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Forum Post: Fix Social Security: #RemovetheCap

Posted 4 years ago on May 29, 2015, 8:49 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8231) from Phoenix, AZ
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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

Well I see ya got your 1st response from one of the dumbest of the mutts. Forced retirement "it" says. If "it" does not want to retire - I don't think that anyone is gonna make "it" retire. The rethuglicans would love to see "it" and everyone else die while on the job. F'n idiot.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8231) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

Turbo is a con, (you should hear him bitch about government spending), he is a Ron/Rand Paul supporter, so his responses are pretty predicable. Shadz (ie lungo? and mdonelly? or whatever) and BW are Greens (not that the Greens give a crap about them) but they are little budding political hacks who dream of power, their only purpose is to co-opt OWS for their party.

Bernie the human threshing machine will sort the rest out soon enough.

[-] 0 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 4 years ago

it's all smoke & mirrors as far as I see it....

fact's are... for many people's lifetimes... they have paid into soc sec ... guaranteeing them a return in later years...

that money they paid ... is theirs... including the interest they would have received (compounded) ... had the govt not striped it away from them... promising better returns.... (a contractual agreement)

now it's the govt's time to continue paying their bills (owning up to their responsibilities) .... and nothing else ...

every other angle is an attempt not to pay what's right-fully owed ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8231) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

What do you think about removing the cap, or at least raising it? I support removing the cap and apply the tax to all forms of income.

[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1756) 4 years ago

Its a forced retirement plan that they charade as your own contributions determining what you get.

This is just further proof that it isn't, that the entire thing was created as a revenue generator, and that in order for me to get "my" retirement others need to pay into it?

Bernie won't get into the deep end of the pool of the system, he's been around way too long for that.

Lifetime politicians know what issues to parade and which ones to not.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8231) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

Turbo the con doesn't like Social Security, what a shock, NOT

[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1756) 4 years ago

I don't like getting letters saying that "my retirement is currently looking like xyz" and then hearing that "guess what, we actually spent all of your money and if we dont get more from group ABC then you might be screwed"...

What scenario in your life is that way of running shit acceptable?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8231) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

There is an easy fix; flat tax social security first dollar to last all forms of income, then yours, mine everyone's social security would be secure for centuries.

[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1756) 4 years ago

So if my payout is actually dependent on other people paying even more into now than they already were, why does the gubment send me letters giving me an update of "what I'm "entitled" to" , based on MY earnings?

You dont see the hypocrisy here?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8231) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

When 1% is getting 99% of the returns, the cap no longer makes sense, but yes Reagan started stealing from the fund long ago. Still; it is a very easy fix, surely you support removing the cap.

To answer your question directly it could be that people of the past underestimated the greed of the wealthy or the gullibility of the public, or both.

[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1756) 4 years ago

You didn't address the point I was speaking about.

If a cap on someone elses SS needs to be removed in order to protect mine, then why do these politicians keep sending me and everyone else letters stating what we are entitled to if we retired today?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8231) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

Like a child it is always why why why with you. How do you feel about removing the cap? Explaining stuff is fun i suppose but action matters, what we do, should we remove the cap in your opinion?

Ask the person who sent you the letter, I don't know why, but I do think we should remove the cap what do you think?

and i did address your point in both responses now how about you address removing the cap....

[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1756) 4 years ago

"Ask the person who sent you the letter, I don't know why"

Exactly. You have no idea how the SS works. You may want to start there, learn a few things, before you start spewing out solutions like a well trained msm seal.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8231) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

If you know so much then tell us why, or are you too worried about your Wall Street buddies paying too much in taxes or maybe its the government spending too much that has you distracted. Again I ask you what is your opinion about removing the cap? Are you worried it will cost your Wall Street buddies too much?


[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1756) 4 years ago

Dems and Reps are the wall st front groups, of which you openly endorse. Take that nonsense somewhere else you old redneck.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8231) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

Let's talk issues tell us how do you feel about a transaction tax?

How do you feel about removing the cap?

[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1756) 4 years ago

Throwing a tax onto the situation is not going to change a single thing. Wall St will still be running the show, and that tax is not going to equate to much. Stop wasting your time with plans that will fundamentally not change a thing. So go ahead, throw in a tax on it, the results will be so minimal and all of this stuff is international so who gets the money, etc.

i don't have a take on it. Kind of like having chicken or beef for dinner tonight, doesnt matter because its not any real consequence with either one. So sure, you want to put a tax on it, go ahead. It might be a little more complicated than that, but going to the underlying levels and implementation isn't exactly your strong point. You comment on bond property taxes is one of the dumber things Ive seen in a while someone who thinks they are politically slick.

Removing the cap to SS? I guess that would depend on why it needs to be removed? Is the SS fund in trouble? Because Dems say its fine, and Reps say its bankrupt.

So which is it? No point in making a decision on funding until you state where that funding lies.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8231) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

Have you heard about the internet? If you want to know about the state of the SS fund check it out yourself, I think removing the cap and expanding benefits as Bernie Sanders wants to do is a positive step forward and I support it. Only an idiot would depend on politicians to inform them about the facts.

Have you heard about the deficit? Do you know anything at all about what is actually going on in the world? The deficit is used as an excuse to cut infrastructure spending as well as education, the transaction tax could remove the deficit as an issue so I support that as well.

You don't seem to care about anything except dumping on the Dems but we all knew that about you already.


[-] 0 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 4 years ago

money is a means of circulation of goods and services