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Forum Post: Farrakhan and Richard Gage

Posted 2 years ago on March 16, 2012, 3:30 p.m. EST by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY
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http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/article_8637.shtml

“The official account of the events of September 11, 2001 is a lie,” said Mr. Ryan, a chemistry laboratory manager with 22 years’ experience.

“There are many ways to see this. We can begin by stating unequivocally that Muslims did not attack the United States on 9/11. That’s clear from the simple fact that people of God, including Muslims, do not murder innocent people for any reason,” he added. Mr. Ryan pointed out major mainstream media outlets including the London Telegraph and the BBC reported that half of the alleged hijackers were still alive after the attacks.

It was also widely reported that the accused hijackers were known to have consumed alcohol and pork and visited strip clubs, said Mr. Ryan. Such acts are divinely prohibited in Islam. These were just a few of the important facts not investigated by the FBI or the U.S. governments 9/11 Commission he pointed out.

“We should note that the enemy just happens to live in countries that the U.S. had plans to invade before 9/11. It’s well known and has been admitted by insiders like treasury secretary Paul O’Neill that the Bush administration was planning to invade Iraq from the day they walked into the White House, eight months before 9/11,” said Mr. Ryan. The administration also had plans to invade Afghanistan to build a pipeline he added.

“Make no mistake; oil and gas are definitely what the U.S. government values. We need oil and gas to make agricultural chemicals in order to produce food like oils for raw materials for many of the products we use. Not to mention the fuel that drives all of our industry and the U.S. war machine,” said Mr. Ryan who has written several articles and books on the subject of 9/11.

“We still need to know who’s behind the 9/11 attack and the one thing we don’t want to do is jump to conclusions again,” said Mr. Ryan. “It might be our own leaders that are the terrorists. People laugh at this idea but it’s a historical fact that the U.S. government plans terrorist attacks against its own people,” he added, citing historical examples like 1960s Operation Northwoods which called for the CIA to commit terrorist acts in America and blame it on Cuba.

Attendees listen to presentation. Richard Gage, a San Francisco area architect with over 24 years of experience represented Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth), a group with over 1,600 members and said everyone needs to know the scientific truths about what happened. Its members and supporters are calling for a new investigation. There are several indications that the Twin Towers were felled by explosives, explained Mr. Gage. The National Institute of Standards and Technology investigated and said there was no evidence of explosives, he added. “Later they acknowledged that they never looked for it. How can you find what you’re not looking for?” Mr. Gage asked the audience.

“Fire is an organic process; it has never done what we’re going to see in a moment and it never has brought down a steel-framed high rise or any high rise down to the ground before 9/11,” said Mr. Gage before presenting a detailed slide show and DVD presentation.

Among the findings of AE911Truth include that World Trade Center Building 7, 350 feet from the north tower fell straight down in less than seven seconds and had “all the characteristics of a controlled demolition with explosives.”

Though Mr. Ryan and Mr. Gage challenged the government’s official account of what happened both men encouraged the audience to do their own study on the subject and said a deeper investigation is needed.

“Please, check out every fact that you hear tonight. We’re not looking for believers. Do your own research,” said Mr. Gage. There are still questions to be answered and a growing number of Americans want answers both men argued.

“We brought these brilliant scientific minds to be among us because we want to know the truth. Jesus said ‘Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.’ We want to be free,” said Robert Muhammad.

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[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 2 years ago

There was a study comparing deeply religious people to skeptics. The discoveries were very interesting. They put both groups in front of computer monitors with scattered data on the screen (basically, electronic gibberish). The deeply religious people were far more likely to find words or faces in the electronic gibberish, where skeptics were far more likely to realize it was just gibberish (and as I said, it in fact was just gibberish, no words, no faces, no nothing).

Here's where it gets interesting. The researchers then gave the skeptics a drug that induces high levels of brain dopamine expression. What do you know ... the skeptics were then finding words and faces in the gibberish at the same rates as the deeply religious people.

The moral of the story, paranoia is profoundly influenced by biochemistry, so do something about those dopamine levels would you? BTW, you can start with changes to your diet.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

What happened to Susan Lindauer? She disappeared at least figuratively. Not a word in the media. And there have been other whistleblowers that have also disappeared as far as any media recognition is concerned. If there was nothing to their claims, wouldn't they be brought forward so they could be riddiculed in the face of witnesses and expert testimony? The way the third building went down simply defies any logical explanation other than demolition. I defy anyone to watch the footage of that building fall and conclude otherwise.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

It looks like Farrakhan and the NOI is stepping into this situation boldly. Good.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

slits were cut into the structure by impact

[-] 0 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

The bottom line is there needs to be a complete, independent, well funded investigation that can force Bush, Cheney etal to testify. How is it possible that nearly 3,000 people are murdered in broad daylight in downtown Manhattan and there is no proper investigation?

