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Posted 10 years ago on Dec. 13, 2011, 8:17 a.m. EST by iamalsoows (86)
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With the comments I get not only on this above entry I really do believe that OWS and this website is hijacked. Also the forum rules looks to be written by Wall Street itself by the 1%.

Mike Ruppert tried for years to awaken people and nobody listened. Still the same. People have their own agenda like having some fun and getting their 15 minutes of fame demonstrating or finding a mate etc. Nothing really of importance.

I do not advocate anyone or believe in Mike Ruppert but even this guy was a genuine "OWS" and the comments really points in one direction; no-one really cares a shit.

The Arab spring has been hijacked and it is all back to normal. Same goes with OWS and all the other Occupiers out there. Nothing is really going to be occupied and in about 1-2 years from now it will all be forgotten and just be an entry in Wikipedia.

You are on your own and nobody really gives a shit about the community or the human race. All is fighting their own little battle and Wall Street and governments are laughing.

And I will fight for myself because not a single soul is neither listening or taking action - really. Hoax society and stupid ignorant live stock is what the very few smart people are up against and the real few trying to occupy can be counted on two hands.

I have written to numerous organisation incl. press at OWS and no reply. I have written to governments - no reply. I have written and absolutely no response. This tells me what? That everyone is doing their own little gig like Michael Moore and who not. No reply and they use Twitter and Facebook and websites such as this to speak but it just is words and they just vanish into thin air.

See the fruits of all their en-devours and you realize nothing is happening to balance greed, wars, famine and what not.

People are asleep and not 100 books and videos or websites will make an impacts today, tomorrow or ever.

A few might be converted and get the idea or the point of view but eventually they are lullabied into sleep believing something-must-be-happening. It is all an illusion.

I know I will get images attached again and some comments on this debunking or even calling me a grass-smoking idiot or a conspiracy-fool. Great, nothing new under the sun. Man does not change for the better and does not really listen to sense and they will go on into their little cloud of belief, that they are part of a greater idea when in fact they are just nothing and only a number and livestock.

The elite is having the best of times and Zbigniew Brzezinski and such are just having so much fun laughing at it all.

I predict 1-3 replies to this. Tops. Probably none. We are 7 billion people and perhaps 100.000 people visits this site everyday. Maybe 100 will read this entry. I will post it on my own Blogg and various outlets and get zero reply. Get my point?



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[-] 5 points by blazefire (947) 10 years ago

Hi, my name is Chris. I live near Melbourne in Australia. I am writing this to show my unity, and solidarity. I am here because I hope. I WILL NOT go quietly into the night. I will not leave a destroyed planet for our children. I will not be enslaved, or see my fellow man enslaved.

I am here because I hope. And I know. I know that my fellow man wishes this also. Do not despair! The truth of 9/11, pales into insignificance to the truth that it could happen at all. What kind of world do we live in, where anyone could believe that doing that was the best decision to make.

I understand the relevance completely of course, and give my condolences to those who lost loved ones, but I do not think you should get to caught up in it. Afterall, once a problem is identified, we need to develop a solution...we need to hope. Don't worry, this information will spread....you can't stop an idea, but do not be to expectant. People are people, and some will believe it, other won't and still others won't even click the link.

Stand tall my friend! And be proud! You stand for people who don't even know you exist! You stand for those that would kick dirt in your eye. You stand for understanding and truth, and that is to be admired also.

Just think....I am proof that your words have been heard. Across the world.

Dum spiro, spero. Omnia vincit amor. Carpe diem.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Thank you very much. Once people revolt worldwide the elite will hit the red button just like WW1 and 2. No doubt in my mind. The elite are very very sick bastards. http://ponerology.com/




[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

I like the dogs, teddy bears in the TVs in that video.

[-] 1 points by blazefire (947) 10 years ago


[-] -2 points by Karl101 (-6) 10 years ago

Agitate your dog Educate yourself on being a conservative Organise your resume and get a job

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 10 years ago

To all those in foreign countries, like the Australian posting below, who are looking at this site to understand our movement, please understand that this site is now controled by this movements detractors. Such is the power of those we are up against. This is something I hope will be fixed in due time. In the mean time seek out other sources to know what is really going on. We are under congnative assault here. But the word is still spreading, and we will not be destroyed.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Good. I understand the vicious attacks. Keep up the steam. We have people everywhere wanting to hijack our Occupy movements and I know how it feels. Secret agents and hillbillies trying to shut me and everyone else up.

