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Forum Post: Faux News tried to justify America attacking Iran by saying China gave them ICBMs that reach USA. If true, why not attack China?

Posted 8 years ago on March 7, 2012, 8:50 p.m. EST by ironboltbruce (371) from Miami, FL
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Tonite a Faux News pundit tried to justify America's upcoming attack on Iran by saying China gave them ICBMs that can reach the USA. If true, why not attack China?



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[-] 2 points by pewestlake (947) from Brooklyn, NY 8 years ago

Want to know what the Iranians incentive is? Name the nuclear power that America has invaded.

[-] 1 points by ironboltbruce (371) from Miami, FL 8 years ago

T H A N K - Y O U for posting this terrible but incontrovertible truth.

Too bad it will never be seen by enough of the Sheeple to stop what is now inevitable.

I will stand my ground in support of the United States Constitution. But unless and until the American Sheeple pull their heads out of their cable TV controlled asses, I might as well be trying to duck DHS WAASS drones.

I will stand my ground nonetheless. I have grandchildren, and I'd rather die trying to keep them free than have to explain to them why I didn't.


[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

It is great that you, ironboltbruce, has a future orientation that too few Americans possess. In support of the U.S. Constitution, I can call you comrade (without all of that baggage from Communism, I hope -- isn't it strange that many countries with "the people's ..." in their names treat their people like dirt or worse and many "... science" are not very scientific at all?).

[-] 1 points by pewestlake (947) from Brooklyn, NY 8 years ago

Israel might as well already be at war but I don't think Americans have the stomach for another illegal war in the middle east. Neo-cons are war profiteers so they want to invade Canada. But the rest of us are tired of overseas involvement. Most Americans just want to watch sports. ;-)

[-] 1 points by RedSkyMorning (220) 8 years ago

An attack on Iran is an attack on China.

How did the US get into WWII? We cut of Japan's oil supplies, leaving them no choice but to attack us, but making us look like the innocent, good guys. Wag the dog. If China attacks us, it will crash the world markets and we will owe them nothing.

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 8 years ago

we cant attack china, if they attack us though they default on our debt making our government in the black again

[-] 1 points by SteveKJR (-497) 8 years ago

Can't attack china because all the Apple products are made over there. Apple has everyone by the short hairs by making them believe they have the greatest latest devices since sliced bread.

6 months from now they will sucker people into buying another of their greatest devices and 6 months from then another. The people who use apple products are "brainwashed" and suckers - spending over $1,000 per year for electronic products.

I still have the same flip phone that I bought 3 years ago. It only cost me $45.00.

The Apple Gods have spkoen - buy, buy, buy, spend, spend, spend.

Right now apple is worth 8 billion - and their stocks keep going up. No outrage about their profits or what their CEO's get in bonusus is there?

For that reason alone we cant' attack China -

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 8 years ago

love that post

[-] 1 points by alexrai (851) 8 years ago

Why does a big schoolyard bully never pick on someone his own size?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

China is U.S.'s major banker and supplier. No one in business in the right mind picks a fight with their own BANKER! However much buying from China stunts U.S. domestic job growth, there is the other side of the story -- that many Americans get ridiculously cheap (yes, sometimes rather crappy) products from China. I assure you that there are more poorer Americans buying at Walmart than wealthier Americans. From which other country aside from China will these poorer people get their cheap stuffs?

[-] 1 points by alexrai (851) 8 years ago

lol, good point. You know what the funny thing is though, if some of those people pulled themselves away from the television and learned how to make their own cheap stuffs... or bought cheaper (and much sweeter) stuffs at a local thrift store... :)

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

They do not have the capital equipments to make their own cheap stuffs and the stuffs that they make will probably not be cheap relative to Chinese imports. Besides, those Chinese imports are NEW compared to the stuffs at a local thrift store. Many Americans still fancy themselves as being above taking the low road to a local thrift store.

Your statement about the big schoolyard bully not picking on someone his own size is actually false. The Cold War was won after the U.S. had picked on the former Soviet Union which had far more nuclear weapons than the U.S.

