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Forum Post: Enough Bullshit! 1-17-12 we make history...

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 11, 2011, 2:20 a.m. EST by ediblescape (235)
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[-] 2 points by ediblescape (235) 12 years ago

EternalRocksBeneath 2 days ago

I told my parents about this, and now my mom also wants to go. (Probably not just because she believes in the cause ,but to make sure my brother and I don't get pepper sprayed, etc. She's a little protective.)

[-] 1 points by waterrat478 (4) 12 years ago

The occupy movement is near pointless, because it is gutless. GO VOTE! The 1% has very few votes. Get yourself out to the polls and vote third party - who ever floats your boat, write in a candidate if you must - until there is a more even distribution of wealth. You wouldn't need 99% to get legislators attention. You have the power, you just don't use it. It doesn't require standing out in the cold, just checking a piece of paper. That would be a revolution. The message: We demand prosperity!

[-] 2 points by sato (148) 12 years ago

you mean that by voting in a representative democracy we have a say? that we can get the change we want just by voting? isnt that what we have been doing ? where is my change?

Lethal injection or Gas Chamber? You choose and tell me the difference

[-] 2 points by ediblescape (235) 12 years ago

Our political system does not work any more. We need a new system -GA system to replace it.

[-] 2 points by hamalmang (722) from Lebanon, PA 12 years ago

The occupy movement has awoken something that has laid dormant for my entire lifetime and longer. I wouldn't call that pointless and gutless. Practicing democracy only once every two or four years is gutless and pointless.

[-] 1 points by waterrat478 (4) 12 years ago

I'm glad you feel vindicated but I would prefer to see actual change.

[-] 1 points by hamalmang (722) from Lebanon, PA 12 years ago

They aren't just going to hand it to you. All of the rights that past Americans have won were taken, not granted. People in the streets is what affects change.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't vote. Just saying that we should do more than that because voting by itself obviously isn't working...

[-] 1 points by waterrat478 (4) 12 years ago

I really don't think that a high percentage of people has ever had the courage to risk having someone not from the two main parties elected - to risk our current government becoming unstable in the name of change.

Marching in the streets is fine, but so far as I can see real change could be made in the polls if enough people stood together there. Even if members of the main parties thought they stood a real chance of losing power they would assimilate your ideas as their own to appease you... The good these movements can do is to bring people together on such a resolution.

[-] 1 points by waterrat478 (4) 12 years ago

or have the courage to risk having the opposite party from the one they support elected for a term, because there really is such a difference between the two...

[-] -2 points by fandango (241) 12 years ago

van jones and george soros are the instigators of a one world govt. ows people are their "useful idiots"

[-] 1 points by rayl (1007) 12 years ago

fandango , where's the proof?

[-] -1 points by fandango (241) 12 years ago

I've been reading about these guys for years. Stretch you brain and and do some searches.

[-] 1 points by rayl (1007) 12 years ago

so you can't specify anything in particular to look up?

[-] 0 points by fandango (241) 12 years ago

is it that difficult for you to type in acorn, van jones, george soros, cloward , piven, agenda 21, bilderberg group?

[-] 1 points by rayl (1007) 12 years ago

that's really interesting. i've always thought a one world government would be the best way to manage the earth, i just never thought anyone was trying. thanks for the info!

[-] 0 points by fandango (241) 12 years ago

manage the earth? a one world govt will be fascist.

[-] 1 points by rayl (1007) 12 years ago

your presumption is not necessarily the form it will take. you're reacting emotionally (glen beck!). our present government is fascist. the us invaded iraq with no justification just like nazi germany invaded poland. in our constitution there are no provisions for a global military presence, which is what we currently have.

[-] 0 points by fandango (241) 12 years ago

"Global military presence"? The USA military is NOT in every country in the world.

[-] 1 points by rayl (1007) 12 years ago

it doesn't need to be in every country to have a global reach and more importantly, the threat potential

[-] 0 points by hamalmang (722) from Lebanon, PA 12 years ago

Wow you are so smart. You figured it all out I guess.

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[-] -1 points by BofL (434) 12 years ago

SOROS/Rothchild Hasbarabots run the show here, but a few interlopers catch the odd truth that slips in.

