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Forum Post: From Occupons Montréal - Please help

Posted 2 years ago on May 24, 2012, 2:45 p.m. EST by bopollo (14)
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Hi, I'm an active participant in Occupons Montréal who's very involved in the protests here. We don't actually have very good contacts with you guys, and I don't know how I should go about getting this info spread through your networks. Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.


The people of La Belle Province invite you, tonight, at 8pm EST, to grab your pots and pans, go out on your balcony and bang it as loud as you can. In solidarity with the people of Quebec, show your indignation for corruption, undemocratic practices, and debt slavery. Repeat.

Montreal police have been doing whatever it takes to snuff out the nightly protests.

In response, we've de-centralized.

Last night, at 8pm EST, people all over the province, but mainly in Montreal, went outside and started banging on kitchen pots, making a massive noise that could be heard all over Montreal island.

People came off their balconies and into the streets, and dozens of marches started forming, getting larger, and larger, all converging on downtown.

We're doing it again tonight, and every night, jusqu'à la victoire!

[1] Video of la manif des casseroles https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oFwLwy13eLw#!

[2] local article http://www.montrealgazette.com/banging+against+Quebec+protest+catching/6672798/story.html

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[-] 4 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

Bravo Montreal! Let's make the whole U.S. Tin Pan Alley!!!

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Vive Les Occupants !!!

& Timely Bumpage !!

SOLIDARITY !

fiat justitia ...

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

WTF?! Re. Trashy - There was a pedantic put down by Bot-Boy here to which I replied (9:15 am EST, 26th May) ! Both The Trashy comment AND my reply have now vanished - despite 'up votes' for both !! Has Trashy infiltrated The Mods / Admin or surreptitiously arrogated such rights unto himself & IF so , HOW so ?!!!

Interested Minds May Wanna Know IF forum integrity is being compromised ...

ad iudicium ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (21543) 2 years ago

I would like to know. I saw your comment. Where did it go?

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Hmmmm ... re Trashy, I take it that you are one of the "interested minds" n'est ce pas ?

I just went to The Real Time Comments Stream (see option next to "Archive" and "Bubbling") above and retrieved my comment :

  • "Thread: From Occupons Montréal - Please help [-] 4 points by shadz66 (4160) 17 minutes ago TCH, Tch, tch Tr@shy : Mais mon petit ami - I ain't a natural born French speaker like yourself and despite all your other pretensions - (pseudo)"socialist" ; (plastic)"anarchist" ; (faux)'paragon of the scientific method' - etc. Etc. ETC. - I'd've hoped that you could've taken my comment in the spirit in which it was meant, ie One Of Solidarity. Encore - TCH, Tch, tch !!! Wassup ?!! Quebec / Montreal too close to home and HQ to NOT get unnecessarily hot and bothered about ?! honi soit qui mal y pense ... ↥twinkle ↧stinkle edit delete permalink

The comment above was in reply to his insistence that "Vive Les Occupants" was wrong and should've been "... les Occupants" ! Yeah ... I agree .. worra prize (x)hole he is !!!

The code for this site is open source and available to anyone and as Trashy clearly has some 'puter/bot-scripting skills maybe he has hacked the main code or can jump in and edit ad hoc !!

He fancies himself as a 'Neo-Progressive' but is a forum-subverter and Micro-Fascist - to boot, lol !

ad iudicium ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (21543) 2 years ago

Hmmmm. That, OR the mods are just sick of his b.s., and so, when they get rid of his comments, the replies also disappear.

[-] 6 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

You are a kind at heart person who instinctively and honourably likes to think well of others ... BUT Trashy's comments only seem to be 'selectively disappeared' - generally when he has posted hastily and then regrets having done so. His prickly, pedantic instruction to me to cease using French (wtf?!) was made 6 hours ago but only vanished when I replied half an hour ago (9:15 am EST, 26thMay) !

EITHER Trashy can hack in at choice due to his 'puter skills &/or he has arrogated admin/mod privileges OR he has a 'friend in admin' ... either way I'm getting annoyed at being censored as I lost Three comments to him (one an 8 line ditty!) on GK's "Idealism" related thread yesterday !!