Keep it up. And thank you people of america for finally starting a revolution for the cause of sane humanity.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 10 years ago

I know it's long overdue. Many of us in the U.S. have been marginalized all our lives for trying to stand up for the true spirit of democracy. The "winner take all" two party/one party system is at least partially to blame. This must change. Thanks for the support. Humanity will triumph!

[-] 1 points by HitGirI (-2) 10 years ago

Chest Rockwell is going to lead this movement to the land of hippie utopia.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

He made Hogwash :)

[-] 1 points by Arditum (37) 10 years ago

You criticize people talking without getting anywhere, but all you do yourself is type in front of your screen.

The only certainty in this world is comprised by actions and their results. As long as all you do is criticize everything by typing in the comfort of your room you have no wrth of use. If you are so incensed about the lack of clear objectives or long term results, do like Tibetan monks and set yourself on fire. A martyr will do us a world of good. Much more than your life spent yapping. At least OWS has taken serious action. A prophet of doom can only achieve misery for himself and others. Since, at least nominally, OWS is a movement that overall goes in the direction you want, in that of defeating the big oligarchic powers of the world, try to be supportive, or even take individual action, otherwise you'll always be yet another worthless conspiracy theorist.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

I do other than type. Everyday when I go somewhere I revolt. I take no lip anymore from governments and I use words to fight.

I think doom will come, yes, doom of people wanting a new dawn and it will really take of in 2012.


Doom, I hope doom will come soon. I will speak of doom and doom is good because we need doom.

But please understand the word - doom - before you use it as a negative.

Worthless - oh dear. Nothing is worthless not even money; they can light candles, clean your nose, wipe asses, look nice in a picture frame...

[-] 1 points by 666isMONEY (348) 10 years ago

Funny U mentioned that because a few minutes before I was thinking of Googling "Gloom & Doom" to see if anyone made a magazine or blog like that about how bad things are going in this world: Global warming, peak Oil, Funny Money, geometric World Population Growth, etc. My grandfather said i was all "gloom & doom," that was 30-years ago, lol.

[-] 2 points by blazefire (947) 10 years ago
[-] 2 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

It is the same old shit. Nothing is new and nothing will change. We are living in a constant doom world and Hollywood knows this but people believe in romance and shit like that. They do not live in reality. Actually I want to Occupy a bloody Comet and steer it right at Earth to shake up things just a little. just a little so lazy idiot might wake up. But I think they will just sit there and ask "ups, what was that, my left arm is broken".

Why was Doom by Activision so popular... go figure.

Gloom and doom is good. I want more gloom and doom and not silly stupid people believing in Disney-fucking-land-kind-of-life.

Revolutions are man made gloom and doom to avoid gloom and doom and later gloom and doom pops up again.

People are sleepwalking but they think they are awake. I have no idea how to wake them up and I really don't care. They can sleep as much as they like. I am probably asleep living in a gloom and doom nightmare believing I am alive in hell on earth which is actually not earth but a planet called Doom and I was put here as a zombie doing what I do believing I am free. Hogwash.

They threw an atom bomb in Hirochima and they are still sleeping. Also still sleeping after World war 2 - same old shit nothing changed...really.

[-] 1 points by 666isMONEY (348) 10 years ago

Some good Gloom & Doom dystopian post-apocalyptic Hollywood movies: Mad Max, Contagion.


No doubt there are ppl out there who would spread a disease and then all the plutocrats will escape on their jets & yachts to Paraguay or wherever.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

We are getting there no doubt in my mind. Thanks for telling me about Contagion.