Hasbara is a concept "normal" people here aren't familiar with. It takes so many forms. Zionism is the political manifestation of Talmud, most holy book of Jews (most Jews) it’s fair to say. Until we are willing to address the fact that this is a “religious” supremacist movement used from one end to the other by Rothschild et al at the top end of the $ pyramid to dominate and manipulate the rest of the world including those at the bottom end of the "Jewish" pyramid and the entire pyramid scheme is designed to rest directly on the backs of “Goyim” non Jews the world over, we are subdividing the problem only looking at pieces of it, apologizing for the SOURCE. Talmud, it’s adherents, Jewish and non Jewish (I know people who operate by Talmudic principle who have never heard of it) are antithetical to common law principles. If you can agree that the 7 laws of Noah or the Ten Commandments are basically sound in principle, you can also say that Talmud is an 18 volume collection of Rabbinical sophistry designed to circumvent the law for Jews and only Jews. No such thing as "Jew" Things have specific names that represent predictable qualities and quantities.  Things like "frisbees(tm)" get special recognition for being representative of a product that is a small plastic flying disc.   Frisbees fly in any direction you throw them, with predictable results based on how you throw the disc, and let's say, weather conditions. Frisbees are made from plastic (other things are plastic that aren't frisbees)  I could probably list dozens of types of plastic.  There are cloth frisbees (flying discs) there are disc golf discs (or "frisbees"-to most observers who don't play frisbee or frisbee golf / disc golf, there is no difference between frisbee golf and any other game of frisbee.  There is ultimate frisbee-some type of team frisbee with scoring. How many colors are there of frisbees? How many sizes?  How many shapes? They ALL sail through the air gracefully when you throw them properly. Where does the Jew label come in?  There is NO predictable set of things a Jew is known to do.  All the things they ARE capable of: Infinite list of every kind of positive thing they can do and every kind of negative thing, every kind of imaginary thing.  The fiction is self perpetuating...a lie that got started, and rolled out of control.  The harder they try to make it all true, the more lies must be told. We have "Jew" as a racial distinction and disagreements as to qualifications within each of those subdivisions.  (Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Spinoza, yada yada...)  We have "Jew" meaning adherent to a religious doctrine.  Within this subset we have orthodox, reform, and others. Why "Jew" is SO diverse and unbounded by qualitative and quantitative meaning that this label can be of no use to us in reasoned discussion.   By allowing any discussion to be framed around anything "Jew"ish, it's as though we accept and ratify, sight unseen, tomes of Talmudic Sophistry, every person place thing or act that has ever been attributed to "Jews" since the beginning of written records (including all the fakes).   Why start from a lost position? Time to move on to addressing the problems that are being associated with Jews and Israel and make clear distinctions so we can divide and separate the real crimes of commission from the false ideas of pseudo religion/false origin and most especially, the ingrained squeamishness that prevents most people from seeing the problem.  The term "Jew" serves to obscure these criminals.  It has only the life we give to it.  Jew is a fiction-a STRAW MAN.   If frisbees started coming off the line that didn't fly-we wouldn't call them frisbees.  Why do we afford Jews the same kind of leeway.  That label doesn't fit anything.  It's pure equivocation.  It falls flat-it does NOT fly. I suppose It would be impossible for me to come to this conclusion without the entirety of my experience and education, and without the Jewish label attached to ao many people i have dealt with directly and indirectly. I'm sure we could not have caught the tail of the problem without an overwhelming mountain of evidence. The continuous identity theft and self abusing sophistry is a paper trail like none other.   These diverse tribal gangs march to a familiar drumbeat that is inaudible to the rest of us "normal" people.  However, by the time we "normal folk" waking as truth seekers, seem able to grasp at the name of this problem, history shows that we may again find the strawman * has a new name, and that we really only have hold of the tail. Forget the name. It's the thing they fear most-irrelevance. Truth. We must identify their codes, their systematic criminal methods. Read the manuals full of hate speech they use to train generations of extremeist supremacist criminals.   Talmud is one of these hatefull manuals (Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion is like Talmud for Dummies or Cliffs Notes).  Kaballah caballah -another. We lose the game before we even start when we write or speak "Jew" in a thought that is supposed to address concrete crimes they have commited or may be suffering (as a result).   The word itsself is subtle poison - toxic in any amount, and lethal in many cases, where people mistook strawmen for humans.

[-] 1 points by hamalmang (722) from Lebanon, PA 12 years ago

hahahahaha