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Posted 2 years ago on July 21, 2015, 10:49 p.m. EST by MattHolck0 (3867)
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Daniel Wickham ‏@DanielWickham93 13h13 hours ago

EU calls on Israel to halt plans for the "forced transfer of population & demolition of housing" in West Bank village

EU foreign ministers have called on Israel to halt plans for the “forced transfer of population and demolition of Palestinian housing” in the West Bank village of Khirbet Susiya amid growing concerns that it may be knocked down in the coming days.

In a statement, the European foreign ministers echoed a warning delivered by the US government over the fate of the community of 350 in the south Hebron Hills.

Last week, John Kirby, a US State Department spokesman, warned that any demolition or evictions would be “harmful and provocative”. He said: “We’re closely following developments and we strongly urge the Israeli authorities to refrain from carrying out any demolitions in the village.”

Fears for the community have been growing since a visit by a senior Israeli military officer, who told villagers that 37 dwellings had been earmarked for demolition ahead of a scheduled appeal hearing on 3 August.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/21/israel-demolition-palestinian-village-khirbet-susiya-eu-protest

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[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

''Human rights and anti-war group CODEPINK, which has been advocating on behalf of the Iran nuclear deal—which will prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons in return for lifting US sanctions on the country, and which is supported by the overwhelming majority of the international community—has been closely monitoring the planned trips.

“AIPAC trips to Israel are designed to give congresspeople a one-sided view of the region, the view of Bibi Netanyahu,” remarked CODEPINK National Coordinator Alli McCracken. “With war and peace in the balance, perhaps the Congresspeople should take a side trip to Iran to get a more balanced picture.”

From: ''AIPAC Taking All But 3 Freshmen Congresspeople to Israel in Effort to Sabotage Iran deal'' by Ben Norton - http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/freshmen-congresspeople-sabotage

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

Iran nuclear deal seems like a side show to me compared to the bombs being dropped next door in Iraq and Syria

[-] 1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

''How US Allies Aid Al Qaeda in Syria'' by Daniel Lazare ..

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42554.htm

Yes, you have a point there re ''side show'' re. Iran but is not that to Nutjobyahoo .. I can assure you of that. Please read that excellent article for some deep insights - the author seems to knows his onions!

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

i don't believe in al qaeda

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

oach

look's like someone that still believes in Al Qaeda down voted me

Kidnap the Sandy Claws

[-] 1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Well - it certainly wasn't me lol - as I don't have a vote but in many ways, I agree with what you say re. A-Q tho' this has real value too - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39603.htm (Video and Transcript) Thanks for the creepy 'Sandy Claws' video btw, especially as I'm for my bed now! Solidarity. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Btw the above was my initial reply to you Matt, that was ''Removed'' for no good reason other than spite.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

tricky quantum communications

[-] 1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Thom Hartmann on Nutjobyahoo & maybe Thom could try some 't q c' on that Warmonger

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/32256-if-you-liked-the-iraq-war-you-ll-love-the-iran-war

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

why pay heed to anyone advocating war ?

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

''The Fake War on ISIS: US and Turkey Escalate in Syria'' by Eric Draitser http://journal-neo.org/2015/08/02/the-fake-war-on-isis-us-and-turkey-escalate-in-syria/ and also see ...

The ''Imperialist Powers Prepare Another Military Intervention In Libya'' by Jean Shaoul .. http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/08/05/liby-a05.html = a very important perspective.

You ask a very good question but sadly warmongers and corporate imperialists still abound, as do their pseudo-liberal apologists, whose mouths become closed & brains shut down when there's a Democratic POTUS as the (s)elected Emperor 'du jour'. Your consistent anti-war & imperialism voice is appreciated.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

sounds like a game

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Oh, it's "a game'' alright but deadly as hell and so much more than initially meets the eye!

http://occupywallst.org/forum/bernie-sanders-position-on-the-iran-deal/#comment-1064916

Also Matt - IF you can face it .. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42567.htm

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

The US supported a weapons distribution group in Afghanistan in the 80s when russia tried to control the mountain people.

