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Forum Post: "Fringe" candidate receives 41% in primary election

Posted 1 year ago on Aug. 9, 2012, 12:39 a.m. EST by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai
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Bill Roberts, member of the LaRouche national candidates slate, received 41% of the votes in Tuesday night's primary election (August 7) in Michigan's 11th Congressional District. Roberts issued this statement following the vote:

By the time the polls closed last night, 41% of Democratic voters in Michigan's 11th district, over 15,000 voters, decided to choose me as their candidate for United States House of Representatives. I congratulate and thank everyone who gave me their vote and supported the campaign. Not only did many people vote who probably would not have otherwise, but by supporting my campaign as part of a National Slate of Candidates, voters in Michigan were able to participate directly in catalyzing the fight to shape policy in the nation's capitol.

Given the fact that my primary opponent made his support for President Obama's Affordable Care Act, and my desire to impeach Obama, the only issues in this race, (refusing to openly debate any policy issues), this election result unmistakeably demonstrates that a large portion of Michigan's Democratic voters do not want Barack Obama to be their President. This is consistent with presidential primary results in other states, where as many as 40% of Democrats rejected Obama and voted for “anyone but him.” This should send a clear message to Democratic Party delegates: dump Obama from the ticket now and nominate a candidate who is committed to the future of mankind.

A clear example of what it means to fight for the future of mankind can be seen in the victory achieved by NASA in successfully landing the Curiosity rover on the surface of Mars. This breathtaking success is a positive demonstration of why we must fight for human creativity, and science, against the evil and backwardness of the science-hating Obama Administration. I am not only referring to the miracle in engineering achieved by the landing, but also to the years-long fight to preserve the commitment to human progress and oppose the paralyzing budget cuts that have threatened to destroy NASA's revolutionary role as an agency at the forefront of scientific knowledge. This mission paves a clear pathway for mankind's coming role as a species on other planets.

With the threat of thermonuclear World War III looming, and a hyper-inflationary economic breakdown crisis on our doorstep, mankind's future now depends on Congress going back to D.C., and convening an emergency session to remove Obama and instate a full economic recovery program. That threefold recovery plan must include: 1) the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall, 2) the establishment of a National Bank for the issuance of credit for large scale development programs and 3) the construction of the NAWAPA XXI project to re-orient our economy as a whole toward the progress to be made by scientific and technological breakthroughs.



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[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13707) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I'm not finding confirmation on this via google -

What I did find was this:

Local GOP leaders threw their support behind Nancy Cassis, a former state senator who spent $200,000 of her own money on a last-minute write-in campaign. But Bentivolio, a former teacher and reindeer farmer who was already on the ballot, easily won what he called "a great victory for the grass roots."

"It is a congressman's No. 1 job to protect our freedom, not take it away," he said. "We've taken a first step here in Michigan."

Democrats will counter with Syed Taj, a doctor and Canton Township trustee who defeated Bill Roberts, a supporter of political extremist Lyndon LaRouche.

So - you aren't saying Roberts won? Just that he garnered 41% of the vote?

[in a three way contest 41% might be enough to win, or force a runoff]


from here:


[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Yes, but not bad for supporters of a "political extremist", eh?

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13707) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

The Tea Party has actually managed to elect candidates.

I wouldn't get too self congratulatory - how ever heartening or even valuable such a result might seem, the probability in my view remains -

this will demonstrate to neoliberals that opposition to their policies are not yet insurmountable, and if they are allowed to cling to power as the climate changes, creating one medium to large sized crisis after another, then what do you suppose will happen once true calamity strikes?

They will make their move, and all of our hopes of liberty will be extinguished. A kind of economic fascism will be enthroned, and we will all be truly enslaved.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

That's not an uncommon opinion these days.

However, in the past, our organization has managed to elect candidates, we're getting close to doing it again.

Yes, as you say, they could produce crisises large and small, not to mention "the big one", a global nuclear war triggered out of the middle east.

But I think there still is hope. A major banking faction recently came out in favor of Glass Steagall, surely not out of the goodness of their hearts, but to save their own skins.

This has resulted in positive media coverage for Glass Steagall in mainstream US publications recently, such as New York Times, LA Times, etc.