[-] 1 points by Danaan (96) 10 years ago

http://occupymovement99.blogspot.com/2011/12/occupy-movement-exposed.html That is the point and this is where we can change it, from within. The right people gathered with the right knowlegde can make a difference.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

The Platonic influence on Hegel was reinforced by the age in which he worked. Hegel accepted that "enlightened" human beings are responsible for their own destiny, and that culture and history are a product of human development, which in turn is driven by reason. Hegel subscribed to the Rousseauian notion that humans are a blank slate, a tabula rasa. In fact, Hegel was a big fan of the French, including the authoritarian leader Napoleon and the French Revolution itself, a bloodbath he described as the realization of more perfect freedom.

Bloodbath. Probably true.

The video: http://vimeo.com/33373635 - yes, the normal sane people need a counterweight to governments. A quick way to stop government if it turns rotten BEFORE it goes too bad. Before it turns really rotten.

The Occupy School could be a new platform and a new way to educate people and use that school to be a shield against oppression.

[-] 1 points by thebannedbandit (1) 10 years ago

It will be a forgotten page on Wikipedia....

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Metaphor. Many things are never read by the masses and the Occupy movement is, so far, not seen by the masses but by a few. It is still hidden. In Wikipedia many good articles are hidden meaning they are not found because people have no idea what to search for other than Justin Bieber etc.. Unless something would revolutionize this and nothing so far seems to point in that direction. However I do see from some of the comment of this forum that people believe the movement is big and strong and growing. Well, I look out the window and all is the same world unchanged and till occupied by stupid government, rotten police and courts that are as corrupt as ever.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 10 years ago

Don't despair dude we're all suffering from info overload. Have you seen Lee Camp's routine on what if Darwin had been living in this time?


[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Nice dude. Susan Boyle... how the fuck did you know:


Scroll down.

Are you some kind of intelligent Magpie may I ask? If so, lets fly.

[-] 1 points by nolongerasleep (57) from Cleveland, OH 10 years ago

Now you know what it is like... to be an intelligent man among many who are not. Many of the worlds most intelligent men hated humanity.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Intelligence takes us nowhere. Stupidity takes us nowhere. Football or chess is just a game like life and humanity likes it that way. Except the few who wanted to know why, asking questions that never was replied.

"What a wonderful World... I see trees of green, red roses too"... bollocks. All empty old romantic hogwash which worked for a short time like drugs. More drugs is needed so the elite got it in Afghanistan to feed the hungry on Wall Street and main street while the elite enjoys dinners served by naked ladies feeding of others misery.

Life is good; it is like being in a net full of fish and you are on the bottom of the net. Intelligence got me nowhere except to the bottom of the pit or the net. I would rather be a stupid idiot with no brains as a human on this silly planet and I predict my next life will be as a magpie among other magpies. I have a dream... if God lets me. Religious, sure. Why not. Being anything, religious or a hooligan or a drug addict does not support or destroy anything really - it just looks that way to small brained humans who believes that it all (God) really cares one little bit.

Sure I planted a grain at our government and websites etc., but all in all it is like casting seeds at hungry birds. Birds are smart and will eat the seed and fly away A.S.A.P.

Real research; re-search. Again search. No, it is time to stop searching and to use intelligent actions. I saw this video and I believe that is very intelligent and a new way of revolutionize the world:


I am just intelligently curious why it has only been seen 66.000 times. But I understand; one grain here and one grain there... I get the picture. And while I am joyfully entertained I wait for the intelligence to shine through. I have not seen it yet where I roam and ponder but I do sense a rekindle and it feels good.

Dreams do come though sooner or later.

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 10 years ago

So if this is our society, then what does the future hold?

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Look at the past and you will know the future. More wars is a sure thing. Poverty is a sure thing. Too many people is here already and we will be 8 billion in 5-10 years. "It is a broken hallelujah".

Go into your apple yard and see if the fruit is good. The future of your apples depends on the stem of the tree. If bad, you will know the future of your apples next year.

Think of how the simplest of things work and you will be able to predict almost anything.

Also listen to what politicians are really saying and you will know the future.

People think they have freedom but that is obviously an illusion. You are probably mostly free while dreaming and when you wake up you realize the dream was actually better than reality even if you had a nightmare. Many think so. Listen to your dreams and you will also know the future.

