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Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 10, 2011, 10:39 p.m. EST by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA
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I wonder if the simple misinformed minds on here can stay on topic and discuss these facts....only these facts......no 9/11....no zionists....no bible.....this is in essance, the cheese in the trap.

Goldman Sachs

Federal taxpayer bailout funds received: $814 billion

Profits for the years 1996-2010: $76.2 billion

Profits since bailout (2009-2010): $21.7 billion

2010 CEO Lloyd Blankfein pay: $13.2 million

2010 bonuses and compensation: $15.4 billion

Bonuses and compensation for top 5 execs last 10 years: $1.0 billion

Offshore subsidiaries in tax havens: 29

Lobbying since bailout (2009-2010): $11.2 million

Political contributions in 2008 & 2010 federal elections: $8.4 million

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[-] 2 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago

Goldman Sachs

Federal taxpayer bailout funds received: $814 billion

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

sorry,,but no..not unless you have some sort of fact to back it up. I believe by offering us MORE we would say ya, he's with us...sorry dude....bye bye

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago
[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

I apologize Bro.......thanx

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 12 years ago

essance= essence? Just asking for clarification.

[-] 1 points by notforsale (19) 12 years ago

Thank you

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

as I thought..no arguement to fact

[-] 1 points by afarmer (65) 12 years ago

Pulson said the banks had to take the bailouts, though many banks didn't want the bailout money. This was to hide which banks were paying the corrupt leaders. http://www.businessinsider.com/uncovered-tarp-docs-reveal-how-paulson-forced-banks-to-take-the-cash-2009-5

Obama refused repayments from banks: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123879833094588163.html

Example: Remember the housing crash (the cause for the bailouts) - well back in the Nineties, the government changed the laws that once prohibited banks from giving sub-prime loans (loan sharking), and in fact forced banks to give these loans to people who could not afford it. Then groups like ACORN (Pres. Obama worked for at the time) would go to poor people, often time minorities, and tell them that they can now own their own house. If the banks would refuse to give out sub-prime loans, ACORN would scream racism and the government would put pressure on the banks. The banks would cave in, ACORN gets paid and walks away. They were creating chaos for the future. How did Rahm Emanuel put it, "You never want a crisis to go to waste.". How do we change things - Well, there will always be businessmen and women who will want to pay a politicians to change/make a law and there will always be corruptible politicians - So we must elect those people who are incorruptible - libertarians are very principled in freedom and less government, just saying. Here's some things the "media" doesn't want to tell you: http://www.mediacircus.com/2008/10/obama-sued-citibank-under-cra-to-force-it-to-make-bad-loans/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJY2PCy6FgI&feature=player_embedded#!

Maybe their actions were illegal once before, but under the current laws, they are legal now. There in lies the problem - the people who make/change the laws - the government.

[-] 2 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

The left believes that the government is bent over the desk taking it from behind. The right believes that big business is bent over the desk taking it from behind. The truth is that big government/business has the voter bent over the desk giving it to them from behind because the voter keeps voting them into Congress. The President is useless when rapers are in charge of CONgress. Excuse my vulgarness it is just better imagery.

[-] 2 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

Well, all of it is Treason according to common law, and the highest law of the land, The Constitution for the United States of America. Statutes, codes, legislation bleh bleh bleh.

BTW... Obama has accepted more wall street money, since the start of the republican primaries, than all of the republican candidates combined.

Whooda thunkit?

[-] 1 points by notforsale (19) 12 years ago

Oust his ass.....we need to have a write in for the next election and it will not be anyone currently running...who should it be? We have had enough bullshi*

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

Kinda racist....but to answer your question how do we change things.....OWS....this is just the start.

[-] 1 points by afarmer (65) 12 years ago

Meet the one of the puppet masters of OWS, Stephen Lerner, Former SEIU Exec. Here'S the plan in his own words in March of this year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQQiFW2YDLM&feature=related

According to White House visitor logs, “Stephen Lerner” has visited the White House four times over the past two years. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/uncovered-did-the-leftist-encouraging-economic-terrorism-have-access-to-obamas-white-house/

[-] 1 points by bereal (235) 12 years ago

I followed this plan since spring. And yet the OWS members think this is a "spontaneous, grass roots movement with no leaders". They are all just useful idiots.

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

The blaze?? Really? Real reputable! LMAO. And the hacked you tube voice recording? Real good sources. I smell a rat about to take the cheese...you...bye

[-] 1 points by jbob (74) 12 years ago

You dumb douchebags got to know that if we didn't bail out Goldman Sachs we would be totally fucked. There would not be an American economy. We would be worse off than we are now. I'm glad that my tax dollars are going to keep this country going. I wish they weren't going to lazy fucks like you.

[-] 1 points by orz (83) 12 years ago

Say, we needed to bail them out. But we aren't lazy for recognizing, reading laboriously about Credit Default Obligations, Credit Default Swaps... we're lazy if we don't prevent this charade from happening again. If we let banks compete with each other over assets with AAA ratings that have higher interest returns than others, they must accept the paradigm and sell the toxic assets, and factor in their too-big-to-fail status while they act as individuals, playing the game, looking to maximize their short-term capital return.

We're too lazy if we let them keep throwing money at politicians to de-regulate the market. If there are laws, it changes the game, and they aren't obligated in the pursuit of returns to accelerate the demise of our economy.