[-] 1 points by rayolite (461) 2 years ago

First there was no proper investigation, then there was no proper truth movement. I found this. Explaining a lot. http://algoxy.com/conc/fema_deception.html This floored me. Remember the "petition to put a 9-11 investigation on the NYS ballot. Self sabotage. F'nnnn can't believe it. http://algoxy.com/psych/whatis9-11disinfo-nyccan.html After guliani took the plans, as shown in the first link, the lead architect truther will only believe FEAM and silverstein. OMG! No wonder. http://algoxy.com/psych/whatis9-11disinfo_gage.html Does it surprise you this is on the same site? http://algoxy.com/ows/soldiersinquiry.html

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 2 years ago

Well ShubeLMorgan2, I hate to pop your bubble.

Gage is right, the building was brought down with explosives.

“Fire is an organic process; it has never done what we’re going to see in a moment and it never has brought down a steel-framed high rise or any high rise down to the ground before 9/11,” said Mr. Gage before presenting a detailed slide show and DVD presentation.

But he refuses to use truth that explains how, and instead backs a lie that makes explanation impossible. There was no steel frame, except outside the core. The demo theory I've going to share with has ABSOLUTELY the only coherent explanation for the contents of the building being shredded.

ABSOLUTELY

ABSOLUTELY

ABSOLUTELY

The only one.

Where did I get this info you might ask? I got it from a patriot who is also a Ph.D in physics. Apparently from cornell, and worked for 15 years in the materials testing industry. Actually a very appropriate degree to approach the Twin Towers demise. He refers to a man who saw a documentary about the construction of the Twins which provides info allowing a logical, feasible and detailed explanation for what happened.

http://libertycalling.com/cbrowndemomodel.htm

When I encountered this site about 4 years ago, I became an activist for constitutional government. It's got so many facts and so much evidence that truthers do not know what to make of it.

Truthers do "social truth", or whatever their social group thinks is true, is what they gather around. And, if their quasi leaders don't recognize info, they do not either.

So . . . America turns to shit because of the truth movement believing false leaders and rejecting evidence and reason.

Now a few more good Americans are decieved into supporting the impossible structure that Gage is invested in. FEMA, Guliani, Silverstein and PBS deceived the nation.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

When I have time I'll look at the link you've sent, though at first glance it seems dodgy. I find it interesting and significant that the Nation of Islam gave Gage three hours during their annual Savior's Day event.

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 2 years ago

Do you know this thread never appears in the forum?

Gage is correct. The buildings were demolished, so Islam supported his position.

Read the pages that link goes to. The fact is that with what gage believes regarding the Towers structure, demolition is IMPOSSIBLE to explain. This is mind boggling that the truth movement is so mislead. There are pages there that describe the guys efforts to get We Are Change involved. They censored his information and its all evidence! Evidence supported by a Ph.D in physics.

The dude pointed out to gage in public what are digital manipulations of the scanned plans to make them appear as construction drawings.

http://algoxy.com/psych/whatis9-11disinfo_gage.html

There are screen shots of the revision tables on the sheets that were obviously added to the scans. This guy is absolutely right on and gage is blocking him! Look at the screen shot from chemtrails that he found where a truth seeker asks about the evidence of the true structural core and gage puts it down.

Gage has no explanation for anything. It's all one big generalization that the public knowledgable of construction laughs at, "Inside job" . . . when gage fails to explain how it was done.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Do you know this thread never appears in the forum?

testing...

you're right. shadow banned.

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 2 years ago

But a notice comes up. Forced to a private conversation?

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

yes

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 2 years ago

Seems to be appearing in the forum now. 3/22/12 10:30pm PST.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Comes and goes, maybe a game, maybe a glitch.

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 2 years ago

Hmmm, maybe different mods and agendas? 3/23 7:23pm PST

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Who knows, I can't get a headache wondering about it. It is what it is.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

This is a test to see if this post gets bumped to the top of the forum.

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[-] 0 points by shooz (17714) 2 years ago

Are you sure it wasn't brought down by HAARP produced vibrations?

[-] 0 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Schmuck.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

lol

didn't they proof against that ?

Color Footage of Tacoma Narrows

I was going with gravity as the major player