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Forum Post: EU wins the Nobel Peace Prize? Is this a joke?

Posted 1 year ago on Oct. 12, 2012, 6:13 p.m. EST by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA
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ATHENS, Oct 12 (Reuters) - "Is this a joke?" said Chrisoula Panagiotidi, 36, an Athens beautician, laughing derisively upon hearing that the European Union had won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Three days ago she lost her job, becoming one of the one-in-four Greeks who is unemployed in the fifth year of a biting recession. Told it was no joke at all, her incredulity quickly turned to disgust.

"It mocks us and what we are going through right now," she said. "All it will do is infuriate people here."

Across a continent where the EU's policies are blamed for deepening the worst economic crisis in living memory, many Europeans said they were simply baffled by the prize. Others were outraged.

"I can't get my head around it. They'd be last on my list. It's such a bland and inert organisation," said Philip Deane, 48, an IT consultant walking along the River Liffey in Dublin.

"Given the state of the economy, the timing is really, really bad."

Ireland, like Greece, has been forced to turn to the European Union and IMF for a financial bailout, delivered in the framework of a strict austerity programme.

Mariana Fotiou, 69, an Athens lottery ticket vendor was furious.

"It makes me so angry. We have a financial war on, don't they realise that? The only morale it will boost is Merkel's," she said, referring to the German chancellor, whose insistence on austerity measures as the price for aid has made her a hate figure in Greece.

Earlier this week Merkel visited Athens. Protesters burned Nazi flags and clashed with police in fury at her presence.

The irony of awarding the prize at a time when the EU is being pilloried in several European capitals, occasionally by crowds of rioters, was not lost on the Nobel Committee itself.

"The EU is currently undergoing grave economic difficulties and considerable social unrest. The Norwegian Nobel Committee wishes to focus on what it sees as the EU's most important result: the successful struggle for peace and reconciliation and for democracy and human rights," said Nobel Committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland in announcing the award in Oslo.

Ed Balls, a politician from the opposition British Labour Party, joked at a panel discussion in Dublin: "They'll be cheering in Athens tonight, won't they."

"SUFFERING BUT NOT DYING"

Yet even in countries hard hit by the tough economic times, there were still many people who said they understood the logic of awarding a prize to an organisation credited with helping maintain peace for more than half a century on a continent that was ripped apart in two world wars.

"It's a good thing," said 48-year-old Howard Spilane in Ireland, where unemployment has tripled since the crisis hit.

"Europe's in a crisis, but compared to the wars - even compared to the Cold War - Europe is in a better place. People are suffering, but they are not dying. On balance they have achieved a lot."

Such warm responses were also common in parts of Eastern Europe, where many prize membership in the EU as a badge of hard-won European identity and a bulwark against a return of Communist-era totalitarianism.

"I am glad of it, although I do find it strange," said Andras Kocsis, an 18-year-old student in Budapest, the Hungarian capital. "I think it's right, because indeed the EU does a lot for the rights of the people."

But even in the ex-Communist countries, praise was far from universal for an organisation that many have come to resent.

Petr Hajek, deputy head of the office of Czech President Vaclav Klaus, who once supported the EU but has since turned against it, said the EU lacked "democratic legitimacy" and was contributing to "animosity among nations".

"Freedom and democracy are shivering in the corner similar to the way it was in the regimes we experienced in the 20th century in Europe," he said.

In Bosnia, which hopes to join the bloc but still remembers how a hesitant and divided EU stood by during its 1992-95 war, Kada Hotic called the award "shameful". Her son, husband and two brothers were among 8,000 Muslim men and boys massacred by Bosnian Serb forces in 1995.

"The EU had an obligation to protect minorities in Europe but was incapable or unwilling to protect Muslims in Bosnia and even today it is doing so little to prevent conflicts across the world," she said.

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[-] 4 points by shadz66 (17974) 1 year ago

EU - Peace Prize ?! "War Is Peace" & "Truth Is Lies" and George Orwell spins in his grave !

Eric Blair / George Orwell also said : "Political language. . . is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind." !!

Don't forget other recipients like Obomber & Kissinger too !!!

pax...

[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Max Keiser on the "award";

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Se78-smU4

[-] 3 points by Renneye (3166) 1 year ago

Lol!! That was priceless! I love Max...thanks Builder!

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (17974) 1 year ago
[-] 2 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 1 year ago

Kissinger won the Nobel Prize? When did that happen?

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (17974) 1 year ago

'He' who should be nameless, 'won' in 1973 :

Undeserved, unbelievable, unlikely - but alas, somehow true.

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 2 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 1 year ago

Wow then its been a sham alot longer than I realized.