The fruits of the past 250 years of democracy has really not produced anything of real value and the fruit is corporations infecting normal people with their vanity for power and money. The only fruit that is still really healthy is the very few on the very top enjoying life with 50 million Dollar yachts floating in warm seas. The rest of the fruit is left on the ground in the future to fertilize the tree for the next years crop. That is what people are - fertilizers of the very rich.

My prediction is that being a worm is better than being an apple because then you can crawl into your hole and you can move and you know your real enemy namely a bird being hungry. You know you are pray and take action on it. Being a rotten apple is very tough.

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 10 years ago

Oh, it won't be that bad. Don't be such a pessimist, I'm sure we'll all be just fine:)

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago



And tell me, please, that the nine year old boy "had it coming!".


Religion. Now tell me "Religious freedom".

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 10 years ago

Yeah, but we've always had war and poverty; they're nothing new. The future is brighter than you know.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Bright future. Brighter. That is relative depending from where you are I suppose. The future is always brighter (they say) but did you know that the future really does not exist because time is like that. Now is never and before is gone. Time is very funny that way.

I want to ask why the future is brighter?

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 10 years ago

Well, we're having technology develope at an accelerating rate, science continues to make amazing discoveries, globalization and the Internet have made our world smaller and our differences less, and currently we live in one of the most peaceful times in our history.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Your writing could have been written in year 1900 or even year 400 and still be "true". Except for The Internet. And believe it, The Internet will be "killed" just like television was and is.

Since 2001 US entered the war on terror and prior they had the cold war using atom bombs to keep things equal. Both wars are and where armed making an impact in all countries around the world killing millions.

Today and since around 1980 US has initiated a war against its own people and they are still only using armed warfare. The drug war has been going on killing millions. it goes on. Sure, it looks cool and calm but that is because people have no idea of reality and do not have open eyes.

Globalization was bigger when the British invaded Australia and India and prior when the Spanish invaded south america etc. it goes on. Today there is only trade globalization and visa regulations - which humans did not have before - makes it difficult to travel free.

Education is rotten to the core. Unless you have lots of money to pay for good school.

Health and sickness is on the rise. Diabetes, obesity, cancer and man made welfare deceases with stress related illnesses makes many societies as sick as during the black plaque.

Since the invention of flying, telephone, steam engine, etc. there really has been no big inventions. It was called the industrial revolution. That is finished now and robots are indeed freeing man from work hence man has no value.

Differences are growing with US being more and more hostile and its politicians are psychopaths: http://ponerology.com


But yes, it is true, people live in make-believe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5I4oY7zj-w

The future looks really dark. Brightness only lasts as long as The Sun shines and humans have no idea of simple concepts.

The most stupid times we are living in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0efLWdJWk4&feature=related


It is a war on stupidity we need. Sadly people have no idea of basics and they are as ignorant as a twelve week old hamburger. Oh, hamburgers was invented in Germany.

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 10 years ago

What about the atomic bomb? That was a pretty significant, or the computer? And how was television "killed" and how is the Internet going to be "killed"?

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Computer and atom bomb are part of the industrial revolution. Both created on top of The Second World War. IBM funded Hitler. Computers where used to calculate the canons projectile path. Atom bomb was used to kill.

Both inventions where invented to terrorize by governments.

They really have no significance but, yes, once invented, will be used. Without them we would have had something else. Think of all the things that are yet not invented. Who misses those things?

Television: was and is used as a propaganda tool of the elite. News are products like any product and ideas and reality is not portrayed and censorship kills all free information. TV series such as "Fiends" are food for idiots and makes peoples minds twisted away from reality. Reality shows are not reality. It is all a lie. Sometimes, still, you do see something that has value but it is far fetched.

Internet: The 197-page bill (PDF) is entitled Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA.

They, the elite, are working on it. The internet will be shut down eventually.

Do you recall newspapers? They got hijacked as well.

Why do you think graffiti is prohibited or controlled?

Why do you think throwing fliers is prohibited?

Why do you think advertising if extremely expensive?

Freedom of speech is prohibited and riot police stops people from using there rights to assemble. Why?

Why do you have gun control?

Same goes with television and internet. Killed or will be killed directly or using misinformation and propaganda as tools. People with an IQ of 100 can not understand and believe in whatever they see or read or watch on TV or Internet.

