Forum Post: Ethics
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 9, 2011, 8:12 p.m. EST by gawdoftruth
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General
- Endeavor to do the least possible or no harm to all persons, property, life, liberty, livelihood, environment, self, others, family, community, Country, World, Economies, Children, Elders, Workers, Voters, and Ecosystems. (And so forth.)
- Endeavor to make all of ones labor to meet ones own needs also coincide with the maximum energy potential of benefit to others. Practice the law of charity and reap the rewards of the law of karma. Give your best to others and go the extra mile, for the good of all, for the benefit of all of ones relations.
- Emotions derive from primary instincts. Flight renders fear and fight renders Rage.
- Emotional Energies are best resolved via right action problem solving process, not allowing emotion to guide or control ones thinking or process.
- The 1st and second principle applies as a matrix to the whole Needs Pyramid. That Pyramid consists of Physical needs at the base, social needs, emotional needs, mental needs and spiritual needs at the top.
- We only move up through the pyramid of needs one need at a time and in order of priority for survival. Needs are coded as instincts that drive all of human behavior. All behavior is tactic to meet ones needs. Behavior which harms others or which fails to benefit the whole of society is unethical behavior, but it must be understood to exist as a psychology which is an instinct attached to a bad problem solving tactic. People only act to meet their needs, if they act badly, what they need to act better is a better tactic.
- Thus do no harm and work for the good of all as you climb your pyramid of needs and be cognizant of what your needs are, and lucid in terms of having good tactics that are socially beneficial for meeting your needs.
- Most morality can be expressed as iterations of the do no harm rule. Do no harm against ones relationship with spirit, Do no harm which would kill another person, do no harm by stealing or thieving, do no harm by potentially transmitting STDS i.e., law against Adultery, the list goes on etc; most of the Ten Commandments can be rewritten as specific details of the do no harm rule.
- Ethics is the process of reconciling the needs of society with the drives of the Reptilian and Mammalian Brain and thus Ethics are the laws of nature which allow us to exist in peace as a culture or society instead of continuing the law of the jungle.
- We are spirits in animal bodies, and there is a law of the jungle under our skins which must be somehow evolved and cultivated into cooperation (and cooperative process) rather than violence (and violence as a problem solving process.) The law of the jungle is violence. The law of Angels is Cooperation.
- Everything is connected to everything else, thus anything you do to another you do to yourself. This becomes increasingly true as the law of karma carries out its permutation selections of what would otherwise be random chance rendering thus synchronicities.
- A person cannot obtain waking altered states of consciousness until they resolve the assorted shadow issues of the Mammalian and Reptilian Mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cbUAwCE7JVY#t=48s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxmtreWQoVs&feature=player_profilepage
This is a rather anonymous SONG-CHANT-RANT offering, that will hopefully unify our message on the streets. Imparting some basic historical information that has lead to the continued debasing of free forms of Government. Where a select group of power seekers never seem to have enough of anything, including us.This is a very serious time for the FREE Global Community, our only weapon is Martin Luther King's legacy. They further try to discredit us with accusations of not having a coherent message when their only endgame is to further in-slave us! Abusing others until there is only two classes the Haves and Have-Not's. we’ just not gonna’ take it no more we’ just not gonna’ take it no more we’ just not gonna’ take it no more
nothing’s been the same since jfk eisenhower warned us it would get this way a vast military-industrial-complex a vast military-industrial-complex
were out here to show the one percentors we’ just not gonna’ take it no more we’ just not gonna’ take it no more
oly norquist pledged most congress (oly’ = satire oliver north)
to his power lil’ oly’ norquist pledged most congress (piglet)
to his power
we’ know who you are were’ tired of our voices not counting
we’ just not gonna’ take it no more we’ just not gonna’ take it no more we’ just not gonna’ take it no more
were out on the streets to get our “countries” back
until foreign trade benefits---the 99%
were out on the streets to get our “countries” back
until foreign trade benefits---the 99%
were’ just not gonna’ take it no more were’ just not gonna’ take it no more were’ just not gonna’ take it no more
so, your’ spreadin’ democracy all over --the world your’ spreadin’ democracy all over --the world
it’s gotten’ so corrupt even we---don’t understand it!
so, your’ spreadin’ democracy all over --the world spreadin’ your’ democracy all over --the world
it’s gotten’ so corrupt even we---don’t understand it!
bring back our soldiers’s your cor-poor-et wars are all over bring back our soldiers’s your cor-poor-et wars are all over
were out here to show the one percentors we’ just not gonna’ take it no more we’ just not gonna’ take it no more
it’s too bad we hav-at spell it out but liars never listen they just -run their mouths
a thousand point of light all over the world
a new world order the bil-dah-burgers can go to hell
were’ just not gonna’ take it no more were’ just not gonna’ take it no more were’ just not gonna’ take it no more------
were’ just not gonna’ take it no more!
