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Forum Post: German Prosecutors Probe Reports Of Mass Internet Surveillance By US Intel

Posted 5 years ago on June 30, 2013, 10:55 a.m. EST by Nevada1 (5843)
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[-] 3 points by TikiJ (-38) 5 years ago

This entire authoritarian system needs to go. And soon, before it proposes anymore "solutions".

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago

Well said.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22855) 5 years ago

Snail mail is being watched too. Look at this:


So, this is how they spend our money, photographing 160 billion pieces of mail per year!

"Mr. Pickering was targeted by a longtime surveillance system called mail covers, a forerunner of a vastly more expansive effort, the Mail Isolation Control and Tracking program, in which Postal Service computers photograph the exterior of every piece of paper mail that is processed in the United States — about 160 billion pieces last year. It is not known how long the government saves the images."

"Law enforcement officials need warrants to open the mail, although President George W. Bush asserted in a signing statement in 2007 that the federal government had the authority to open mail without warrants in emergencies or in foreign intelligence cases."

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Industrial espionage and insider trading are rampant in business.

Hiding those activities behind a govt. org is not surprising.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33733) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Kinda funny or appropriate - depending on how one looks at it - considering the history.

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 5 years ago

It's worse than you imagine. Many German ISPs have shut down all internet traffic in the interim. Because our government does not want us sharing non-supportive sentiment with our soon to be allies.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago

Thank you for comment. Would like to hear more on this. Do you have a link?

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 5 years ago

No I don't have a link but I know that virtually the entire city of Wurzburg has been shut down. They are not permitting Emails. We need to find out what was contained within Snowden's files that was so vital that government has chosen to label him a traitor. I suspect they may reveal a darker side of this administration that they do not wish Americans to see.

[-] 4 points by windyacres (1197) 5 years ago

Saw a tweet from Glenn Grennwald that said Snowden had now released all of his info to the press, but the press is choosing when and what to print.

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 5 years ago

I want to see it but have been unable to locate it online; what will these files reveal of this to us of the world's money mongers? And the lack of veracity in American political acting?

[-] 3 points by windyacres (1197) 5 years ago

I'm worried we may never know. We weren't informed of significant wikileaks revelations. American politicians are apparently puppets.

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 5 years ago

Somewhat incongruous that the demeanor of an Obama would find Snowden guilty of treason; there is something there they don't want us to see.