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

Good point...but please stay to the post theme

[-] 1 points by orz (83) 12 years ago

Do you want me to talk about how Paulson orchestrated the bailout from inside the white house? I mean, yeah Goldman Sachs has the US by the balls, but from the information you posted, it doesn't mean anything without some context.

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

This post is for all the people who claim there is no problem. And the nuts that then reply to posts telling us how zombies are being created from facebook or how jewish bankers contributed to the nazis and fueld their own demise...or some nut from Nutley, NJ telling me I am lazy.....not anything what OWS stands for. I want a few people to tell us why we are wrong for being pissed about GS....

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

Another rat in the trap

[-] 1 points by jbob (74) 12 years ago

Good comeback. I'm hammered and I can think better than you.

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

As the trap slams shut

[-] 1 points by jbob (74) 12 years ago

Idk what your are talking about.

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

I am not surprised

[-] 0 points by bereal (235) 12 years ago

Is this the only line you know? You've posted it a hundred times already. Try a Google search on "witty one liners".

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

Shall I say you are another dumb fuck that can argue a few simple facts, intelligentaly? I am trying to be polite. But your words speak for themselves. Try a google search on how to think for yourself, do some research and come to a conclusion. Unless you can argue the facts I posted, I will no longer reply.

[-] 0 points by bereal (235) 12 years ago

"Shall I say you are another dumb fuck that can argue a few simple facts, intelligentaly?"

You spelled "intelligently" wrong. Just sayin'....

[-] 1 points by barb (835) 12 years ago

As the U.S. crumbles, stay tuned!

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

Only if there is no change

[-] 0 points by aries (463) from Nutley, NJ 12 years ago

yea - this is all holding you back from having a decent job. get a life

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

Another rat caught in the trap...cant argue the post intelligantly,,,or at all actually....bye bye

[-] 0 points by aries (463) from Nutley, NJ 12 years ago

you cant take responsibility for your life. you arte a loser. good luck to yuou

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

you too.

[-] 0 points by betuadollar (-313) 12 years ago

You left out the Internet. Because ultimately it was the Net that was responsible for virtually all of this the incredible growth through the use of the electronic transaction. Technology is once again on the verge of multiplying our ability tenfold.

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

Ah,,I knew you would show up eventually

[-] 0 points by betuadollar (-313) 12 years ago

Well the greater the volume drives the market.

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[-] 0 points by Doc4the99 (591) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

Henry Paulson, former CEO of GS... don't forget...Henry Merritt "Hank" Paulson, Jr. (born March 28, 1946) is an American banker who served as the 74th United States Secretary of the Treasury. He previously served as the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Goldman Sachs. Bailout for his buddies...

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

Another fine example of the power structure we are fighting...thanks!

I have a feeling this is going to be a quiet tread......the bots and haters run from facts!

[-] 0 points by Doc4the99 (591) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

for closures for everybody else...

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2011/12/2011121074125944352.html

"The banks have said, leave us deregulated, we know how to run things, don't put government in to meddle. Then with that freedom of maneuver they took huge gambles, and even made illegal actions, and then broke the world system. As soon as that happened then they rushed out to say 'bail us out, bail us out, if you don't bail us out, we're too big to fail, you have to save us'. As soon as that happened, they said 'oh, don't regulate us, we know what to do'. And they almost went back to their old story, and the public is standing there, amazed, because we just bailed you out how can you be paying yourself billions of dollars of bonuses again? And the bankers say, 'well we deserve it, what's your problem'? And the problem that the Occupy Wall Street and other protesters have is: you don't deserve it, you nearly broke the system, you gamed the economy, you're paying mega fines, yet you're still in the White House you're going to the state dinners, you're paying yourself huge bonuses, what kind of system is this?

When I talk about this in the United States, I'm often attacked, 'oh, you don't believe in the free market economy', I say, how much free market can there be? You say deregulate, the moment the banks get in trouble, you say bail them out, the moment you bail them out, you say go back to deregulation. That's not a free market, that's a game, and we have to get out of the game. We have to get back to grown-up behaviour."

Jeffrey Sachs, Columbia University

[-] 1 points by aries (463) from Nutley, NJ 12 years ago

why do you fail to mention the role of fannie & freddie guaranteeing the loans as the govt forces banks to lower lending standards to make homes affordable to those who would otherwise not qualify. see community reinvestment act & talk to Barney Frank

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 12 years ago

why do you continue to tow a party line instead of admitting you and he are both correct and this sh!t needs to stop. Freddie or Citi, choose your poison but it's all the same to me.

[-] 1 points by aries (463) from Nutley, NJ 12 years ago

don't forget the CRA & Barney Frank insistence on lowering lending standards in the name of equality. go occupy Barney Frank !

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 12 years ago

i occupy from home. far from any protest and got two kids. i run a movement based news site instead. don't forget the excessive pay to the new head of freddie.

[-] 1 points by aries (463) from Nutley, NJ 12 years ago

yea - I agree - about the excessive pay to freddie also the union bosses vacationing in the caribbean - why are they not being occupied ?

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) 12 years ago

occupy their vacations! hell yes.

[-] 1 points by gregb325 (133) from Scranton, PA 12 years ago

Well said!! let the world read this post and know what we stand for!

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