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The "law" of Karma?
Just brilliant!
What a fucking idiot!
ad hom reflex? brilliant. what a fucking troll. thanks for proving i am right due to your inability to cogitate an argument.
You want an argument to something that doesn't exist? Yes I am a troll ! I do not agree with your stupidity, arrogance & naivete. Do you have a job?
i wake up stupid ignorant sheeple and try to save the humans. thats my job. Its a fortunate thing too because otherwise humans would have to deal with fucktards like you mucking up the works without a significant threat to your BS and noise.
Something that doesn't exist. You don't know that it does not exist you can only believe that it doesn't.
Until you can obtain waking theta brainwave states of consciousness, you are a monkey trapped in a beta brainwave condition. You have no clue. Get off your high horse and quit being a tool for the corporate oligarchy by denying all of the rest of reality. materialism ain't working.
everything is connected at the quantum level and those connects operate according to simple principles found other places in science including the "for ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction." same thing. Your inability to know or grasp the truth of subtle reality is YOUR insanity- and your problem.
As Julie Andrews once said, "lets start at the very beginning. Its a very good place to start."
Real social and Civil Evolution must start within each of us. WE have to make a transition to being different kinds of people. No longer products of our environment, but cocreators of a new and better possible reality. "Free Will" is for the most part an illusion, until we can see the ways in which we are influened and controlled and manipulated, until we can lucidly apprehaned the many ways in which society and civilization program us, and start fully taking back that power.
The first genuine steps towards positive evolution and positive social and civil change is to change ourselves. To give up being violent, to give up being angry, to give up fighting over it, and hardest of all, to give up having opinions and dogmas and begin our own quest and committment for the truth based on real research and real working together.
The Human brain has four main gears. Four operating conditions. As measured by electro-ensephalography. These are; Beta Brainwave states, Alpha Brainwave states, Delta Brainwave states, and Theta Brainwave states. (There are other kinds of brainwaves, but they are not as fundmantal.) Each kind of brainwave is actually active at all times. What determines the actual kind of state a person is in is which type of brainwave is actually dominant. Beta Brainwaves are the states which relate to physical activity, normative waking, verbal language, and the ego condition. Alpha brainwaves are the states which relate to Whole mind conversation, hypnosis, hypnogogia and hypnogogic states, first level relaxation and early sleep, and which connect the mind to itself as a whole organism. (whereas beta brainwaves place the ego mind as the pilot of the body, alpha brainwaves place the ego mind as part of the whole mind. ) Delta brainwaves states relate to deeper sleep, Peace, restfullness, and happen naturally as the rest of the brain becomes quiet or silent. And Theta Brainwave states in sleep are the way that the mind reverses the normal mental boundaries and direction of flow of information in order to transmit a dream from the subconscious mind to the conscious mind.
Each of the last 3 states of consciousness can be experienced in a whole new way, while awake instead of sleeping. This is what is truly meant by and encoded into all the worlds religions. Wehre true or useful, a religion is a set of instructions in order to obtain these altered states of consciousness. Yeshua ben Yeoseph was adept at inducing Waking theta conditions in other people, (however, this has been lost and glossed over in the modern decay cycle,, it is what was really meant when they talked about "glossolallia"
This is what evolution calls us to do. And until we can obtain these states under our own control and guidance, we are hypnotizable, and civilization and marketing and cults can exploit the alpha brainwaves in order to control and manipulate us.
For this reason, The true power that we have towards free will hinges upon self exploration and self mastery, until we become competently able to achieve these states on our own, "Free Will" is mostly an illusion and we are blown about by dogmas, ideas, propagandas, and social influences without really the capacity to even see whats really going on.
BETA
Alpha 1.Alpha States are sustained by an internal dialogue of internal imagery or symbol pictographs or hieroglyphics.
