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Forum Post: Expect VERY dirty tricks.... like a bomb exploding at Goldman Sachs or B of A. WHO would get the blame for it???

Posted 2 years ago on Oct. 26, 2011, 7:41 p.m. EST by TIOUAISE (2526)
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If you think police brutality in Oakland was dirty... brace yourself for MUCH MORE DEVIOUS behavior, much dirtier tricks, that could make Watergate look like a Sunday School picnic.

Suppose you were to wake up one morning to the news that a powerful BOMB has exploded at at Goldman Sachs or Bank of America. Think of the emotion that would cause across the nation, especially if there were dead and wounded... WHO do you suppose the corporate-controlled media would pin the blame on??? They would try and condemn OWS in the court of public opinion in a matter of minutes.

This is the kind of CIA-type "dirty trick" that OWS must EXPECT and carefully PREPARE FOR. And THAT, my friends, is one of the reasons why no hint of any condoning of violence must EVER be tolerated by the Movement. OWS must IMO reiterate on a DAILY basis its total and unconditional commitment to nonviolent action. Anyone advocating violence must be expelled immediately from the Movement, as they can only be "agents provocateurs" OR unstable individuals who have no place in such a crucial struggle. ONE single fool can cause irreparable damage to the Movement.

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[-] 1 points by downwithsocialism (0) 2 years ago

Open your eyes. Why has Obama encouraged you to continue? Because you are playing into the elitists hands. Just think for a little bit; whether the protests do or do not get out of hand, enough people protesting can cause the president to declare martial law and if you think the police are rough, imagine the US military enforcing the laws, herding you like cattle off the streets. Think it can't happen? Think again but keep on playing into their hands like the blind fools you are.

One day, you will awaken and all your rights and freedoms will be gone. You will not know why, you will not understand how your present actions can directly impact the future.

[-] 1 points by rohjo (92) 2 years ago

I've got a different slant: We're already finding our rights and freedoms going. And empty FEMA detention centers lie waiting for civil unrest. But PEACE is our power. With that, martial law would only be an embarrassment internationally and a REAL stimulus for all Americans to protest. But only with peace. That's why this Occupy game is going to heat up--provoked from within and without.

[-] 1 points by rohjo (92) 2 years ago

Measure the prescience and value of this post by the rabid attacks it's getting.

Some ex-Marines launched a Web site to support the Occupy movement. Their take is quite interesting. They just may understand the nature of government-sponsored violence. See http://occupymarines.org/the-ows-8/

Occupy tactics in Oakland were not all peaceful. A minority of occupiers (prompted by whom?) did instigate police response, as overboard as it may have been. Over a dozen different law enforcement agencies had been called in. Now both sides, nameless instigators on one side and nameless cops on the other, are unaccountable for a big news-making action that plays into the hands of many seemingly disparate parties.

Self-imposed battles with cops bolster our bravado, seem heroic, and end there. And so, eventually, will any hope of a movement gathering 99% for real change.

Same as it ever was: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27053

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

THANK YOU, "rohjo", I'll sleep better tonight just from knowing that SOME people are doing some serious thinking about the REAL issues.

I hope Occupy Oakland and OWS have learned some lessons from the mistakes made. Have they identified the "saboteur" or the unstable individual who provoked the incidents? When a protest is completely peaceful, it's much harder for the police to be brutal on a big scale.

I'm VERY concerned, especially about the dirty tricks to come... but I think that if OWS remains 100% committed to gandhian and kingian nonviolence, WE DO HAVE A CHANCE TO OVERCOME.

[-] 1 points by CarryTheGripsUpToTheAttic (133) 2 years ago

Follow the police, gently plead with them to help us. It's not illegal to talk with them! Encourage them to leak docs and info. about these crackdowns.

Even if it doesn't work, their superiors will be less likely to send them into action against protesters like this!!

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

In Egypt, the demonstrators actually sang the praises of the army in Tahrir Square and were so clever that the army ended up siding with them and that was the turning moment.

[-] 1 points by CarryTheGripsUpToTheAttic (133) 2 years ago

Yes!

Actions like that!

Police can also continue to draw a paycheck for their families when they are INSIDE the police department leaking docs and info. on their illegal actions!! We don't want them to get fired!

Anybody that knows a policeman - get busy!

[-] 1 points by e307465 (147) 2 years ago

Why would they do anything like this when OWS isn't big enough to make the elite blink? Some of the posts on here are amazing! Think people!!

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

"OWS isn't big enough to make the elite blink", you write.

Oh yeah??? I suppose that's why so many politicians of EVERY stripe have come out in favor of OWS. YOU TOO apparently need to do some "thinking", "e307465"...

[-] 1 points by e307465 (147) 2 years ago

I would be lucky to be able to name 20 politicians who have came out in favor. Do you really think fear mongering along the lines of conspiracy theories is going to help the movement? Goldmen and the rest could care a less about OWS right now because it's simply not big enough to do anything (No matter what you say). This is why organization and growth should be the topic of every discussion right now. But no, you would rather worry about a 'false flag' conspiracy theory WHICH HAS NOT HAPPENED!