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Yup.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (17974) 1 year ago

Again 'PK' - "George Orwell said : "Political language ... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by prometheis (63) 1 year ago

Please don't use the word Kissinger. Language like that should be disallowed in polite society.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (17974) 1 year ago

LOL & a good point ; well made. See my answer and link to 'PK' above for more outrageous truths.

pax et lux ...

[-] 4 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

Jagland and Lundestad have wanted this for a long time now. Finally their wish came true – unfortunately. Jagland is an EU-fanatic, I’m not surprised.

It's highly inappropriate to give this prize in a time where an increasing number of people are getting their lives ruined because of EU's neo-liberal policies and financial crisis.

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (17974) 1 year ago

Julian Assange should have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize and by ignoring him and his plight and the consequences of all that he has done so much to bring light to, The 'Ignoble' Nobel Committee show themselves for what they are ... Co-Opted Establishment Politicians. The fkn EU members have been bombing the shit out of people all around the world, eg. Afghanistan : http://icasualties.org/oef/ !! How many of 'Coalition Of The Complicit' are in the EU? Libya? Iraq? 'Peace', my (x) & WAR goes on!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Exactly - some one shining the light on what is wrong in this world - and instead of being recognized as a hero is instead vilified. Fucked up if you ask me.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (17974) 1 year ago

When Obomber and Kissinger and once wanted terrorist Menachem Begin are also Nobel Peace Prize winners - you just know that it's time to name it 'The Ignoble Piss Prize' !!

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Piss Prize is correct. Whole damn program is a sham.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (17974) 1 year ago

I'll tell you an even bigger joke - 'The Nobel Prize for Economics', lol & weary sigh !!

bed time so too tired for Latin ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Good night - let us hope we can put an end to their insanity soon.

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (21783) 1 year ago

I'm disgusted.

[-] 2 points by Ache4Change (3025) 1 year ago

The EU deserves the Nobel Peace Prize just like I deserve the Nobel Prize for Literature for simply writing this comment!

[-] 2 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 1 year ago

First Obama,Now this.When does Gold-saks get the prize in economics?

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

They gave it to Friedman, so you never know..

[-] 2 points by NVPHIL (667) 1 year ago

It's disgusting. Whe did the nobel peace prize change from a recognition of the best among us to an award to help legitimize those in power?

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20500) 1 year ago

Just bizarre.

[-] 3 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 1 year ago

Apparently the Nobel peace prize doesn't mean shit anymore

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20500) 1 year ago

The more I think about this, the more sickening it is.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

Nobel's invention made murder less accurate with canned explosions of algae shell earth sponged nitroglycerin

[-] 2 points by trashyharry (788) from Waterville, NY 1 year ago

Obama has created a Kill List and promotes Death in many ways.Now the EU has won!Even though the EU is one of the world's foremost promoters of suicide and Death! Because of austerity measures in Greece,addicts are deliberately infecting themselves with HIV because that's the only way they can get into a rehab! Now somebody needs to change the name of this prize to The Nobel Death Prize! OMG-just what we need!

[-] 1 points by Barfnow (-16) 1 year ago

Why ?They gave it to Obama before he'd done anything.

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Remember Obama got NObel prize on the eve of sending more troops to Afghanistan or something, im not sure. it is kind of joke. because probably the chief of UN going to pit the dogs very soon to the Syria. (im not talking about BANKi MOON, im talking about number one country chief)Turkey long time helping "rebels" already and ready to pick the fight

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Why not give it straight to the terrorist governments NATO installed in Libya and Kosovo?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4024) 1 year ago

They give them away, for anything these days.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

The Nobel Peace Prize goes to the peace of the prison yard, run for the benefit of the bankster class.

[-] 0 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 1 year ago

Makes sense to me. This is exactly the kind of time when war would have broken out in Europe before the EU.

[-] 0 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

considering recent winners, why are you surprised?

[-] 4 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 1 year ago

I'm not sure which is worse Obama winning while about to send 40,000 troops to Afghanistan or the Eu while engaging in Economic terrorism

[-] 5 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

and after choosing a VP in Biden who voted to go to war in Iraq because of their alleged WMD threat to America. A war which they both voted to fund as Senators together.

....all while America's prison system continues to grow with the world's largest political prisoner system in the world too.

Economic terrorism takes many forms. The EU also had massive protests and police brutality.

Which is worse? No, sir, I don't like it.

[-] 4 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Dont forget a lot of those prisoners serve their time, and then are stripped of their voting rights as well.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

And have trouble getting a job because of their "possession record"

[-] 0 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

the "peace" prize is a political thing.

[-] -3 points by yobstreet (-575) 1 year ago

Truthfully this year's prize belongs to Merkel.