That is why you have people such as these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q566ys0sqVQ

Most people have no idea of basics. And if they do know basics they have no idea how to connect the dots which we call intelligence. Most peoples IQ is below 100 in the 80th. They might know few things and have specific knowledge in certain fields but it stops there.

However, if there are some smart intelligent people behind OWS and the whole Occupy movement, the future might become brighter. It is going to take some time and effort and lots of reverse propaganda and people have to wake up from their sleepwalking. Then yes, the futures holds something. Better? Not sure. I think so. If we can put away thousands of politicians who are psychopaths and rewrite and eliminate the laws we might see a better future. Occupiers will need to eventually occupy the police, the army, government... everything. It will take some time.

Occupy II has started and it tells me they have a plan. If not we are doomed.

Wait until Occupy VI and we might be seeing some changes.

Education is #1 platform upon which humans can be really free. But education must be free and not involve money. Money corrupts. Education must be open and come from sources that are free and intelligent thinking shall be taught.

Education is #1 key factor. Today our education consists of one-way manipulating malfunctioning one direction systems making people ready for ONE job going in ONE direction paying ONE tax doing the dirty job of the elite. People think they have free choice. Hogwash. There is no real free choice and the elite can pick and choose and pay the media to promote whomever they want.

Once the main media is occupied (and yes good we have the internet) it will speed up. Had we not had the internet we would by now be living in a wonderland of total media control and totally brain-damaged zombies.

The Internet is good because of only one thing; fast access and easy search. The same information can be found in libraries and heavy books making it very difficult and time consuming to read and learn. Other than that what you find on The Internet is elsewhere. And yes The Internet does give us, the people, a way to write as well. This is amazing. That is the first time in human history. But words are symbols and people can write anything. Right or wrong. But even what is wrong, today, may become true tomorrow. So read every single piece of information and use your gut feelings as well and intelligence but please do not debunk anything. Wrongs can be right tomorrow no matter how silly they sound.

But insults shall be taken serious and personal attacks are a sickness we must occupy as well. Every single person has value.

The war on information is on and what I am writing here is part of it. You will be bombarded with other information but until people understand what is really going on we are doomed. I hope there are intelligent people who gather (and for my part they can do it secretly) who have the deep insight into how societies work and knows the real issues and knows where to fix things. They will need to use highly intelligent and sophisticated ideas and pull from many sources to debunk 2000 years of hogwash from sick governments and army rulers, dictators and oligarchs etc.

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 10 years ago

Well why should I believe you? Why should I take your word over CNN or the government? What separates you from them?

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

About what in specific do you mean may I ask? I told you about this: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20007418-38.html how much more truth do you want than a Law giving power to shut down the internet to one man?

I am not sure where you are getting but please explain and I shall try and verify.

Do not believe in anything but do some research and come to a relatively true conclusion. Nothing is absolute but we have to decide a point at which the potatoes are cooked and done ready to eat.

Do not believe in me, please.

Oh, they are looking for dark energy... well, nothing is something, right? I believe, that empty void space is actually just another form of matter just like water or air. We just do not know how to "catch" it or "see" it. Everything is something and I do not believe blindly in science and Nobel price winners because they might be idiots just putting fine words on something they think they can explain.

It was until about 1970th that The Vatican finally agreed the earth was not flat. And The Vatican is still going strong. That tells me people are as stupid as a cooked potato. Or perhaps the earth is neither flat or round but rather oval or what looks round might be untrue. Time will tell. But now we have decided that some things are this or that because we have to believe in something.

We are now entering philosophy and that might be off topic.

PS. Them versus me; well, I think any psychologist would tell you George W Bush has a major mental problem as well as did Truman and many other presidents. In Denmark we have many sick politicians. Here is one idiot:

Starts at about 7:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P4hjhHh4s8

His name is Bertil Haarder and becomes totally crazy. Yes, probably under pressure. But if we have these kind of people in power we have a serious problem.

Bush: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg the man is a pathological idiot.

Here are 3 people who combined have an IQ of 300 and they act as if they have one of 10 (ten): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTTbZ0C9-Ec&feature=related

bush is a War Criminal in Malaysia. Clinton is a total disaster and Obama´s name resembles Osama and his middle name is Hussein.

