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Forum Post: Foster care, Child "Protective" nightmare of human rights abuse

Posted 10 years ago on Dec. 14, 2011, 2:04 a.m. EST by alouis (1511) from New York, NY
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Perhaps Occupiers could visit NY Family Courts and discover how abusive the system that purports to protect children is.



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[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 10 years ago

Those three links barely scratch the surface of what is a huge, and largely unknown, problem in this country. It's far worse than most people would believe. Many states get funding based on how many children are run through the system, essentially turning CPS into a for-profit business trafficking in children. Children have literally been sold as slaves, sometimes to rich foreigners who take the children overseas. People have been murdered that have tried to correct this horrific injustice.

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 10 years ago

I know it's very bad. I used to work in the system. I thought I could function as a good guy but the system doesn't tolerate that. I know that the victims of the system are the most suppressed. They have absolutely no voices. Either they are poor children or poor parents accused and marked as child abusers. It is one tough nut to crack. I brought it here because I hope that OWS could consider at some time looking at this problem and making an issue of it. The victims couldn't be more 99%.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 10 years ago

They are the epitome of the 99%. I reiterate, it's a largely unknown problem. I just learned of it myself recently, through a link on this website actually. It's definitely a problem that needs to be addressed, but once again, there are powerful forces at work that would just as soon people didn't find out about it. I just made a note of this post and Wexler's book so I can put something about it on another site, to keep the idea from getting lost in the shuffle. There's, literally, a laundry list of things that need to be done to get this country on track. We have a lot of work to do, don't you think?

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 10 years ago

It's fairly widely known and understood in the poorest parts of New York, but it's understood and felt by people who cannot effectively make themselves heard. I wish your efforts well.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 10 years ago

Article 5 convention NOW!

This is what happens when we give our lives over to corporations. Including the incorporated United States or any government that deems itself under it, the way we are allowing things to be run.

The fact that mainstream media refuses to do stories indicates how badly free speech and the notion of free press is diminished.

We need an articvle 5 convention and congress has been SO in violation of the constitution for 100 years that we are now in seriosu trouble. We must demand and article 5 convention to abolish abusive governments. The Declaration of Independance.

--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 10 years ago

Occupy is not ready imho to launch such a project. As of now Tea Party is better organized, has lots of money and would take over such a convention with very frightening results, I'd imagine.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 10 years ago

Article 5 NOW!

Correct, occupy won't even discuss article 5 publically. Privately I know it must be an interesting proposal but might go againsy their funding sources.

Legally under the constitution no such thing can happen, and the TP is misinformed on Article 5 anyway. This proposal for preparatory amendment to a convention will deal with the issue COMPLETELY. It will also serve as permanent protection against media manipulation, non feasance and malfeasance.


[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 10 years ago

I made this post in order to point out a crisis affecting tens of thousands of the 99% - the abusive foster "care"/"child protective" system.

[-] 1 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 10 years ago

Correct. The entire system at each foundation is broken. It, we, us, our society can only overcome this with article 5. The situation is much worse than you know, yet. Media does not tell you truth and there is an active infiltration of internet social groups, sites, networks working to prevent proper cognition and agreement.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/09/1024519/-Threats-from-the-Invisible-Industry?showAll=yes&via=blog_481394 http://politics.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/ http://boingboing.net/2011/02/18/hbgarys-high-volume.html http://revolutionmessaging.com/2011/09/21/how-to-weed-out-astroturf-identifying-fake-public-support/ http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/16173.html http://veracitystew.com/2011/02/25/astroturfing-the-season-of-disinformation-video/ http://www.cbc.ca/news/technolo

To deal with foster care, eventually, and that means sooner, we must fist develop the sophistication to know each others motives and those opposing lawful reason with actions protecting the future generations.

Logically, and this IS logical strategy, our opposition would never support useful information for change or ending a secret agenda presidents mentioned.


The proposal for an Article 5 convention is a functional strategy for testing posters on web forums. Anyone that will rationally discuss laws and common knowledge social strategy for action defending the the constitution is actually in support of the constitution.

There is misinfo on article 5 and wiki has changed this page since I've been pointing this out here.



Congress has discretion as to which method of ratification should be used.

Article 5 says this.

"Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress;"

MAY . . . not "shall".