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Forum Post: End farm animal Antibiotics, fight for organic food. Supermoms against superbugs

Posted 1 year ago on April 5, 2013, 6:37 p.m. EST by inclusionman (7064)
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Big Agri is pumping farm animals with antibiotics to fatten them up, and as a result we are becoming immune to existing viruses, who in turn are evolving into superbugs that NO anti biotic can cure.

People are dying as a result.

Some current info:

http://onpoint.wbur.org/2013/04/04/rep-louise-slaughter-on-antibiotics-meat-and-superbugs

These protesters are one of us. We should support them

http://www.pewhealth.org/other-resource/supermoms-against-superbugs-2013-advocacy-day-85899463904

We can support these efforts as well

http://www.care2.com/causes/will-fifth-attempt-to-ban-antibiotics-on-farms-succeed.html

Please contribute any and all info/action items related to this dangerous situation.

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[-] 3 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 1 year ago

Nice post.

[-] 4 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

big agri corp 1% fucks!!!

[-] 2 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 1 year ago

absolutely

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

They will be the death of us, if not through High fructose corn syrup then through gmo frankenfood, and seed monopolization.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Worldwide March VS Monsanto

http://interoccupy.net/blog/march-against-monsanto-may-25-2-pm-est-everywhere/

Join with your Occupy siblings and march against poisonous foodopoly.

Spread the word, organize a march, take a stand.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4449) 1 year ago

Excellent

[-] 3 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Even baby formula isn't safe!

http://www.nationofchange.org/pressure-mounts-remove-genetically-engineered-ingredients-infant-formula-1366816345

We encourage breast feeding as long as possible.

FYI (& a bump)

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4449) 1 year ago

Also, wondering how much pesticide, is in the infant formula.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

oh y'know they'll never say. Something smells though. natural breast feeding. It's the best way.

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[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Right.?

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

And some new info on Mad cow.

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2013/03/17/Mad-cow-disease-adaptation-key-found/UPI-34591363498413/

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/04/03/national/panel-agrees-raising-cattle-age-limit-for-domestic-bse-inspections/

Scary situation. Good reasons to be vegetarians (reduces our caron footprint too).

Haven't seen you here for awhile. Everything ok?

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4449) 1 year ago

Hi inclusionman,

Yes, many good reasons to be vegetarian. Prions adapt---Ouch!

Everything is ok, and glad to be back.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Welcome back. We had a phony nevada1 (I think) for awhile.

I love steak, but the health, environmental, monetary, costs are just too high.

I've cut down a lot, & will have to do more.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (4449) 1 year ago

Thank you for nice words. Yes, there were some fake Nevada posts.

We went vegetarian in 1995, and vegan in 2002. Then organic (mostly) in 2010

The vegan transition was the most difficult.

Almost time to plant garden.

Every little effort helps.

[-] 3 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I'm beginning a green roof to grow veggies so... We'll see.

[-] 5 points by Nevada1 (4449) 1 year ago

Chemicals we cannot live with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange

[-] 3 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago
[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4449) 1 year ago

One 'Crime Against All Living Things' after another.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

They have no souls.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

That was an especially nasty one.

[-] 2 points by freewriterguy2 (3) 1 year ago

I like this point and the holy spirit has been telling me about this for some time now especially about the poisons they put in the foods there isn't many organic or natural foods left. We have been eating organic foods only for a year now and it's expensive so this year we are quadrupling our gardening, and even got chickens cause $5 for a dozen organic eggs was more money than I wanted to spend.

Did you know that organic yellow corn may actualy be extinct? corporations in collaboration with government have genetically modified it so much I haven't been able to find any, so we have been eating organic blue corn chips, (target has the best value for $3) a good size bag.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Monsanto & their political puppets must see our opposition in massive marchs

https://secure.nationofchange.org/monsanto-march

Please join us.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

We are at a crossroads. A desperate situation that requires enough people be made aware of these foodopolistic poisoning of our food.

We must make every effort to inform more & more people, Informing people will create outrage and a groundswell of outrage is the only power we have that can defeat the corp oligarchal monied interests.

People over profits. We mean it. We need it. We demand it.

[-] 2 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

If we knew constitutional intent we could use ART5 to assure the FDA/USDA has long term public health in mind rather than corporate profits.

If we un abridged free speech then we could know constitutional intent and make democracy uphold the principles of the republic.

If & if & if

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

And end GMO food!

http://www.nationofchange.org/gmo-scientist-seralini-backs-us-gmo-awareness-and-labeling-advocates-1365261412

Do you think ALEC will put that into your Art5 effort?

[-] 2 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Are you trying to foul cognition? There is no other reason to state something so erroneous.