Osama Bin Laden

Sadam Hussein

Barack Hussein Obama II

Well, go figure. The change of that is a 100 trillion to one unless you have someone in the background planning it all. And there are people planning stuff like this. Nothing is change.

The world really is fucked up and the elite are playing us over and over again.

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 10 years ago

I guess my final point is this: if our future is bleak, what are we to do about it? How will we accomplish it? Peacefully? Through violence? What hope is there that people will accept it? What are the consequences if we fail? What will our world look like if we succeed?

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Education and ending poverty. Those are the two major tools to move ahead.

Peacefully, oh yes, 100%. Violence is absolutely not an option. Intelligent education starting with grassroot-education in every park and on every street. Setting up new NGO schools that educate on topics from other sources than main stream. Educate in music so that children can play at least one instrument by the age of five. Set up theaters where people can act and play using the theater as a way of airing ideas and information.

People of OWS could setup an alternative police force and have there own group of lawyers and an alternative court system. A system within the system until the new system becomes accepted. Do as in Malaysia where THE PEOPLE are the judges and rule and surely the current system will not accept it and will try and fight it but these things are heard eventually.

Setup 10.000 of new domain names bombarding the internet with all the new ideas posting speeches, videos etc etc. Use humor as well.

Use money collected from the 99% to pay for the grassroot movement to kick start.

Avoid as much as possible to use the current system.

Setup a new money system.

Setup a second world order where all the things needed are there but using an alternative method taking the best of things from any country.

Okay, actually, I have the whole darn thing ready for writing and I am collecting stuff as we speak. But not space or room for it here. I do plan a book on the topic in 2012. Hopefully. If I live that long because believe me I have been threatened to "shut up or else...".

Anyway, I have it all figured out and I will be looking for 2-4 writers start of 2012 to get it started. English speaking because I am danish and my English is not good enough. this will not be Gadaffi little green book or Mao's little red book but rather a total system in every detail to kick start and problem solve and educate and create work for every man. All included.

Acceptance: only by taking over many of the functions the current "bad" system provided can you make people accept the new system and it has to be better and provide actual benefits here and now. Can be done.

Fail: Will not fail because it is based on intelligent solutions via education.

Succeed: A new world where we base our society on "back to basics" and where the future will make people so intelligent that they are in peace with themselves in such a way that understanding and tolerance makes for a diverse but still unified society.

Food will become food again and not worse-than-dog food as many eats today.

Government will be closed down because to govern is no longer needed because people are intelligent and educated and can govern locally and globally without actual old style police and governance.

We are all actors on the world stage and some have better parts than others. It is high time to start improvising some more. Jump away from the manuscript. The screenplay is boring and not working anymore. Give screenwriters and writers and actors and musicians a change to write a new story. Succeed: I think so. I think the time is ripe. I se people and they are f.... bored with the current system. Young people might think it is heaven with the latest movies and iPhones but they know they are only looking for the next fix and it only lasts for a few days until they start feeling bored and depressed.

Use the current depression to rewrite history.

It will probably take 50 years or so to see the fruits but it is possible. Better start now than devouring ourselves like the Inka's did or Bush, Cheney and the whole rotten bunch is doing. What are their fruits except wars and famine, drugs and killings? One fruit rotten, all is rotten. no fruits shall be rotten and there is room for everyone and even masons can roam and build but most masons are uneducated themselves and know no better than a 5 year old.

Anyway, not room for it here.

NB. Actors unite, writers unite, doctors unite... all unite. But start with the arts. There are millions of creative people and I even believe Hollywood actors are getting bored with the current state of affairs. The old religious world is obsolete. Rich actors and such have traveled to India etc. to find the truth and I believe by now there is enough combined knowledge to rebuild Earth. Surely the posh and rich live the nice life but I think even they are getting bores easing caviar and ousters and driving Rolls up and down the avenue.

If no change I do believe it will eventually be very very violent. sad and probably true.

And please recall that many have written ideas of society and philosophies before so bring all areas in. I know many do not want this or that and will not agree but this is where a mental new educational system pops up to turn peoples head 360 degrees so heads are not fixed in one angle.