It seems military tactics never change

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

With reference to Afghanistan - "Graveyard of Empires" but alas also an early grave for so many of its long suffering people, please consider the following points and observations:

1) Afghanistan is a multi-ethnic country, made up of Aimaks, Baluchis, Hazaras, Kazahks, Kirghis, Pamiris, Tajhiks, Turkmen, Uzbeks & at ~42% of the total population, the largest single group, the Pashtuns/Pukhtoons (depending on Northern or Southern dialect).

2) The historical Pashtun homeland is divided in two by the Afghan / Pakistan border. This totally porous "border" is in effect the old "Durand Line", the de facto western territorial limit of the British Empire in the Indian subcontinent. The Pashtuns have NEVER recognised this arbitrary line on someone else's map & no external power or authority has ever been able to define it, let alone patrol or police it.

3) Pashtun society is extremely conservative, deeply traditional, unrelentingly patriarchal and tribal. The Women lead difficult lives far removed from any "Liberal Western Norms". A Pashtun is a member of a family group, a sub-clan,a clan and then a tribe. At over 45 million people globally, they are the world's largest tribally affiliated ethnic group.

4) Conservative Sunni Islam and the 'Lex Talionis', Pre-Islamic honour code, "Pashtunwalli", are the law, organisational guidelines and ethical principles by which this proud, fiercely independent and very hardy mountain people, regulate their society alongside and within their Jirga/Shura/Majlis collective decision making & gathering systems.

5) The phrase "Revenge is a dish best served cold", is the English approximation & appropriation of the Pashtun original. Another Pashtun dictum is: "Me against my brothers ; me & my brothers against my cousins; me, my brothers & my cousins against the world". Pashtun males are considered adult at 13 years of age and are honour bound to defend "Zan, Zhar, Zamin" - 'Women, Wealth & Land'. Notions of loyalty and duty to kith & kin, honour, respect, shame, "not losing face" and "dying on one's feet rather than living on one's knees" are central to their world view & way of life and death.

6) The word "Taliban" translates as "Students", as they were originally recruited, equipped & organised with the enthusiastic help, encouragement and funding of the Saudis, ISI, MI6 & CIA from the Madrasas (religious schools) in the numerous Pashtun refugee camps, during and after the war to oust the Soviet armed forces and the devastating civil war that followed it.Their grandfathers and their fathers were then of course, known and eulogised as the "Mujahideen". This word "Taliban" is now very little more than an obfuscatory, propagandist and subversive "meme" for what is now in actuality, under various names and guises - 'The Pashtun Nationalist Resistance Movement'.

7) The peoples of present day Afghanistan, whether Pashtun or otherwise - are the time served 'world champions' of guerilla warfare & insurgency. No army or empire has ever been able to totally defeat & dominate them. (Alexander the Great's) Greek, Scythian, Hepthalite, Bactrian, Persian, Mongol, Arab, Turkic, British & Russian armies have all been severely mauled & bloodied at some time or other and have had to retreat, assimilate, pay tribute to or come to an accommodation with, these fierce & warlike peoples, especially now after they've been helped and supplied by the CIA et al to defeat the Russians!

8) The Americans, despite their massive military superiority, are the latest to learn these same painful lessons. This time however, the whole world is (quite intentionally?!!) further driven towards a "Clash of Civilisations", as advocated by the NeoCons : Samuel Huntington ; William Safire ;Thomas Friedman ; Charles Krauthammer ; Donald, Robert & Fred Kagan ; Norman & John Podhoretz ; Richard & Daniel Pipes ; Irving & Bill Kristol ; Richards, Perle & Haas ; Pauls. Bremer & Wolfowitz ; The US-MIC & the Corporate MSM at large.

9) This PNAC/NeoCon ambition, aspiration and world view stimulates and is mirrored by (as predicted by the Probability Gamers in Herzliya & Langley!) the grand "End Time Schematic" of a few thousand Jihadis worldwide, whose fanaticism & fury ; rage & resistance is fuelled, stoked and provoked by the Scientific Uber-Violence and Imperial Jackboot of the "Coalition of the Complicit", under the aegis and 'Blood Spattered Banner' of the ''Usurped States of Amnesiacs".

