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Forum Post: FLINT, Michigan still standing

Posted 8 years ago on March 17, 2012, 9:18 p.m. EST by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA
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FLINT, Michigan -- After surviving the cold of winter and some recent scrutiny from police, Occupy Flint activists claim they have the last standing Occupy campsite in the state.

And they don't plan on going anywhere soon.

The group remains entrenched in their outdoor command center just north of downtown.

The private lot -- equipped with solar panels and a bicycle generator -- makes the campsite more sustainable than the public spaces that groups in other cities have occupied.




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[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8706) 8 years ago

Well General Motors gutted Flint so badly when they shipped their plants to Mexico in the 80's that the occupy tents are probably the highest quality housing left in town.

Ps Want the real story of Flint? Watch "Roger and ME."

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 8 years ago

These guys are probably the best people you will ever meet in your life. I have driven through Flint in the 1990s, and thought it was clearly kind of rough. What is left after the executives leave, and after the jobs go away is 50% good people.

[-] -1 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 8 years ago

But what about Detroit? How is their wonderful progress?

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago
[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

I plan to this summer if things work out.

Detroit has a small, but stable Occupy.

[-] -2 points by uncensored (104) 8 years ago

Flint and Detroit have been run by Democrats for decades. Good job, dems! You made the bottom 10 list once again.

[-] 2 points by bmogreena (19) from Flint, MI 8 years ago

bottom 10 of what? I don't really understand what your talkin. Please elaborate

[-] 1 points by uncensored (104) 8 years ago

Worst economy, crime rate, property values, etc.

[-] 2 points by bmogreena (19) from Flint, MI 8 years ago

k, yah lol no doubt there!

[-] 0 points by uncensored (104) 8 years ago

I was born and raised in Deeeetroit. I left 30 years ago, but I feel your pain.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

I don't want to see guns at demonstrations

[-] 1 points by bmogreena (19) from Flint, MI 8 years ago

I would also like to add this to the mix. Occupy Flint has not been participating in the same way most occupy's are. Our GA has only taken on one act of Civil Disobedience. Other then that we have been acting within the law. Most occupy's have not had to deal with the gun issue at all, as anyone in their right mind understands that guns and civil disobedience do not mix. (it would not be "civil" at the point guns are brought in)

When you say guns endanger us all, you are thinking of your civil disobedience training that I hope you have went through. Guns are the biggest no-no possible at a CD and since most occupys are almost entirely civil disobedience, of course there are no guns, and probably little discussion has even had to go on about this. It makes sense that you feel endangered by occupiers carrying guns. If "occupier" simply means one committing cd then you are right, but if occupy has shifted to describe members of this movement whether or not they are in the act of committing cd, then this is a discussion that I think should be had.

As I note in my longer post below, Occupy Flint has came to consensus decision to NOT have any weapons at any CD that we do. If you have weapons it endangers everyone. THe point of CD is that you are committing crime, having a gun while committing a crime is not only dangerous, the legal ramifications are astronomical for those doing so. Of course there has been no armed protection while people are breaking the law sleeping in parks, it would be blatantly STUPID.

It should be noted that Civil disobedience is simply a tactic. If the tactic is not being used then guns should be no cause for alarm.

In fact, it is almost a JOKE to say occupiers can't carry their guns around if there is no CD happening if we claim to represent the 99%, at least 35% of whom are gun owners and 2nd amendment republican types. This is a type we can not segregate from the 35% that already agree with occupy if our 99% slogan means anything in reality