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Forum Post: Focus the Demands on Ending Corporate Manipulations Of Government

Posted 10 years ago on Oct. 4, 2011, 9:31 a.m. EST by jfwenger (2)
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We all know there are plenty of things to fix in this country. But there's a reason why this protest is occurring on Wall St, and not in DC: because the target is a body of corrupt corporations and other members of the 1%, not the government agencies they have bribed and manipulated. It's a protest against the members of the 1% who have manipulated the market in order to get insanely wealthy at the expense of the 99%, and then manipulated the government for hundreds of billions in bailout money when the bubble burst.

So then, it seems fitting that the demands of such a protest be focused on changing the relationship of the 1% with the government so that they can no longer do what they’ve been doing. These recommendations are not directly targeting the myriad problems on the surface, which would take far too long, but instead are focusing on the root of the problems:

1) Put an end to corporate personhood and with it, any possibility for corporations to contribute to political campaigns

2) Create new legislation for both the SEC and the Fed that prevents the creation of artificial market bubbles that the super-rich can ride to inordinate profits at the expense of the rest of the nation.

3) Enact strict policies prohibiting public-private collusion in all government institutions susceptible to corporate pressure, such as the FDA, the USDA, the EPA, etc. (Perhaps a quarterly audit of the personal finances of every decision making member of these institutions.)

4) Prevent the corporate influence of the law by creating better policies for how laws are created, where a) the names and associations of every person who actually wrote the law are publically disclosed, and b) Congressional members go on record before voting to clarify whether or not they have actually read the bill they intend to vote on, and c) unrelated “riders” tacked onto the end of a bill should not be permitted. Under these new conditions, laws written by a demonstrably biased private influence and unread by many representatives should be subject to appeal.

These changes may seem abstract to you at first, but if you take a moment to study what they’re doing, you’ll realize that, if passed, they would significantly reduce the usurpations of public power by private corporations.

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[-] 1 points by ExasperatedCitizen (3) from Alameda, CA 10 years ago

These are excellent ideas and I believe should be part of any framework put forth by this group. The reversal of case law granting corporations not just the protected status of incorporation but also the protected rights of an individual makes it virtually impossible to have anything resembling equal representation in this country.

[-] 1 points by user12357 (4) 10 years ago

This is easy www.getthemoneyout.com

[-] 1 points by tribalscribal (7) 10 years ago

Respect the Rights of Nature (end corporate commodification of the planet)

[-] 1 points by drmcollins (7) 10 years ago

It is time to break out the pitch forks and march on the big corporations and the Republicans and Democrats that support themIt is time to break out the pitch forks and march on the big corporations and the Republicans and Democrats that support them

[-] 1 points by bucky (3) 10 years ago

You turds are nerds. What about the corruption of companies like GE &Geoff Inmelt (oblowme's buddy) who pays NO taxes? Then he proceeds to cut US jobs, sends the jobs to Mexico and now we have to buy MERCURY-FILLED HAZMAT lightbulbs at 3x the price from China. Then he and his corrupt buddy oblowme laugh on TV about how there aren't really any "shovel ready jobs" I don't get it. 'Splain it to me, LUCY.

Don't get me wrong - I want a much smaller gvt but I prefer CAPITALISM. That's how I've been able to feed myself and family. Not thru gubbamint handouts.

[-] 1 points by jfwenger (2) 10 years ago

Bucky, you seem to be arguing both sides a little bit here. What's your recommendation, exactly?

[-] 1 points by bucky (3) 10 years ago

You turds are nerds. What about the corruption of companies like GE &Geoff Inmelt (oblowme's buddy) who pays NO taxes? Then he proceeds to cut US jobs, sends the jobs to Mexico and now we have to buy MERCURY-FILLED HAZMAT lightbulbs at 3x the price from China. Then he and his corrupt buddy oblowme laugh on TV about how there aren't really any "shovel ready jobs" I don't get it. 'Splain it to me, LUCY.

Don't get me wrong - I want a much smaller gvt but I prefer CAPITALISM. That's how I've been able to feed myself and family. Not thru gubbamint handouts.

[-] 1 points by bucky (3) 10 years ago

You turds are nerds. What about the corruption of companies like GE &Geoff Inmelt (oblowme's buddy) who pays NO taxes? Then he proceeds to cut US jobs, sends the jobs to Mexico and now we have to buy MERCURY-FILLED HAZMAT lightbulbs at 3x the price from China. Then he and his corrupt buddy oblowme laugh on TV about how there aren't really any "shovel ready jobs" I don't get it. 'Splain it to me, LUCY.

Don't get me wrong - I want a much smaller gvt but I prefer CAPITALISM. That's how I've been able to feed myself and family. Not thru gubbamint handouts.

[-] 1 points by wallwillie (39) from Hunter, NY 10 years ago

Corporate Free Speech There needs to be better corporate representation. Money is speech. Every individual, even individual stockholders, "ownership," has a right to free speech. Free speech means no one can force or prevent an individual's speech. Ownership has the right to direct the corporation's speech and political contributions. Majority control of contributions may violate an individual's free speech. Corporate management can speech for the corporation, but ownership needs to authorize that speech. No speech or money spent on political contributions may be made without ownership authorization and such contributions must be taken from the individual's dividends. No dividends means there is no allowance for contributions. Corporate management must poll the ownership to determine the amount and placement of all individual stockholder directed contributions. The assignment of all corporate contributions must be made public so that ownership can verify the correct placement of their contributions. Management can not make contributions on the behalf of nonresponsive ownership and thus can only make contributions for which they have been directly authorized.

Money is speech. Corporations are people, because people get the money. Free speech means people are not forced to pay for someone else's speech. Corporations may not force to pay or deny dividends, to a person who does not approve of money spent on speech. Corporations may only spend money on speech that is taken, by approval, from the people who get the money. Every person who gets money, from the corporation, must approve the money spent on speech, in order to protect the right to free speech. Since the money spent on speech is identifiable with a person then that money is subject to caps associated with that person and must be reported. Also, tax consequences flow, to each person, for tax exempt contributions. If the corporation feels that the cost of polling and reporting the money spent on speech is prohibitive, then the corporation is prohibited from spending on speech. Corporations spend money on product ads and any political placement in a product ad must have unanimous consent of ownership.

[-] 1 points by kestrel (274) 10 years ago

what about government manipulations of corporations?

[-] 1 points by shrimpster (7) 10 years ago

In most cases government manipulation of corporations is backed by corporations wanting to manipulate the free market to their favor.

[-] 1 points by MyHeartSpits (448) 10 years ago

The government is employed by corporations, so perhaps the one you're referring to just needs to hire a government official or ten.

[-] 1 points by jfwenger (2) 10 years ago

Start a march and make your demands! You can't put the whole world on one Christmas list. This march is about corporate manipulations of government.

[-] 1 points by success (19) 10 years ago

Exactly! You are definitely right on target. I wish we could have a thread to discuss this list https://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/

[-] 1 points by kestrel (274) 10 years ago

These demands just replace one with the other.