10) What the Warmongering US "National Security"/Military/Industrial/Corporate/Banking cliques did NOT seem to know of the Buddhist Vietnamese, in that they were a fiercely independent people, who had fought the Mongol, Khmer, Chinese, Japanese & French Imperiums before they defeated the USA so do they NOW seem NOT to know of the Muslim Afghans.

11) consider that perhaps an Unending War is just what is Really Wanted by the Dark Forces of The Bankster-U$/MIC Nexus. After all, as 9/!! was the declared raison d'etre for the Illegal and Immoral War on Afghanistan but as that heinous attack had nothing to do with Afghans or Afghanistan, then ... ?!

12) That this Empire and 'WARFARE' abroad and Austerity and 'UNFAIR' at home - this horror, hubris and hypocrisy, just goes on and on and on on - in Afghanistan or elsewhere. Sadly, "the propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human" (Aldous Huxley) and that ''It seems military tactics never change''!

13) Finally, fyi: ''Did 9/11 Justify the War in Afghanistan ?'' by the deeply insightful, Dr. David Ray Griffin: http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-9-11-justify-the-war-in-afghanistan/19891 sigh :-( & also ... "The Grand Chessboard'', by Zbigniev Brzezinksi : http://www.takeoverworld.info/Grand_Chessboard.pdf [PDF of the whole book] and .. http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/11/14/afghan-opium-production-hits-all-time-high/

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[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

greece subject to predatory lending just like here with realestate in the US

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

''Why I Support the BDS Movement Against Israel'' , by Chris L. Hedges:

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_i_support_the_bds_movement_against_israel_20150726

''The Palestinians are poor. They are powerless. They have no voice or influence in the halls of power. They are demonized. They do not have well-heeled lobbyists doling out campaign contributions and pushing through pro-Palestinian legislation. No presidential candidate is appealing to donors—as Hillary Clinton did when she sent a letter to media mogul Haim Saban denouncing critics of Israel—by promising to advance the interests of the Palestinian people. Palestinians, like poor people of color in the United States, are expendable.

''Justice for Palestine will never come from the traditional governmental institutions or political parties that administer power. These institutions have surrendered to moneyed interests. Justice will come only from us. And the sole mechanism left to ensure justice for Palestine is the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel. Sanctions brought down the apartheid regime of South Africa. And they are what will bring down the apartheid regime of Israel. BDS is nonviolent. It appeals to conscience. And it works.

''Israel is not an anomaly. It is a window into the dystopian, militarized world that is being prepared for all of us, a world with vast disparities of income and draconian systems of internal security. There will be no freedom for Palestine, or for those locked in our own internal colonies and terrorized by indiscriminate police violence, until we destroy corporate capitalism and the neoliberal ideology that sustains it.

''There will be no justice for Michael Brown until there is justice for Mohammed Abu Khdeir. The fight for the Palestinians is our fight. If the Palestinians are not liberated none of us will be liberated. We cannot pick and choose which of the oppressed are convenient or inconvenient to defend. We will stand with all of the oppressed or none of the oppressed. And when we stand with the oppressed we will be treated like the oppressed.''

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

the US is hardly an example to follow bombing seven nations and all

[-] 1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Re. ''bombing'' - it's a whole lot more than just ''seven'', I think! Also fyi, pls see - http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/32045-sounds-of-war-navy-warplanes-producing-deadly-noise-around-us-bases

Furthermore please also consider ... http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/32002-learning-war-an-educational-historian-s-perspective - a deeply thought provoking piece into the roots of militarism.

[-] 1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Consider - ''Israeli Think Tank With GOP Ties at Center of Iran Deal Opposition'' - by Daniela Cheslow ...

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/32109-israeli-think-tank-with-gop-ties-at-center-of-iran-deal-opposition

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

Israel military the US military lapdog

i Find this whole nuclear deal with Iran to be a distraction from the US will to rue through violence in the mideast

there are many countries with nuclear bombs and they don't use them

the only country to ever use a nuclear bomb is the US

and the US is not talking about reducing its arsenal

The republican / democrat fight is a dog and pony show

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Consider that ''On the 70th anniversary of the use of nuclear weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it is past time for the United States to change course. Rather than pursue current plans to spend $1 trillion on modernizing its nuclear arsenal, the United States should lead the world in negotiations to achieve the phased, verifiable, irreversible and transparent elimination of nuclear weapons. This would make the world safer.'' - From .. http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/32073-the-us-should-eliminate-its-nuclear-arsenal-not-modernize-it + Right re. "dog and pony'' / ''donkey an elephant'' but not totally sure who is whose ''military lapdog''!