I'm NOT happy at this censorship ... and I may even have a serious sulk soon, LOL !!!

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (21543) 2 years ago

Sorry. I hate to think he has that much power. I do think he's a bit intimidated by you. LOL! You're onto him and he doesn't like it, so you may be right that it is he deleting (or hiding) your comments.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Trashy has NO Power - other than to annoy !!! I don't think that he is "intimidated" at all - other than by All Of Us Here ... but re. "onto him" .. well, much more than I can tell you or than he'll believe !! I may publicly share my dossier ... or may choose to act alone and 'off forum' - as his future behaviour will 'dictate' (he'll love that word, lol!) my future actions .. time will tell - as in all things !

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25218) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Funny - Good stuff - shoe on other foot and all that - Hey?

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (21543) 2 years ago

LOL. Sounds exciting.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

It's actually very boring and tedious ... but you may react as you wish ! LOL ?!! If Only !!!

pax et lux ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (21543) 2 years ago

Come on. It's all kind of funny. You have to admit.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

"I'm Denying It" !!! Also please note this response for any future question which one may need to swerve - honestly and succinctly !! Eg. - The PD really hate this answer to any of their questions !

verb. sat. sap. ...

[-] 4 points by gnomunny (6614) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Trashy, er, I mean lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, mentioned recently the use of a switch (coding switch, of course, not a physical switch) to insert comments into other people's posts. I also noticed, last night, a comment by Renneye in the 'Best Comments' section with 20 points, but clicking on it revealed no such (i.e. missing) comment anywhere in the thread. Remember when Trashy up-voted people to bring them to mods attention, thereby getting them deleted?

You have an e-mail awaiting you somewhere.

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Of Course I do !!! 'Bang!' can go the best laid plans of mice and men tho' !! Sometimes, maybe !

et amor vincit omnia ...

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25218) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Good one.

[+] -5 points by 67192206161 (-56) 2 years ago

What do you mean by "Good one"? Please explain.

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[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Tr@shy : Who is this 'Brian Hynes' character and why should be give his bleatings about Obomber any more credence than yours ? Is 'Mittens Romulan' any better ? What you should rail against is the lack of any meaningful choice in the faux choice / binary contrast of Demoncrap and Repelicunts !

ad iudicium ...

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[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Yes a bit like that ! Plastic Anarchist Posturing has its place too !! But there is little substitute to the hard graft of A True 99% Grassroots Movement !!!

dum spiro, spero ...

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[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Tr@shy : Your tiresome spam is both utterly irrelevant and misplaced and like an obsessed and autistic 'one-trick pony', your regurgitation of your own subjective opinion is more than just authoritarian & even worse - boring !

No one here has any illusions about The Democraps tho' many think that The Replicunts are far worse. Furthermore, you display a fixation with baseless, confected and diversionary claims that ...

  • "Their overall aim is to co-opt Occupy Movement protesters and supporters into the Democratic Party. They do that by giving the Republican Party the blame for everything that is wrong, and giving the credit for what little might be right to the Democratic Party. They do that by ignoring irrefutable proof that the Democratic Party is controlled by the same corporate fascist elite that controls the Republican Party. They do that by claiming that OWS could somehow magically co-opt the Democratic Party,"

Let me simplify it Trashy Spam-Bot : voting Democrap is the only option to some (for reasons of residual hope, deluded loyalty and desperate liberal angst) when faced with the enforced binary faux choice of R & D. For true left, liberal, progressives - voting Demoncrap is like wiping your ass - ie really NOT a subject for polite conversation or even debate - BUT what's the option ?!

The Option of course is that before this year is out ; before The Crapitalist Commercial 'Stuff Fest' of Christ-Mash is over - Real Work for a Mass Movement of True 99% Independents &/or a Third (or more) 'Labour Based' Party needs to institute itself and start The Long March back to love, reason and sanity in The U$A !!

Of course Demoncraps & Repelicunts are two sides of the same crooked coin ... and the sun rises in the east & sets in the west .. tell us something that we don't know Trashy - like you're hanna'bal lecter incarnate &/or that somewhere you have a 'JeRM' of an idea worthy of consideration ... and Stop Fukin' Spamming !!!

verb. sat. sap. ...