DELTA
THETA
"Is there any way to test our brainwaves? I would love to be able to do this. It would be interesting for me.
I know I slip into Alpha a lot because I visualize so much. I've been doing it since I was a kid. I can actually imagine a turtle on the desk in front of me and almost see it walking around. I thought everyone could do this, and I've only realized lately that it might be an unusual trait.
I've definitely experienced other states though. It would be nice to actually see what they corresponded to. I know how they feel and it's definitely not normal beta or alpha.
Annette "
"Is there any way to test our brainwaves?"
Yes, and this is a fine question. There are ElectroEnsephalograph machines which can be used to record brainwave activity. These used to be extremely expensive, but have gotten to be now in the few hundred dollar range used. Also, there are simple criteria by which you can judge for yourself what state you are in. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elec...ephalogram
www.disability.vic.gov.au/bhcv2...logram
"I would love to be able to do this. It would be interesting for me."
If you just want a one time experience, you can probably con your doctor into setting up a monitoring session if you complain about some real or imagined psychology problems. lol. If you have the money to pay for it yourself, thats easy. There are also self help hypnotists, most of which are charlatans, but some few of which are pretty good, and you may be able to just find one in the phone book
who has the equipment and would let you use it for a nominal fee or energy exchange.
"I know I slip into Alpha a lot because I visualize so much. I've been doing it since I was a kid.
I can actually imagine a turtle on the desk in front of me and almost see it walking around. I thought everyone could do this, and I've only realized lately that it might be an unusual trait."
Yes, its interesting to realize wht most people are capable of versus what our potentials are. This was one of the most amazing parts of reading about psychology for me, is realizing all the things
i could do which were clearly uncommon which i had assumed everybody did.
"I've definitely experienced other states though. It would be nice to actually see what they corresponded to. I know how they feel and it's definitely not normal beta or alpha."
One thing to keep in mind is that each of these four main states is actually a set of spectrums of states. Beta condition might have alpha or delta or theta waves as the second most dominant pattern, for instance. In that sense, we can break things down further and think of there being 16 states; Beta/Beta, Beta/Alpha, Beta/Delta, Beta/Theta, Alpha/Alpha, Alpha/Beta, Alpha/Delta, Alpha/Theta, Delta/Delta, Delta/Beta, Delta/Alpha, Delta/Theta, Theta/Theta, Theta/Alpha, Theta/Delta, Theta/Beta. Plus, since any of these can be experienced while awake or asleep, that mutiplies times 2, so that gives us 32 states. And also, these are only the major brain wave patterns, there are other more minor patterns such as sigma and gamma waves.
So there are lots and lots of different states of consciousness.
Well written. Agree with most, except that Karma does not exist. What do exist however is the capability of people to understand when you are doing something for their own good instead of for your own good. This in turn could (but not necessarily) earn you good will.
okay, you know i have sometimes considered rewriting this for the atheist pov.
it was written actually directly to a religious community. but anyhow.
the point is. we need to get ethical and define ethics as christianity does not do that and etc, we don't have an ethical society ...
christianity doesn't?
Just because many purported christians do not ACT in an ethical manner doesn't mean that
1) christianity does not have ethics
2) they are even christians
sorry, christianity does not have ethics, it has morals. the morals they have lead them to be patently unethical, for instance, the world genocide spree, or, hate crimes against gays, or, etc joining forces with the republicans, or, etc, promoting assorted wars. Of course they are christians. What they are not is Yeshuans, and since yeshua ben yeoseph is the actual person that exists and "YSIUS Christos" really means DionYSIUS the annointed one, thats two roman words and one roman god half copied from actual reality and then spliced together with an older roman god. Modern "christians" have no clue what yeshua stood for and that is because the churches have always been patently evil.
i studied world religions, your not really going to yank my chain, just unleash the truth.
You're referring to Yeshua, as in, the literal Jesus of the bible?
the actual person, who existed, that the bible is loosely based on, in conjunction with Dionysius, how did you miss this? yeah, what did i just say?
the literal "jesus" of the bible is a fiction. Yeshua was a real person.
"jesus" is just dionYSIUS slurred to JSIUS and then adding in that E while dropping the I.
I think the Wikan's have a saying"If it harms none, do as you will."
The tricky part is figuring out if someone will be harmed or not by our actions/inaction.