[-] 1 points by grapes (4989) 2 years ago

Israel should take up its occupier's burden and show the subjects that the new residences for them have water, sewerage, electricity, transportation, good schools, libraries, a livelihood, etc. It is all occupiers' burden to improve the lives of their subjects.

The U.S. takes care of its illegal immigrants' kids, too. Whichever jurisdiction finds them being in takes up its burden.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Wage PEACE ?!?!?!?

How radical.

Bound to piss off arms manufacturers though. If TPP goes through they would likely sue for lost profits.

[-] 1 points by grapes (4989) 2 years ago

No, not radical but how conservative. That is just ancient value. Arms manufacturers will get better things to do: build them microwave ovens, optical fiber links, tablet computers, solar hot water heaters, cellular phones, radio and television sets, clothes and dish washers, vacuum cleaners, roller blades, electronic music keyboards, espresso machines, blenders, refrigerators, etc.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Instead of beating swords into plowshares - beat drones into water purification plants and such.

Yep - look how far we have fallen from our expressed ideals on how to spread peace and prosperity and in doing so do away with armed conflicts.

And it can't all be blamed on the for profit/greed angle - because there is plenty of opportunity for making astronomical profits (feed major greed) from waging peace.

[-] 1 points by grapes (4989) 2 years ago

Two people look at the same plot of sun-drenched land with dead shriveled plants.

One was depressed by the sun-dried desert-like ruins but the other one was overjoyed with excitement. Why?

One was a city folk without much experience of growing plants but the other grew up with plants so solar-still greenhouse with blooming flowers and fruit trees flashed into mind. With a vision, sand grains can look like supercomputing brains.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Perspective. Not everyone sees the same possibilities. It's good to look at different perspectives - "with" an eye for in the end doing something positive - beneficial "for life".

[-] 1 points by grapes (4989) 2 years ago

This is where humility is called for and we ask, "Do you see what I see?" Everyone is different so we experience the same reality differently. Tolerance of diversity helps getting to "positive" although some will face in the opposite direction and call ours "negative."

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The "melting pot" has made the USA truly great to this point in time.

Sad seeing so many idiots attacking what made us great.

[-] 1 points by grapes (4989) 2 years ago

The "melting pot" metaphor is not as good as the "accretion disc" metaphor. Look at Saturn's rings, a pulsar's, or a black hole's. They yield collisions in the disc but there is an order imposed on them. Sometimes, poorly managed "melting" can burn much to soot. Ghettos must be broken up gradually, with the families with kids going first.

Idiots are people, too. They are just outliers who come with our Real Atlantis exploring all possibilities. Innovations come from the jostling of ideas and there is little doubt that the U.S. has been a very innovative society at the cost of being a lunatic asylum at times.

[-] 1 points by grapes (4989) 2 years ago

In the beginning, there was not much just about anywhere. Now there is much that can be made and have been proven to work.

Our illegal immigrants from Mexico did not become terrorists much even after our exaggerated concerns after 9/11/2001. Perhaps our social policies helped. It makes sense that we may keep at least some of the illegal immigrants' kids here without deportation because we took care of them, unlike the other countries' scholars whom we really did not nurse.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

The Trail of the Troika

the IMF, the European Central Bank and the European Commission.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42394.htm

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Can we imagine what a froth of indignation, fury and self righteousness would be created by MSM - IF a Palestinian had burnt to death and murdered a Jewish 18 month old boy, and inflicted 90% burns on his mother and injured his brother & dad OR if a Palestinian had attacked a Gay Pride march in Jerusalem?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-killing-of-ali-saad-dawabsha-will-not-be-the-last/

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/30/up-to-six-stabbed-at-gay-pride-march-in-jerusalem

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/31/the-murder-of-ali-saad-dawabsha-a-palestinian-infant-burned-alive-by-israeli-zealots/

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/32197-condemn-the-killing-of-ali-dawabsha-but-don-t-ignore-the-roots-of-hatred