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Oh how WISE to just wait until it happens!!!

[-] 1 points by e307465 (147) 2 years ago

That's not the point genius. Why not focus on moving forward instead of worrying about what might happen? Again, if the movement was in the millions, a 'false flag' wouldn't even be a concern. Growth is the key.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Where have you been hiding over the last month? In a cave? A Special Forces Canadian "agent provocateur" was outed in Zuccotti Park just last week by OWS. It waa a stroke of luck, as the fool forgot his wallet in his sleeping bag.

[-] 1 points by e307465 (147) 2 years ago

Evidently, I've been in a cave. So what was he going to do? Did he have a nuke? C'mon, people are trying to infiltrate the movement every day. That doesn't mean they are going to blow up a bank.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

"That doesn't mean they are going to blow up a bank." WHAAAAT?

Forgive me, but you are so naive!

Did you happen to read the book about "The Execution of Martin Luther King"?

[-] 1 points by e307465 (147) 2 years ago

Ok.. no I haven't read the book, and no, no explosives were found. If they were, it would be all over the media (whether good or bad). Believe what you want, I don't have time for this.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Neither do I... Have a good night!

[-] 1 points by IMSoPoor (40) 2 years ago

Take it easy TIOUAISE. Most of the OWShitters are a bunch of communist potheads with no reasonable goals.

[-] 1 points by e307465 (147) 2 years ago

If you had any clue, you would see that I am a supporter of the movement but don't think bs like this is going to help anything. When you have a clue about me, you can call me an "OWShitter" otherwise STFU.

[-] 1 points by IMSoPoor (40) 2 years ago

OWShitter. Yep, I do have a clue about you.

[-] 1 points by e307465 (147) 2 years ago

Then your clue should be that I constantly say OWS should have a growth model. Otherwise you're a blatant liar.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

RIGHT!!!!!! That must be PRECISELY why so many politicians of EVERY stripe have come out in favor of OWS. It's ALL A CONSPIRACY of "hippie commie potheads", just getting ready to take over this nation!!!

[-] 1 points by IMSoPoor (40) 2 years ago

Glad you agree.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Wanna join us silly hopeless "hippie commie potheads"? We're sure havin' a LOT o' fun!!!

[-] 1 points by IMSoPoor (40) 2 years ago

Only if you add free crack to the party.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

BYO

[-] 1 points by IMSoPoor (40) 2 years ago

You greedy scumbags!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

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[-] 1 points by IMSoPoor (40) 2 years ago

I'm sure corporate execs are going to go around blowing each other up to get anti-OWS attention.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

I AGREE with you, obvious troll!!! Those big CEOS have already proven to the world that they are INSANE enough to do it!!!! These people are sociopaths, remember? (See the movie "Inside Job").

[-] 1 points by MJMorrow (419) 2 years ago

The bomber, I would imagine....We need to work closely and transparently, with the FBI. I don't trust the CIA, because they work for advancing the interests of the Corporations, but I do believe in the FBI. We should ask the FBI and State Police, even the internal affairs officers of City police, to get plain cloths agents and officers to circulate though our crowds, fish out the drugs, criminals and potential terrorists, while also busting cops, when they go Roddy King style, on people. Also, if security in imbedded within our protest crowd, then Cities can greatly reduce the uniformed police presence. Think of Disney World security. Do you see security everywhere, at Disney, no? The Government and the protestors would be better off with an imbedded security, rather than surrounding peaceful protestors with uniform wearing, often unecessarily violent, police.

[-] 1 points by StevenRoyal (490) from Dania Beach, FL 2 years ago

Who needs the CIA when you have private citizens who have been programmed to HATE liberals and love the second amendment?

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

You've got a point... but your run-of-the-mill hate-filled private citizen is rarely clever enough to pull off anything really devious (although there are exceptions like Timothy McVeigh). The REALLY dirty tricks usually have CIA written all over them.

[-] 1 points by pissedoffconstructionworker (602) 2 years ago

One thing is for sure: dirty tricks are coming. We haven't seen anything yet.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

VERY dirty tricks are coming.... that's the sad truth. Is OWS READY for them? Are there any special measures that could be taken ahead of time, so as to outwit the enemy?

[-] 1 points by pissedoffconstructionworker (602) 2 years ago

Yes, I'm worried about this.

One thing I'm pretty sure is coming is a late-night bust-up of the park, once the guard is down.

We need a contingency plan for that to put into effect quickly.

As far as ratfucking, I think the headless, decentered organization is pretty resilient.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

"HilscherBanned" was outed as a TROLL several days ago. He is a troll of the "agent provocateur" variety - extremely dangerous - and SHOULD BE BANNED immediately from this site.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

It can just go to another site

[-] -1 points by Joeschmoe1000 (270) 2 years ago

Yeah so when anOWS shithead stabs someone on the street, someone's mom or dad, it will be the result of a vast CIA conspiracy.

Go Mae Brussel!