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Forum Post: ExxonMobil: Do You Want to Play Monopoly?

Posted 11 years ago on March 4, 2013, 1:33 p.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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Exxon and Mobil were born from the monopoly known as Standard Oil.

On May 15, 1911, the US Supreme Court upheld the lower court judgment and declared the Standard Oil group to be an "unreasonable" monopoly under the Sherman Antitrust Act, Section II. It ordered Standard to break up into 34 independent companies with different boards of directors, the biggest two of the companies were Standard Oil of New Jersey (which became Exxon) and Standard Oil of New York (which became Mobil)

Since then they have become ExxonMobil.

ExxonMobil also OWNS HUNDREDS OF SUBSIDIARIES such as Imperial Oil Limited (69.6% ownership) in Canada, and SeaRiver Maritime, a petroleum shipping company. Subsidiaries Aera Energy, Esso, Esso Australia, Exxon, Exxon Neftegas, Imperial Oil (69,6%), Mobil, Mobil Producing Nigeria, SeaRiver Maritime, Superior Oil Company, Vacuum Oil Company, XTO Energy

Reforming the monopoly.

The More You Know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg

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[-] 3 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

"Exxon Hates Your Children," too

I got 2 business cards at the Climate Rally from people with the above message, and was reminded of that when i saw your thread. Anyway I just checked out there web site...... below link

"For every one dollar Big Oil spends on political contributions, they get $59 back in subsidies - a 5800% rate of return"

http://www.exxonhatesyourchildren.com/

The More You Know...is a good sign off. You should make it a permanent one, and maybe OWS should adopt it as well..

~Odin~

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

Ha thanks. It would be awesome to do another ad campaign with info like this. Using your quote about the subsidies would be a good one.

There are so many you can do.

Did you know Warren Buffett is a huge reason Goldman Sachs is still around? After they lost about 8 billion in shareholders in 2008 after the news came out that they were scamming investors, Buffett propped them up with 5 billion before they got the initial 10 billion from taxpayers. He was supposed to be the good billionaire!!! LOL

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

WOW, even Buffet...eh? My heroes are falling fast, the RCMP and him in the same week!

It would be a great idea to start an ad campaign with all the reasons of.. Why Occupy Wall Street... exists. We could put up a thread...provide some examples... asking people here for the top two (clearly delineated) 1-2 liners that could go into this ad campaign, no commentary or opinions

We should also ask them for their source (including a link), and that hopefully has the date that this info came out

The links put up may have other facts, statistics, or trends that could also be used by other posters here to look for the main reasons why they are Occupiers

Then we could ask or put pressure on the forum administration both from here, and in NY if I ever see any of them again, to put up a PDF so that people could print them out, and distribute them in their area of the country

And all this could be put up by different groups on social media too

I have also been in contact with the guy who makes Occucards in CA . He makes several different post card-like cards that have different subjects, ie. Republicrats...Wells Fargo, etc., and he was interested in the idea too for his cards, so I sent him some ideas, as well as lit from OWSNY

http://www.occucards.com/

I drop off the hybrid flyers that I made up several months ago, or his cards now that I have 250 of them at different business sale paper bins, and at libraries too

Anyway, as we gather the top reasons that Occupy exists, we can all vote the ones up that we think are the best, then send them into the administration to put up that PDF for people to print out

In a separate thread we could ask people for what they think the two best sources of learning would be...web sites, books, or authors

Then on yet another thread, we could possibly ask for the best 1-2 sentences honest talking points for OWS would be, ie. 'Ocupy Wall Street is about people who want to see people's interest put before corporate and banking interests.'

If distorted or dishonest catch phrases, or talking points worked for 'them',... honest ones can work for us, with the understanding and encouragement for them to go on and learn more

And all three threads could then be combined into one flyer, with the best ideas which would be voted on by us

This La Marea style approach would be an excellent way to start the process of linking this forum to the streets, and hence to the masses we need on our side...

http://truth-out.org/news/item/14102-spains-rebellion-moves-to-print

~Odin~

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

the idea would work perfectly for the OccuCards site. It's very similar to the model they already have.

Very cool site too!

Get the thread rolling. I'll add some comments.

Knowledge is power.

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Agreed, the idea would work well with the Occucards' people, and here as well

Since I have already made contact with him through emails, I could ask him to view the results when we are finished, and see if he is interested in making an Occucard up from some of the ideas, at least that emanated from here

"Knowledge is Power," and collaborating with others to spread that Knowledge is very important to our success, so I will get on it

BTW Trev, I gave you the chance & you blew it

The More You Know

~Odin~

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

Ha. That you did. Let me try again.

With programs like Stellar Wind, the NSA goes through 1.7 billion forms of electronic communication from US citizens everyday. -ACLU

The More You Know

[-] 1 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Yes, that's it...maybe we could ask for their top two. shadz had a link with a list of statistics, facts and trends

1 in 4 of the nation's children live in poverty...no source though

I'll either put it up tonight or tomorrow, and maybe we can run the next one concurrently, starting a day or two later

OK...OK ..TMYK is yours!

~Odin~

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

If you read this comment, please reply with a list of as many corporations that you think violate the Antitrust Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act

This should be fun

[-] 3 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 11 years ago

That could take a while. Here's a group of four. General Mills, Quaker Oats, Kellogg's, and Post. These four manufacturers have dominated the cereal industry for decades.

They take a pound of grain, about 15 cents worth, process it, box, ship, and advertise it for $3 a box or more. It's almost as expensive as ground beef which takes about 10 pounds of grain to produce. Probably the greatest rip off of the American consumer.