If it is not, then ask alec.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

So then you DON'T think ALEC would support ending GMO food.?

[-] 4 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

No, alec supports corporate profits over human interest.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Oh ok.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Stand w/ supermoms in favor of safe food.

http://info.pewtrusts.org/site/MessageViewer?em_id=17313.0

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Signed. Really bad corporate practice, overuse of antibiotics to increase profits. Such actions are good, but perhaps not effective unless mass media educational programming has touched the issue making people informed.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Right. Thx

[-] 3 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Someone in their state needs to file an emergency injunction in federal court.

All non profits for the environment need to pool funds for a good legal team.

ows needs to monitor the law suit and keep the public informed so 5k people sit out side the courthouse at each hearing.

Motions for media coverage need to be filed.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I'm not against those actions.

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Sincere ows'ers need to make an online petition asking ows to help define, promote and coordinate the effort.

Von Hilliard and the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund should be doing it, but it's only defense for protesters. Curiously, they will not discuss ART5 or helping soldiers to understand how to legally and peacefully defend the constitution from a domestic enemy with this amazing concept I found here on ows.

http://algoxy.com/ows/soldiersinquiry.html

[-] -1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Start it. i can sign it. and promote it.

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

I'm not an ows'er spouting socialistic idealisms, so it will not go further than your valued signature.

If it could be understood here, despite the cognitive infiltrators; I know there are some very committed people with ows that might do it, but cannot. The infiltrators use a false group to foul the understanding so everyone/thing is in question except for that which appears sanctified from above within ows.

Free speech IS abridged.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

You're not socialist? What are you.?

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Indigenous Americans had something which could be called "spiritual capitalism".

The potlatch was real and heartfelt "giving competition" between capitalists in a tribal environment, among other things. A man best showed his power in society by how much he could give.

http://www.antiessays.com/free-essays/43531.html

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Giving is good. I suppose we don't have to call it socialism. Just a label.

Perhaps the giving competition could be directed to those in need.?

[-] 3 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

The gifts were all for those in need first. Potlatch occurred through the spring, summer and fall in the northwest. It was so important to the indigenous society it was forbidden and punished by death in some areas.

It was also a trade event, so everyone went. The big show was when the poorest were the targets for the richest who competed to give them more. They made a big show of it, real dramatic. Orations and such describing the spiritual awareness of the giver. The spirit of giving.

Native gambling was mostly not gambling. It was a trade event where the poor would create games of skill and chance for the wealthy to play, and lose over and over again, graciously happy to do so.

The wealthy Indians found a way to protect the self esteem of the poor. The poor had to do something to draw the wealthy into throwing their wealth away.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I support free speech and am against any abridging thereof. (2nd time, I answered)

What tactics are you using. What is the status of your efforts.? How many states are moving forward? How can I help? (3rd time I've asked)

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I didn't see that question. But I suppose I would say I support free speech and am against any abridging thereof.

What tactics are you using. What is the status of your efforts.? How many states are moving forward? How can I help?

[-] -1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Preparatory amendment ending the abridging of free speech will have a dramatic effect on all US politics. In fact, they will be so altered that paradigms commonly spoken of today would be known as grossly erroneous with uniformity.

Reading here about ART5 over the last year or so has been an education relating to what Americans don't know and how what they don't know matters. For example, one simple very constitutional perspective is that the purpose of free speech is that information needed for survival be shared and understood. We'll that leaves us out because of the dumbing down that started in 1912 as documented by the Reese commission. Here is the transcript of an '80's interview.

www.realityzone.com/hiddenagenda2.html

Accordingly, the end of the abridging of free speech MUST err in favor of much more rather than much less, AND, the web makes interactivity possible therefore constitutionally needed.

How do feel about that aspect of ending the abridgement?

BTW, I see discussion on a regular basis from many states on this related to most issues. Currently with free speech abridged to expect any state to move forward is un realistic. Simply understanding constitutional intent with free speech is a good place to start and leave the expectations alone. It is at least pure.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Oh I know, you've said repeatedly only your way is the right way.

Mostly though I find that you spend all your time criticizing any activism, rather than pushing your own proposal.

And you NEVER, NEVER, give a clear status of progress you've made.

In any event many petitions succeed at accomplishing small victories, which can be built upon, I can list many, Petitioning is a "gateway activism" and is a critical part of growing the movement, and there is always the possibility that a super activist can be inspired.

It is all around positive, and effective in multiple ways.

And it is only one of many tactics we use.

What tactics are you using. What is the status of your efforts.? How many states are moving forward? How can I help?

[-] 0 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Can't distort what I'm saying by pretending I've said something I haven't.

ART5 is alive in American hearts with their appreciation of their rights and freedom whether they know it or not.

