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Forum Post: End Poverty By Increasing Poverty... Huh?

Posted 5 years ago on Aug. 1, 2013, 8:23 a.m. EST by Stuffsnotfree (-18)
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Poverty and inequality are big issues. So, why do things that make them worse? That means we don't shoot down ideas just because something might or might not be the biggest influence, but accept them as contributors to the problem that are worthy of changing.

Take immigration. The United States is a modern country. Average educational attainment is a little over 1 year post-high school (very unlike 100 years ago).

If you lack an education, are perhaps even illiterate, don't speak English, or are massively out of synch with our values or way of life (think a Somali out of a refugee camp as a tri-fecta of what we don't need), you will be poor. You will.

There's no evidence grunt labor is in shortage. They "do jobs others won't do" is silly. Just look at unemployment rates. They rise as skills and education fall. They do. Look it up. The shortage is in EDUCATED people (geniunely educated doesn't me a faux-degree in a soft-major), not uneducated people. Pretty clear and obvious stuff.

As we add poverty immigration, we add poverty to the country. That adds to inequality as well. We should plug this obvious hole in the boat if we don't like rising water.

So, "occupy" poverty, "occupy" poverty immigration. Control our border, end poverty immigration. Stop increasing poverty and then complaining about increasing poverty.



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[-] 3 points by trashyharry (3084) from Waterville, NY 5 years ago

People in Mexico and Central America used to be able to support themselves by growing corn.They can't do that anymore because of trade agreements such as NAFTA which allow gigantic American corporations such as Monsanto and ADM to flood cheap,GM corn into the markets of those regions.Not very many people really want to come to the US because the US sucks Royal Canadian Moosecock for years now.They come here because they and their families will die of want if someone does not obtain employment somehow,somewhere.The US is acting as a safety valve for countries that are owned lock,stock and barrel by a few wealthy families.Why should we allow all of this?To promote the profits of American Corporations-the same Corporations that refuse to pay workers enough to live on,that refuse to pay even a single penny in taxes,and that are currently destroying the environment so bad that EVERY year is either El Nino or El Nina,but NEVER normal?Who is going to be able to continue producing agricultural harvests in such conditions?If you don't like Mexicans,get rid of trade agreements that force them to come here.

[-] 1 points by trashyharry (3084) from Waterville, NY 5 years ago

TYVM,GF-I'm always happy to "see you around"-TH

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

You don't have a shortage of educated people. That is a lie.

[-] 2 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 5 years ago

We seem to have a shortage of intelligent people and an abundance of educated people who think they are intelligent when in fact they are merely programmed. The opponents should welcome immigrants who have been educated in our system, as they will be properly programmed. New immigrants who have been educated in Japan, China, India -- they will be less inclined to accept the b.s; probably a reason to disallow them.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

You don't have a shortage. That is a lie perpetuated to outsource more jobs which begins with H-1B visas.


Now, how you, personally, define intelligence doesn't really do diddly squat here. If the undocumented workers that are not wanted in the country don't have enough acceptable education then you have to nail the corporations hard enough so that they don't hire them. Criminal charges or penalties so high that they lose their businesses.