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[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (21543) 2 years ago

This is troll spam.

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[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (21543) 2 years ago

You are a corporate plant trying to shrink this movement by dividing it. You are trying to make anyone who supports Obama think that they should not be part of OWS. That is idiotic and ridiculous. Quit your spamming and divisiveness. Stop defending greedy corporations.

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[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (21543) 2 years ago

That is what YOU say to try to shrink this movement, but we are the 99%. I get what you are doing. You are a dissembler. You don't really believe anything you say, you're just a corporate plant working hard to shrink this movement.

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[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

TCH, Thc, thc Tr@shy : Mais mon petit ami - I ain't a natural born French speaker like yourself and despite all your other pretensions - (pseudo)"socialist" ; (plastic)"anarchist" ; (faux)'paragon of the scientific method' - etc. Etc. ETC. - I'd've hoped that you could've taken my comment in the spirit in which it was meant, ie One Of Solidarity. Encore - TCH, Thc, tch !!!

Wassup ?!! Quebec / Montreal too close to home and HQ to NOT get unnecessarily hot and bothered about ?!

honi soit qui mal y pense ...

[-] 4 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 2 years ago

Keep up the good work! Change WILL come if enough of us stand for what is right.

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[-] 1 points by jph (2652) 2 years ago

"terrorism"? you are a dipsht,. eh. Peaceful protest is "terrorism" in your bubble. Guess we know what bubble you live in,. good luck with that.

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[-] 1 points by jph (2652) 2 years ago

yeah,. every action is blamed on the whole movement,. individuals take actions, do they have a commitment for the rest of the movement to speak for them all with these actions?? do you really believe what you are saying? That if some dip-sht does some dastardly deed anyone he was associated with is some how responsible for his actions? people in glass houses, and all that.

[-] 1 points by ikki6 (11) 2 years ago

They were students that took part in the protests and were part of the rioting over the tuition hikes of their super cheap tuition. That to me says the movement.

[-] 0 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 2 years ago

Peaceful protesting != terrorism

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[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (25218) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

You guys are an inspiration. Keep-on Keeping-on.

[-] 2 points by KnowOne (4) 2 years ago

Why fight cooperation when you can pin them against each other.

I propose we ban/protest every McDonald's in the world until they remove each and every Non-Bank ATM… WHY?

By forcing a Goliath like McDonald's to remove $2 fees, we are essentially pinning McDonald’s vs. The Banks.

If McDonald's loses enough business they will follow suit. We can continue this campaign on to other franchises. If Banks/Credit Cards are going to charge us ridiculous fees, I suggest we take away the opportunity.

It’s also the main source of their revenue…

[-] 2 points by rayl (1007) 2 years ago

you guys are so determined! i have tons of respect for all of you.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

You guys in Montreal are conducting a heroic campaign for justice, and are an inspiration to us all.

[-] 2 points by Odin (583) 2 years ago

One of the people in Occupy Town Square was arrested in Montreal, but is back in NYC now. Most everyone in the group of about 12 people sent him our support via email. I promised to buy a couple pitchers of beer next time I am with them all, even though I am a club soda man now. :-)

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[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

"ignorant"? not nice. "more cuddling"? minimizes our plight.!

[-] -2 points by RealityTime (-224) 2 years ago

Plight? Very funny. The only people in Quebec with a "plight" are the people stuck paying the taxes. Other than for them, the only "plight" going on is in the over-indulged fantasies of some ignorant 20-somethings looking for more.

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

You don't support OWS! You are speaking for the 1%.! Although I bet you aren't a 1%'r! We need you to vote your interests. Stop supporting a system that is slanted against you and for the wealthiest 1% You are being used against your fellow 99%'rs! Turn away from the dark side. support OWS

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[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

College SHOULD be as close to free as possible. College cost increases have nothing to do with normal inflation. It is criminal the way we burden our young people with huge debt just as they are starting their lives. It is a new form of indentured servants. If they could get relief they would have more disposable income to create demand (the real economic problem we face) and therefore force job creators to finally hire again. Support the 99% Vote out anti lower student interest rate politicians!

