrat. So, he BEAT you liberals Saturday night too. Yep,,,, you did,,, obviously miss that somewhere,, using your quote.

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

Gingrich wins in S Carolina. He gets 40% of voting republicans that make $50,000 or less (low middle-class) and the nice folks on here are pissed that low 99% support him. They hate this SO MUCH than now the posts are using the KKK-Card. Being a liberal waking up each morning must SUCK.

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

He has cheated on two wifes. Had an affair. You liberals should be rooting for such liberal lifestyles. I would guess you would vote for him.

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[-] -1 points by Skippy2 (485) 2 years ago

Ya gotta love a fighter.....

[-] 6 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

He's a pasty pig that would get his ass handed to him in any bar.He prey's on the weak to fatten him and his litter mates. A spineless coward with a blowhards mouth.A true gutless wonder of the american political machine. Nothing else to add.

[-] 2 points by ARod1993 (2420) 2 years ago

Gingrich is in fact an intelligent man, and acted as a kingmaker and power broker for the GOP for a long time. He's nowhere near as crazy as the majority of the current slate of candidates, and I'm very much glad of that. The problem with Gingrich is that he's ten different kinds of a sleazebag, both politically and personally, and given that one of the major points of this movement is that sleazebaggery in DC is not acceptable it would be nuts for us to actually endorse him. The fact that Gingrich is one of the only sane ones left on the GOP ballot is not in the least an argument in favor of Gingrich but rather a sad testament to how far the party has fallen in recent decades. At the end of the day, Gingrich for president would be no different than Karl Rove for president; the only difference is that this time he wouldn't have to go through the trouble of running behind a malleable idiot like Rove and Cheney did in 2000 and 2004.

[-] 3 points by hamalmang (722) from Lebanon, PA 2 years ago

The man wrote a bill that said we would execute anyone bringing in a handful of pot into the country. He is just as crazy as the others.

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 2 years ago

OK; I just looked into the drug thing and it's apparently true (the Drug Importer Death Penalty Act), which is both flat-out ridiculous and hilariously hypocritical given just how much weed the guy smoked in college. He is just as crazy as the others; it's just a different kind of crazy and he's also far better at hiding it than the others (i.e. it becomes apparent when you look into his background, but he's not up on stage shouting it from the rooftops like Bachmann was). That said, he's still a great tactician (and a vicious little sonofabitch) and I still don't want him within half a mile of DC.

[-] 0 points by Skippy2 (485) 2 years ago

yep

[-] -2 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

wow. what spleen. port jervis must be a pretty sorry place in the obama age.

[-] 3 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

Sorry Bon Ton I detest both occupy the little tree

[-] 0 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

Understand your hatred for Obama age, but don't hate Port Jervis too much. There's probably worse places.

[+] -5 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Nothing else to add? How about he makes your intellect look like a retard?

[+] -6 points by LaraLittletree (-850) from Scarsdale, NY 2 years ago

Read what Kruschev said, "We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism"..............Is this the plan for the USA? Wake up people !!!! Go Newt !! take it all the way....

[-] 2 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

Lara I will tale my dog for a walk in the woods today.It is cold here with lot's of snow , You should go out and enjoy the day.I will play with you latter.

[-] -1 points by LaraLittletree (-850) from Scarsdale, NY 2 years ago

oh excellent...Thanks...I will be home later too. have a great day.

[-] -3 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

Many people want this. Zendog, Shooz, girlfriday, hitgirl, among many others hanging around this site. Obama must be destroyed at the ballot box, utterly annihilated. This communist party disguised as democrat must be defeated forever!

[+] -5 points by ZenDog (20554) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Actually the people you just listed are fairly mainstream in their views regarding socialist policy . . .

There are many others within the movement who take a much more radical approach to matters of government policy - philosophically speaking - and I think most of them have left and gone elsewhere.

In any case . . ..

  • the repelican party is DONE
[-] -3 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

You have deluded yourself.

[+] -5 points by ZenDog (20554) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

That is not very likely. I've been engaged in revolt of the social construct for quite some time - and only articulated a case for revolt in 2009.

Here we are. On the cusp of revolution.

The repelican party has lied - repeatedly - reganonomics is a failure, blue dress stains do not trump issues of national security like terrorism, and Global Warming is here.

Holding up the budget debate with brinkmanship, creating market uncertainty that drove jobs and market numbers down six weeks into that debate, and all for the purpose of political gain - these are all issues of very serious national concern. We cannot keep kicking the can down the road when it comes to our national debt - and we cannot balance the budget on the backs of middle class America.

Repelican policy of economic deregulation has brought us to the brink of economic collapse.

It is inevitable, given both the sum of the lies and the sweeping policy failures - the people will vote these repelican fools out of office.

It's just a matter of time.

It's also a matter of national security.

  • the repelican party is DONE.

You will see this become quite apparent over the course of the next six years.

What is uncertain is whether there will be ice caps left at either pole by that time.

we will see.

[-] -1 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

You prove my point. Your boy that left the stains on the blue dress signed the repeal of glass-Steagall. Wtf? You are blinded by your over zealous ideology, that you have forsaken any intellectual honesty whatsoever. To call yourself a middle of the road moderate, is, insane.

[+] -6 points by ZenDog (20554) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Obviously President Clinton made many mistakes. That does not change the fact that it has been a matter of conservative repelican policy to pursue economic deregulation - or that this pursuit dates back several decades.