I've asked you to comment on ending the abridging of free speech and you have not. WHY?

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

So the petitioning is "silly", "sad", and makes the 1% happy?

I disagree.

[-] 0 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

That would be a distortion, a generalization. Specifically, petitioning which does not invoke duty is likely to be a "feel good" activity. Meaning it is ineffective which makes the 1% happy.

ART5 is our strategy for real, widespread, permanent change. Preparatory amendment makes it safe and protect us from 1% conspiracies like alec etc.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Well I believe petitioning serves an important, valuable, effective tool to agitate for the goals that benefit the 99%.

I guess we disagree.

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

A generalizåtion of "petitioning" is inadequate to term effective, it does show intent.

Direct engagement of legal process can really get the job done.

Petititons using legal process stand a good chance of making change. The other kind, well maybe.

What's sad is that every time somebody signs an ineffective petition, not engaging legal process, the 1% holler, "yippee".

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

So signing petitions is "silly"?

[-] 0 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Petitions that invoke no legal process, when one exists and needs to be mentioned, are involving the public with frivolous political gestures.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

What "seems silly"?:

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Asking citizens in mass to sign a petition that invokes no legal obligation of congress seems silly.

If nothing else the petition could mention the fact that in 1911 the requisite states had applied for an ART5 convention and Americans have been deprived of their right since then, and based on that congress should call a convention. At the end of the petitition, the content of the movetoamend petition can be listed.

At the very least congress knows how many people know they've violated the law, the constitution and their oath.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Sounds great.

[-] -1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Yea! Those are basically the same people agreeing that freedom of speech had its greatest meaning when it empowered an understanding that could create; forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance, respect, trust friendship and love protecting the peoples lives, their liberty and their pursuit of happiness.

Which is why, after looking at the ART5 potentials coming from various Americans working to preserve and enforce the constitution, messing with any thing less seems silly. That preparatory amendment concept rocks.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I know, you've said and I support your efforts. While you make that happen I will continue working on these issues with the supermoms in the traditional way if it's all the same to you.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Something smells in meat section

http://www.care2.com/causes/theres-something-superbuggy-about-most-u-s-meat.html

Smells like foodopoly. End antibiotics in farm animals!

[-] 2 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

Ending the abridging of free speech can create accountability of the USDA and FDA. Once every American knows what runaway science is doing to our food source.

It's a good reason for direct democracy type opinion gathering which ends up being a real authority with enough communication.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Yeah man! Have at it, you are our resident "ending abridging of free speech" resource.

How is that workin out for ya'? Got any update on progress.?

[-] 0 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

More people understand each day the purpose of free speech is to share and understand knowledge needed for survival, for freedom, for peace.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Excellent! We're on our way now.

Well done.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago
[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

God damn corrupt, bought off judges.

More poisons to fight.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

It all has roots deep in the kind thing that caused the explosion in Texas.

A HATE for doing the correct thing.

And a LOVE of the illusion of free markets.

http://www.politicususa.com/texas-fertilizer-plants-blows-sky-high-texas-anti-epa-citizens-paid-lives.html

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Agreed. the infallible market.

So much must change.

[-] 0 points by Stormcrow2 (-184) 1 year ago

I wouldn't say that the "antibiotic animals" are the only problem. Every time someone gets a cold or cough, the first thing they do is go to the emergency room to get antibiotics to supress their cold.

Now to add to your post - Some companies do put lables on their products that state they do not use antibiotics on their animals.

There is also a orginization out there - can't remember the name at this time - that puts lables on products that are supposed to be pure of chemicals.

Dr Oz did a show on this several weeks ago - I believe you can find the info on his web site - really good info about free range chickens - just how fake that term is - and other good stuff.

[-] 3 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

So you're against antibiotics in animals or not?

[-] 2 points by Stormcrow2 (-184) 1 year ago

Most definitely against - I only buy milk that has that lable on it - no antibiotics.

I never use antibiotics when I get sick -

No wonder we have epedimics in this country - everybodys immune system has been compromised because of using antibiotics.

[-] 3 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Self destructive, even the meds that are thrown out can find themselves in our fish.

[-] 2 points by Stormcrow2 (-184) 1 year ago

You know there are a lot of peopel in this country who take a pill for whatever ailes them. I could never understand that.

Today they even have "tylnol" for children. Why in the hell should a child need Tylnol? Are our children mimicing their adult countepart and as a result when they grow up will be doing the same?

Something needs to change - the television is bombarded with commercials about everything we need to make us feel good.

It needs to stop - todays society has been brainwashed into being a "buying society" and they don't even realize it.

[-] 3 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

True, more people are learning. Hopefully it will be enough.