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Forum Post: Fight the Establishment Democratic Party

Posted 3 years ago on Oct. 6, 2011, 7:47 p.m. EST by manichunter (0)
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The Tea Party is having an impact on politics because it fights the Republican Party establishment, vote politicians out who do not listen to them, and refuse to be sucked into the establishment. This movement will not be successful if it does not fight against the establishment with both political parties. One of the things that impacted me today in Houston when I passed by the demonstrators was what they said "They bailed them out, and sold us out." Now my question back is who bailed them out. Bush, Obama, Republican majorities, and democrat majorities all bailed Wall Street out. Why, because they are all under the sway of the financial oligarchs. The only to fight the oligarchs is to vote for people outside of the establishment on either side and vote them out if they ever join the establishment. Best of luck to you all, from a conservative voter...... We fight the same struggle for different reasons, but struggle against the corrupt establishment we must. You bring down Obama and his corrupt democrats who secretly support the financial oligarchs, and we will continue to do the same on the Republican side............

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[-] 1 points by marjen002 (4) 3 years ago

This is why we need to push for term limits in congress. I am but one person, I can't do it alone. I started this petition and am struggling to have it gain traction. Please forward to as many people as possible, as often as necessary, so that such legislation may have a chance.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/introduce-legislation-place-term-limits-all-members-congress-two-4-year-terms/4J81sHWy

[-] 1 points by hubcap (9) 3 years ago

Actually kpbsfs99, you are seeing what the media and the establishment want you to believe about the TEA Party. We scare the DC culture and they have to do whatever they can to deface the movement. We're still here, we're still grassroots, and we aren't owned by any corporate interest. I believe we're fighting some of the same battle. I'm encouraged to see that. Our right wing talk radio guy here in Albuquerque (he's actually more centrist/liberatarian) is giving this movement a fair shake today. Lots of encouraged callers.

I don't know, I was initially concerned when I saw the likes of Frances Piven and Michael Moore out there, but the more I hear, the more I think our movements have some common ground. We the people have had enough of the corrupt establishment on both sides of the aisle.

[-] 1 points by hubcap (9) 3 years ago

Actually kpbsfs99, you are seeing what the media and the establishment want you to believe about the TEA Party. We scare the DC culture and they have to do whatever they can to deface the movement. We're still here, we're still grassroots, and we aren't owned by any corporate interest. I believe we're fighting some of the same battle. I'm encouraged to see that. Our right wing talk radio guy here in Albuquerque (he's actually more centrist/liberatarian) is giving this movement a fair shake today. Lots of encouraged callers.

I don't know, I was initially concerned when I saw the likes of Frances Piven and Michael Moore out there, but the more I hear, the more I think our movements have some common ground. We the people have had enough of the corrupt establishment on both sides of the aisle.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 3 years ago

somehow i don't see the republicans putting up meaningful fight against the republicans.. tea party is not representing the people its always been a corporate oligarchy astroturf movement. not grass roots. not honest. not for the people. I'm certainly going to take obama out with the trash as best i can, but republicans are hardly leading the way on that front.

[-] 1 points by kpbsfs99 (1) 3 years ago

First of all the Tea Party, while at first could be argued to be noble, is now more or less a corporate entity. I hope that does not happen with this movement, and I do not see how it can if we remain generally progressive. The Tea Party may have gotten some things done, and it has gotten a lot of attention, but it hurts Republicans more than Democrats. This movement should not be seen as the liberal Tea Party. It is not the liberal Tea Party. This is a populist progressive movement. If we have a problem with Democratic candidates we can work against them, just like if we have problems with conservative candidates. If we work against "the Democratic Establishment" we will only be helping their Republican opponents. The Tea Party got Rand Paul into the Senate, but they also created a lot of losing Republican races too. Do not discourage moderates. This movement has a lot of moderates in it and we do not want to lose them by polarizing the political world even further.

[-] 1 points by hubcap (9) 3 years ago

Actually kpbsfs99, you are seeing what the media and the establishment want you to believe about the TEA Party. We scare the DC culture and they have to do whatever they can to deface the movement. We're still here, we're still grassroots, and we aren't owned by any corporate interest. I believe we're fighting some of the same battle. I'm encouraged to see that. Our right wing talk radio guy here in Albuquerque (he's actually more centrist/liberatarian) is giving this movement a fair shake today. Lots of encouraged callers.

I don't know, I was initially concerned when I saw the likes of Frances Piven and Michael Moore out there, but the more I hear, the more I think our movements have some common ground. We the people have had enough of the corrupt establishment on both sides of the aisle.

The media is well entrenched on liberal side, and with the establishment so it was an obvious need to attack the conservative based TEA Party from the get go. The very first Tax Day protest met with Anderson Cooper and his buddies at CNN making a mockery of the protesters. This grassroots movement may not get the pushback from the media that we TEA Partiers have gotten.

In reality, what we all need to to is keep Wall Street from nominating Romney, and rid DC of thugs like Barney Frank, etc. There are problem people on both sides of the aisle.

On the TEA Party losing races, actually, we swept the house. Biggest party victory in 70 years. We took it in the chin on candidates like Christine O'Donnell (big mistake in the first place), but overall, there was a huge removal of some of the junk. I was fairly devastated to see the witch in Alaska return. That was a tough loss.

For non-establishment candidates, you might take a look at Gary Johnson. He's strong fiscal conservative, not entrenched in the DC/Lobby crowd at all, and fairly liberal on social issues. He wants to end the war on drugs, abolish the IRS, bring the troops home now and supports pro choice up until the point of viability of the fetus.