Inside Job articulates that very well.

[-] 0 points by Kirby (104) 2 years ago

The repeal of glass-Steagal, the community reinvestment act of 1977 that the peaNUT farmer signed, and massive top down centralized government with it's catastrophic debt and stifling of growth in private sector investment is what has put the world on it's back. One could add Bushes Medicare part D and TARP to the list. Big ears stimulus has fucked us off pretty well too, leaving us in a deeper cess pool than anyone could have believed.

[-] -2 points by slammersworldisback (-217) 2 years ago

I guess you missed the snowfall and cold in Alaska.....at record levels, and the expanding glaciers throughout the world:

http://www.iceagenow.com/List_of_Expanding_Glaciers.htm

But, because the one in your back yard is shrinking, it must be true everywhere else too.....you're a libtard who will believe anything that supports your ideology, true or not....

YOU and those like you are done....the Republicans are just getting started, when we're done, EVERYONE who makes an effort and produces results will get a just reward, those who don't will live substandard lives which will motivate them to improve their situation or continue to experience hardship.....and there will be consequences for bad behavior, borne by those who demonstrate the behavior...not the rest of society that doesn't....there won't be the restrictions on commerce that favor the large players and encourage cronyism by large companies. All business will have a chance to compete, not be eliminated on a technicality by those advocating for the power brokers of the left who simply want power over others, not the best for their fellow man.......and you useful idiots will have to get with the program or suffer the consequences....no more laying around with someone else paying the rent for your worthless lives.

[+] -6 points by ZenDog (20554) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Brian Williams reported on Thursday, January 5, 2012, that 98% of the nation is above freezing; and 115 cities around the country set all time record high temps for this day.

Jim Cantore elaborated on those numbers to state that of those 115 record high temps, four of them were 41 degrees above average and all time highs not just for day, but the entire month of January.


  • Average global temperatures in the Early Carboniferous Period were hot- approximately 20° C (68° F). However, cooling during the Middle Carboniferous reduced average global temperatures to about 12° C (54° F). As shown on the chart below, this is comparable to the average global temperature on Earth today!

  • Similarly, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the Early Carboniferous Period were approximately 1500 ppm (parts per million), but by the Middle Carboniferous had declined to about 350 ppm -- comparable to average CO2 concentrations today!

  • Late Carboniferous to Early Permian time (315 mya -- 270 mya) is the only time period in the last 600 million years when both atmospheric CO2 and temperatures were as low as they are today (Quaternary Period ).

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What the world needs to watch

  • Global warming is mainly the result of CO2 levels rising in the Earth’s atmosphere. Both atmospheric CO2 and climate change are accelerating. Climate scientists say we have years, not decades, to stabilize CO2 and other greenhouse gases.

  • To help the world succeed, CO2Now.org makes it easy to see the most current CO2 level and what it means. So, use this site and keep an eye on CO2. Invite others to do the same. Then we can do more to send CO2 in the right direction.

    • 2010 - 389.78

    • 2008 - 385.57

    • 2006 - 381.85

    • 1987 - 348.98 . . . . . . . . The last year when the annual CO2 level was less than 350 ppm

    • 1959 - 315.98 . . . . . . . . The first year with a full year of instrument data

    • From: CO2now.org What the world needs to watch


You should go watch a movie.

Why is warming bad?

because there are over one billion people on the planet dependent on glacial runoff for their drinking water, and once the glaciers all disappear, those people will do one of two things -

  • die of dehydration

  • immigrate

Imagine, a mass of one billion people, environmental refugees, wandering dry places, looking for water - at some point, the needs of survival dictate that many of them will kill, to satisfy that basic human need. We are talking about the prospect of social instability on a global scale. Refusal to do anything to provide a solution is to deny our own humanity, and such a denial on such a mass scale begs the question of whether or not the entire race of man is fit for existence at all.

A warmer climate means we can grow food in a greater amount of area.

That is not the evidence given us by the current environments of TExass or much of the rest of the south west. Rain fall patterns are changing, drought in that specific area is spreading - and that will dislocate the bread basket of the U.S.

How much CO2 is there in the atmosphere?

Answer:

Is it the most predominant gas? What is the most predominant gas?

How does that gas affect global temperature?

Why do global warming graphs generally only look at the past 1,000 years or so?

[-] -2 points by SteveKJR (-497) 2 years ago

I think this is great. Put him up against the Obimination in a debate and the Obimination will walk away "embarrassed".

The Obimination might "appear" to be "stellar" but the truth of the matter is he is all "fluff".

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[-] 0 points by BonTon (57) 2 years ago

hey, I actually agree with Steve!

[+] -4 points by TryingForAnOpenMind (-358) from Yonkers, NY 2 years ago

God Bless Newt. Newt rocks, he has pledged to issue a series of Executive Orders to create jobs and help undo the damage of the Obama administration on the first day of his administration. To harness the wisdom and knowledge of the American people, Newt is now collecting ideas for executive orders that he would sign on the first day.

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[+] -6 points by ZenDog (20554) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

you mean ignorant, inbred repelicans like him.

bwa hahahaha

  • the repelican party is DONE
[-] -2 points by FreeDiscussion1 (109) 2 years ago

You are so happy with the way our country has gone. I hope we get four more years of obama and every liberal democrat will commit suicide in 4 yeras.

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[+] -5 points by ZenDog (20554) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

It is highly unlikely we will get anyone else - and that will almost certainly be just the beginning.