[-] -1 points by RealityTime (-224) 2 years ago

It can never be made free; at best, it's costs can simply be forced onto someone else. Tuition increases have been caused by too much money being indiscriminately thrown at college. Students and their parents borrowed themselves drunk with little thought about the effectiveness and consequences of the spending. Every loan has a signature at the bottom. Students should use their brains and make better choices before they go squealing for more subsidy.

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

"should use their brains"---When bad loans are made there is always smart people in the room. If the a borrower is not smart enough to realize what they're gettin into certainly the banker/mortgager/lawyer/real estate agent knows. Do we believe in buyer beware? because that is the ethos we used to steal the land from native americans. We gotta be better than that. No? In any event education is a driving force in an improved economy/standard of living. We must as a society make sure it is affordable because....... ready?....... If you think education is expensive you should see how much uneducated people costs. It is short sighted. it is self destructive as a society to have people go uneducated. When we created the GI bill to educate vets after wwII it was called welfare but it created the most powerful middle class in the 1950's. Get with it man. Support OWS. Vote out anti pell grant expansion politicians

[-] -1 points by RealityTime (-224) 2 years ago

Vets earned it, what's your story?

You'll never have a very good life if everything is always someone else's fault. Radical: Read what you sign. Crazy: Know that borrowing money needs to be repaid. Shocking: Default doesn't make things yours, paying for things make them yours.

More subsidy just means more inflation. There's plenty of money for education, now our educated just need to use those brains when they spend it. That's the least taxpayers deserve to ask of them before they cough up more cash.

[-] 4 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

a decent educated population serves the entire country! Uneducated citizens hurt the whole country. It is an investment! Support OWS. Vote out anti Pell grant expansion politicians

[-] -1 points by RealityTime (-224) 2 years ago

And more subsidy means an even deeper sense of entitlement.

Support OWS, more free shit!

[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Vulgarity! You can't have a civil conversation because you have such weak arguments. OWS doesn't want anything for free. We aren't about entitlement. We are about correcting the criminal redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the 1%. You don't seem to care that they have taken your money. "thankyou sir! may I have another!" LOL.

[-] 1 points by RealityTime (-224) 2 years ago

Maybe I can get a federal grant to help me clean up my language. Clearly, I'm blameless. LOL.

[-] 1 points by CarlosFenito (36) 2 years ago

That's absurd. The Federal government would never spend taxpayer money on any project that worthwhile.

[-] 0 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

OWS doesn't look for hand outs. They do not feel blameless. In fact we want the criminals who crashed the world economy, and who have rigged the system against the 99% to be held accountable for their crimes. They are to blame for their crimes. and they should be prosecuted. In addition the system must be reformed to serve the 99%.! BAM!

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[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

What wedge issue.? how about just issues? I do not subscribe to your definition of these issues as wedges. maybe a wedge between the 1% & the 99%. Where do you stand.? Speak up? What issue do you care about?

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[-] 1 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

I dont know what your talkin about. What specific issue do they agree on?

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[-] 1 points by bopollo (14) 2 years ago

I'm truly sorry that you got caught in that. I totally disagree with that attack, and I think it was shameful for the movement. I think most of my comrades agree.

The movement went beyond tuition some time ago. The strike was called on the tuition increase, and that's what the media's been focusing on, but it was never just a question of not wanting to pay more money.

Really, it's a question of priorities. With municipal and provincial government in Quebec that most people regard as thoroughly corrupt and in the pockets of big business, it's appalling to suggest that we need to lighten the taxpayer's burden by cutting money for an already strained education system, while simultaneously asking students to take on more debt.

The students aren't the only ones being affected by this, it touches every facet of Quebec society, sometimes in different ways, but always leading back to the same issues of corruption. It just took a little time for people to figure that out.

Last night's casserole march was one of the most beautiful things I've seen in my life, but it got very little mention in mainstream media. But tonight's going to be massive, and I think it's going to spread beyond Quebec.

[-] 4 points by Odin (583) 2 years ago

'Vive le Quebec libre!'

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[-] 1 points by bopollo (14) 2 years ago

Once we've taken care of things a bit up here we'll barter for some decent pizza.

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