As we can see it is started:




Bonus on education: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0jwG878f3A&feature=related

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 10 years ago

Interesting, well good luck with your education heavy society, perhaps it is the way to go...

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 10 years ago

I don't know who Mike Ruppert is but I do believe we need to Occupy Our Selves, or Occupy Solidarity, make solidarity decisions throughout the day, and encourage others to do so. http://occupywallst.org/forum/what-if-everyone-refused-to-work-for-these-minimum How about we boycott minimum wage and guide and support those who may be affected by this?

We need a clear plan presented to OWS.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 10 years ago

Did you see the Working Group on The 99% Declaration has re-occupied this website, literally?

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 10 years ago

I don't know what Working Group is.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 10 years ago

It's one of the Working Groups on the NYCGA.net site, sorry my above wasn't correct


[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Well, everyone can deny working for a little wage. But they don't. Standing together historically is not an option and does not change anything. Who is Mike Ruppert, well, there you see.

Clear plan? Even with a clear plan the Occupy movement worldwide will get nowhere. People are by law livestock and a social security number on the stock exchange nothing more and nothing less. People have no idea how society works so a fight for minimum wages is like fighting obesity eating only two hamburgers and not three.

I replied to the post on minimum wage.

PS. By now, a post on Mike Ruppert should have gathered momentum and minimum 500 people asking and protesting and doing something... nada.

" please wait 1 minute before making another post" - what a blatant way to say: "listen, you moron, we are in full control and we only give you so much time. Besides, we know already and our forum is only here to pretend being such - a forum - but it is just an air vent and we can only produce so much air flow so we must limit your free speech also because some do SPAM etc. but this is hurting you and that is what the intention is".

With the forum rules it is obvious that these rules are created by 1% and this whole website is a hoax. Look up in your history books and you will know how forums such as this is used historically pretending to be something it really is not.

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 10 years ago

Well, maybe Mike Ruppert should be a separate post. To be honest, I think the truther thing is religiously motivated, I care as much about it as I do watching a video on creationism; for entertainment purposes only, when I have time. Sorry, that's my truth.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

A separate post for what reason other than to say the same namely: "I care less"...

I think this movement is about not really listening and debunking anything. This is also why there is no leaders and no objective and no real issues and no-one is really advocating anything.

Truth-er thing; Exactly. it seems that the Occupy movement is advocating that there is no truth and all is just up for debate. Words are as empty as ever.

[-] -2 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 10 years ago

Truthers are not welcomed by Occupy. If you're a Truther and that hurts your little heart, then pull up your pants and go away. There are tons of conspiracy theory websites out there. Truthers are boring as heck, and I consider them mentally ill. They are drunk with assumptions and confabulations.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Well, pull up your pants then. You too are speaking being full of ass. and conf. You see, where does your words take you. Nowhere.

You are contradicting your own words being a Truth-er. Circle complete.

Amazing how right I was in my presumptions.

[-] 0 points by TheMaster (63) 10 years ago

Get a rope and a chair. You are ready.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

I have been ready since 25 years back. I am still hanging on waiting for idiots to wake up while they are trying to pull the chair away under me.



[-] -1 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 10 years ago

If you're not getting feedback it is because your ideas are not interesting. It's time you drop conspiracy theories and start doing some real research.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Real research. Well, Mike did real research and he got nowhere.

Have you got any suggestions? Because I have none left.

[-] -2 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 10 years ago

Drop the conspiracy nonsense, take some medication for you mental illness cause by conspiracy nonsense, then start reading good books.

[-] 1 points by iamalsoows (86) 10 years ago

Here is a good book I read: "Grand Chessboard" by ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI.

Any other suggestions?

"In the long run, global politics are bound to become increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic power in the hands of a single state. Hence, America is not only the first, as well as the only, truly global superpower, but it is also likely to be the very last."

This is a quote from above book. Nice work if you can get it and if you get it won't you tell me how.

And listen, I speak sense and I venture not to take medication and I am not mentally ill.

Now, I want you to tell me just one good book to read and I will not tell you where you can go... I am here waiting because I always like to read a good book. Also bad books. Show me a good book, please, and I shall respond asap.