Most harm comes when you stop looking at a living being as a living being and instead look at them as an object to be used or an obstacle. An interesting thing is that we are all able to do this. For example, does a person that eat a hamburger thinks of the suffering of the cow?
No,.I think on how good it taste.
Well, the same writing applies when interacting with another human being. Most people do harm not because of hate, but because of apathy. Forgetting to think what is to be on another persons shoes. I guess this is whats behind the condensation of capital over the world.
yes. the complexity comes in types of harm, which can be mapped logically to the needs, physical harm, social harm, emotional harm, mental harm, and spiritual harm.
Wicca, Wiccans.. ...So we need to see how simple it can be on the one hand but then find meaningful ways to address the complexity of it all.
my man
Unfortunately for us we do live in a negative society where our very own negative economic system strive exclusively on production and consumption only to end-up three months later in a mound of garbage at the dump site. It hurts me to think that I do spend 8 hour every day (I know, I’m lucky to have a job) producing one of the most bogus product ever invented. This cannot be my reason for living in this society; get up, go to work, come home, pay taxes, eat and go to sleep. It seems that this particular economic system only moves forward when chaos strikes. Someone must be sacrifice in order for some else to make a profit. In this society profit only happens at the expenses of the fellow man. Someone must get sick in order for the pharmaceuticals, hospitals and doctors to make a profit. Someone must be robbed so banks can make a profit. There are no limits when it comes to make a profit, anything goes; human lives, the environment, the rivers and the oceans, even space is been consider to store canisters of nuclear waste. We better change our savage capitalistic system before it destroys us. I do believe that this sort of unethical behavior is rooted at ancient misconseption.
this is the only link you need to spread my brother. http://www.radiokazoo.net/OPV/
yeah, your blurb is kewl but its not THAT kewl.
sorry not trying to be cool. where is your plan? where is your answer to fix every problem facing humanity. because thats exactly what my solution offers and i havent seen its equal. prove me wrong, impress me.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_163532010364963&view=doc&id=169262663125231#!/home.php?sk=group_163532010364963&view=doc&id=165096780208486 V.I.I.R.
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University Project First Steps
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University Project Brainstorm
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_163532010364963&view=docs#!/home.php?sk=group_163532010364963&view=doc&id=168142193237278
NICE University
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Psychonautics Textbook
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Socratic Method
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Different Kinds of Geothermal Power
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Common Myths and Misconceptions About Geothermal Power
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Zero Carbon Cities
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Energy cost Benefit Analysis
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Applications In Practice and Theory for Arcologies
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Mega Scale Engineering Criteria
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main Problems Clusters
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sugestions on how to proceed
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WAR vs Economic Social Justice
lol yeah i know i read all your links the other day. and ill say the same thing. these solutions offer no solution for the real 1 problem facing mankind. most of them are great ideas but still fall short of the ultimate goal of true freedom.
what is the real number one problem then.? and how do you define true freedom?
the unseen one world dictatorship. the real 1%. the small group of men who control the entire world through modern white collar slavery...aka. none of whom are on the forbes top ten. they are above the law and are the ones who forces us to be dependant on fossil feuls and they are the ones who instigate war, they are the ones who are the root of every problem i have read that the world has. True freedom to me is a life without social and economic restraints. the abiltiy to build and create as you wish, where you wish. im not saying without laws. laws are necessary but most of the ones we have are not. the laws of humanity should be able to be counted on your fingers and then some laws individualized by respective communities with specific laws for their areas given the circumstances for that region. how about you? same two questions...
i agree, thats the problem. my solutions do tackle that and in fact are the only thing i know of that effectively does.
give me your one link solution then. im not going to print out all your material and make a book to try and figure out how you would do it. you cant implement 100 ideas to change the world. i just want one ultimate solution. no confusion as to the object of how to remove the power from the 1%
real solutions require real world complexity. I can't give you a one link one page solution, thats impossible- your asking to stay ignorant and simple and not be forced to take on the complexity. I can't give that to you. Its the whole long list, and even more details i have yet to post on that list. If any of those details go missing the over all solution could fail.
im not asking to stay ignorant and simple. more like abridged. i know it requires real world complexities i have tons of ideas to fix alot of the small problems too but in order to do that we have to do something to be able have the means to do so and we cant get true freedom and global development and have money at the same time. the existence of money slows all progress to being able to have the money build and develop. its counterproductive.
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