Nothing decisive, just some encouraging news.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13707) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Yes, as you say, they could produce crisises large and small, not to mention "the big one", a global nuclear war triggered out of the middle east.

I'm afraid you don't get my point.

they don't need to create crises

The drought grew by 7% in the month of July - we already have crisis.

This shit can turn quite desperate over night -

[-] -1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

I'm well aware of that. All of our infrastructure is old, broken down and in many cases incapable of responding to looming natural disasters.

But while those disasters could be devastating to regions, I don't think that individually they would mean the end of the world as we know it, like a nuclear war could.

Who knows, maybe a little desperation could help?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13707) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Katrina was regional. That displaced upwards of a million people?

The drought we are currently in has the capacity to adversely affect not just the American consumer, and do so through corn prices.


Warmest 12-month period for fourth month in a row

Drought spreads to nearly 63 percent of contiguous states

By Deborah Zabarenko

WASHINGTON, Aug 8 (Reuters) - July was the hottest month in the continental United States on record, beating the hottest month in the devastating Dust Bowl summer of 1936, the U.S. government reported on Wednesday.

It was also the warmest January-to-July period since modern record-keeping began in 1895, and the warmest 12-month period, eclipsing the last record set just a month ago, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said.

This is the fourth time in as many months that U.S. temperatures broke the hottest-12-months record.

The average temperature for July across the contiguous 48 states was 77.6 degrees F (25.3 degrees C), or 3.3 degrees F (1.7 degrees C) above the 20th century average. The previous warmest July, in 1936, averaged 77.4 degrees F (25.2 degrees C).

Along with record heat, drought covered nearly 63 percent of the 48 contiguous states, according to NOAA's Drought Monitor, with near-record drought conditions in the Midwest, where 75 percent of the U.S. corn and soybean crops are grown.

Analysts expect the drought, the worst since 1956, will yield the smallest corn crop in six years, meaning record-high prices and tight supplies. It would be the third year of declining corn production despite large plantings.

The government will make its first estimate of the fall harvest on Friday. It already has cut projections for corn yields by 12 percent due to hot, dry weather in the Farm Belt.

. . .

Sharp price increases the United States, the world's largest grower and exporter of these two commodity crops, have sparked global concern over potential increases in food prices after a similar surge led to food riots in dozens of countries in 2008.


When you make a silly assed statement like "maybe a little desperation could help?" it seems obvious you have no idea what kind of human suffering you are advocating.

a little desperation brings us administrations like Bush / Cheney.

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Well, I really don't want to see people suffer, but most people are still pretty apathetic. It just seems like suffering is the only thing that gets people active sometimes.

I've been trying to warn people about imminent disaster for years, and most of them, rich or poor, just didn't give a damn enough to do the slightest thing about it. And now there's the potential that we'll all suffer and maybe die for it.

Its unfortunate, but sometimes people only change when things get desperate, like an alcoholic hitting bottom, or when someone doesn't work and then has to get a job because he's desperate.

I'm not advocating it, I and others have advocated preventing this disaster for years now and people didn't listen. Now maybe they'll have no choice but to listen.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

it would be hilarious to see both the repub and democrat conventions dump Romney and Obama

That would be a dream world. I have a dream.

Also I don't really see a nuclear war happening anytime soon... at least not one where we are the target.

But that NAWAPA 21 is some interesting stuff. Has it been analyzed by outside sources?

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Yes, we share a dream, and I do hope you are right about the nuclear war.

I believe the idea for NAWAPA was originally developed by the army corp of engineers, and came closest to being implemented during JFK's administration. Wikipedia has a bit more on it:


[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

yeah I read a little into it and watched a couple of videos on it. It seems like a bad ass idea.

Not only would it create jobs for the future but the overall project would create tons of jobs to build. The only potential problems I saw would be funding, since we have a retarded monetary policy.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Yes, well, that could change if we get Glass Steagall passed.

[-] 0 points by foreeverLeft (-264) 1 year ago

The magnitude of Obama's defeat will be historic.

[-] 3 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Yes, but let's hope its before the election, so we have someone better to run against Romney.