If countries envy China's position as banker to the U.S., they can simply loan the U.S. more than a TRILLION dollars and I am sure they will be held in some reverence, too. You have to agree that China had expressed supreme faith or trust (or ignorance or stupidity [which I hope not]) by committing so much money to the U.S., especially seeing how hard they had earned their money through the ridiculously cheap stuffs.

[-] 1 points by alexrai (851) 8 years ago

I think a sewing machine costs only about $50 nowadays, you could probably find one for less on Kajiji too. :) New material at the thrift store as well. Just sayin'...

You're totally right about the ego problem but stuff at the thrift store is way cooler than stuff at Walmart, its usually got some character.

I don't think China realized that the federal reserve was going to turn the printing presses on overdrive... and leave them there for as long as they have. They've since smartened up and started diversifying into capital assets around the globe instead.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

Yes, producing clothings using sewing machines is feasible here but the quality will probably be inferior to Chinese handiwork. Thrift stores have some really nifty stuffs but it takes the eyes of an artist to find and combine them in elegant configurations. That takes time and the required talent IS a rarity in our general population. Similar to owning antiques, scrounging at thrift stores is not for everyone but it can be very rewarding for the adventurous ones with artistic eyes. China figured out the U.S.'s devaluation of its treasury holdings and issued quasi-warnings. The U.S. responded by doing Operation Twist rather than QE3.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

china has nukes

[-] 0 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 8 years ago

China also has a ridiculously large army. It would be foolish and destructive to start a war with them.

Don't pick fights that you're not sure you can win...

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

China has the large army because it has to make sure domestic rebellions do not get the upper hand. One primary source of those is China's western and rural provinces and some Islamic areas from which China nabs "Islamic terrorists." China is smart enough not to give ICBMs to Islamic Iran because ICBMs can reach China proper, too. Does China really trust the Islamic countries THAT much, knowing fully well that Iran signed the NPT treaty and seemed to be reneging the promises made? I say, there is no way that China would be so stupid. Relax, that pundit is probably just a mouthpiece spewing garbage.

Oh, I have also noticed this thread: http://occupywallst.org/forum/help-from-pinghaihuizhouguangdong-china/ China is so scared of its domestic vulnerability that it is cracking down on bloggers. It may seem like a juggernaut but it is awfully afraid. It reminds me of the former Soviet Union's brittleness.

[-] 0 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 8 years ago

China is right to be afraid of its people. When there are a billion people packed into that country, it would be extremely hard to contain a real revolution there if even only 10% of the population decided that they wanted change.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

Yes, China did not have a history of peaceful change and its leadership knows it well. That is why I said that I would put my bet on the eagle rather than the mythical dragon if the fight breaks out in Iran. China has already gotten its hands full domestically. Would it "help" Iran by picking a fight with the U.S.? The U.S. is already next to China through our troops' presence in Afghanistan for many years and that did not provoke China at all. China if anything is probably gleeful that the U.S. gets its hands full fighting the "Islamic terrorists." I might also add that Russia is in the same gleeful camp with their experience in Chechnya.

[-] 0 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 8 years ago

Probably, although for the reasons you stated above I doubt that China and the US want to get into a fight anyway. There would be too many losses on both sides. All I know for sure is that I don't want to be in the crossfire!

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

Most people in both China and the U.S. do NOT want war but it may break out regardless in a sort of chain reaction. You will not be in the crossfire because the battleground will be largely in Iran unless we go to the nuclear ICBM level. Even if "Islamic terrorists" or ICBMs attack the U.S., Charlotte will probably not be as attractive as our major cities as targets. Still it is important for us to try to put a stop to this remote chance of a major war. In any war, the innocent bystanders tend to get hurt and in this case they will probably be the Iranian civilians so working for peaceful resolution can save innocent lives.

[-] 0 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Hi ironbolt, Excellent post.

Best Regards, Nevada

[-] 0 points by VoTeR (2) 8 years ago

We can't attack China because our need for cheap and cheesy unreliable crap wont make it to wall mart. At least we did China the big favor of having Clinton give them the most advanced missile guidance systems for their space program. They did promise not to use it for.their military.

[-] 0 points by JesusDemocrat (193) 8 years ago

I will not attack Iran unilaterally. The world bankers will have to have some skin in it too.

Fear not.