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Forum Post: Employment/Justice/Housing/Healthcare!!! Our Problems are exhasperated by historic American Racism

Posted 6 years ago on May 25, 2014, 11:27 a.m. EST by 99nproud (2697)
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Eliminating the economic handicap of endemic American racism would remove millions of citizens from govt dependent, to tax paying consumer. WITH DIGNITY!

Education is a founding element of the oppression by the corp oligarchs.


The Justice system has become a tool of those same corp forces to hold down non white populations.








Who is responsible? WE are responsible. We MUST be engaged, informed, aware, and active in finding and removing racist people in power!




We need Anti racist organizing!!


Identifying, and voting out the racists will immediately improve the prospects of passing policies that benefit ALL!

The party differences on this fundamental issue is broad and deep. If it is the only measure you use to vote, you would be doing better than most, and we would get a better chance at progress.

Perhaps we will then finally get the reparations we all know are owed!


Succeeding on this would be a huge step in correcting the economic inequity we/ve been fighting for decades.



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[-] 6 points by nazihunter (215) 6 years ago

Raising the minimum wage would do a great deal to help beat racism.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago

that page is too long and gummed up my computer

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago

humans matter

the US should not be killing non-citizens

[-] 3 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

I agree

The US (ALL countries!) should not be killing non citizens (or ANYONE!)

No killing!!!

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4181) 6 years ago

agree Matt - humans matter ... we can't divide this fight. Martin Luther King Jr always advocated on behalf of justice for all people. To say that economic injustice is a racial issue only - quite frankly feels racist to me. But I guess I don't count because I may not have the right skin color to be able to voice this and somehow it is only quantified if it goes back far enough into history? My ancestors didn't participate in slavery, and I'm not a racist...yet somehow lately I'm feeling that a lack of diversity is being used to minimize the fact that most people (including white people) are experiencing the same difficulties and that somehow I am part of diverse people's problems and responsible for the difficulties caused by a system that they and also I feel trapped in. Many white people fought and died for the Civil Rights movement (and I can guarantee you if I'd been in that generation so would I) Consequently I recently I had my identity stolen and it was traced back to a poor black community that has a lot of gang crime. I haven't stopped advocating for peace and justice for ALL people and yet I'm beginning to feel that it's not seemingly the same way for a lot minorities - I don't like this rhetoric I keep hearing lately. I too am broke (unemployed at the moment) and came from a working class family. I have struggled and worked and been part of the 99 percent and joined Occupy as soon as it began. I doubt the people using my identity stopped to wonder if my child could have cancer, or my husband just died, or if I had just lost my job? (which thankfully only that last one is true) All they did know was that I was white, and had good credit (and probably blamed my kind for their problems) and they used it to open credit lines everywhere they could... I spent months fighting corporations to clear my name and the stress of dealing with it lead me to lose my job. When I look at the Middle East and how long people have been fighting one another for the grudges of their ancestors,I can't help but wonder when I see posts like this - if this is the direction we want to head? Blame should be directed at the system, not at each other we need to join to fix it. I looked at the people on FB responsible and I could see that their lives had difficulty, I felt empathy and compassion. But behaving in such a way? I can't justify being taken advantage of in that way. To steal from me, and to make the assumption I had wealth (was especially funny when I saw the income guess listed on the credit application- so ridiculously high) and that stealing from me was ok because they needed it - is behavior not far off from Wall Streets. I don't think all people living in that community are bad, nor do I blame everyone there, but it's rampant in that area...and an awful lot of people there are participating in making it a pretty shitty place for everyone else there while simultaneously causing the rest of the country to nod their heads in disgust. To those gang thugs and criminals that create this perception in a lot of minority areas... you are keeping and dragging "your people" down (and also forcing them to dodge your stray fucking bullets). PS (they are my people too - as Matt said humans matter) So knock that shit off ok? And let's not make this about race anymore.

[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

Challenging/ending racist obstacles by oligarchs against the people WILL improve the lives of ALL of us.



[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

I blame the system for the historic American racism.

If we provide good education for ALL we would be correcting the racism that hurts all of us and our shared economy.

If we elect people of integrity we elect non racists and therefore improve life for all.

Because racism hurts us ALL. Right?

[-] 2 points by elf3 (4181) 6 years ago

I agree totally on education equality - I believe it should be the same amount for every child (accommodating extra for special needs). And I advocate for a free university system. The fact that rich communities have access to better education is total crap. A Federal Education Tax should be used and delved out for schools. I do feel part of the education problem is people with kids aren't paying taxes anymore to cover it (because of the earned income and child tax credit) all you have left are single childless people and elderly pulling out their pockets to cover it - it's not enough. Everyone needs to commit a percentage of their income to education - period. Also public education sucks period the illusion that it's that much better in rich communities is just that - most rich people send their kids to private school (that's why they are getting so far ahead of the publicly educated) the teachers still sit up front reading a newspaper in most public schools (you know the ones with full tenure that stopped giving a shit ten years ago) ... also lots of poor so called "white" towns too that can't fund their schools. People are out of work everywhere and factories are still shutting down as we speak. It's not to say that there is no equality or racial injustice going on ( I know there is) I just think if we can come together and attack the mechanisms destroying upward mobility for people who don't start off with wealth (or in stable homes with normal parents - cause that happens universally - lots of dysfunctional families out there) ....we can really get somewhere - WS wants us divided why do you think reparations is even being discussed in Congress they have never cared before now and nothing gets in front of them without WS approval... they see us joining together and they are throwing up the dividers

also corporations need to pay their share link to film: We're Not Broke (tells the story of U.S. corporations dodging billions of dollars in income tax, and how seven fed-up Americans take their frustration to the streets…and vow to make the corporations pay their fair share)


[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

And this is a decent explanation of more outrageous educational realities.


Education is fundamental to individual & societal success.

Inferior education has always been an effective tool at controlling large segments of the 99%.


[-] 2 points by elf3 (4181) 6 years ago

Also what good is an education when there aren't enough jobs being created? WS will have us all in the service sector the one caveat to this is unionization ...unionizing service sector will reset the balance for the union factory jobs that have been outsourced.

[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

So you think our revenue shortfall should be corrected by taking from the people who get the earned income tax credit (low income)?

Don't you think the superrich who are sitting on trillions of dollars (they got from us) would be the best place to get additional revenue.? (You do know why Willie Sutton robbed banks right?)

I think we should come together to tax the wealthy and cut taxes for the working class.

Increase big corp tax, cut small business tax.

Then of course invest in education for ALL. Because that is the investment that WILL return great profit for our society.

[-] 2 points by elf3 (4181) 6 years ago

I don't know ... somehow I think people who make quite a lot of money can get that credit (I think it's not just based on income - it's based on the number of children per household) and it goes in brackets based on that (and also how like Fannie and Sallie Mae being available to rich people's kids because on paper those rich people are broke since they hide all their profits (and assets in trusts) nothing makes me angrier than seeing a rich executive's kid's Sallie Mae loan payment on a desk or delivering it to them from the mail room.

...whatever we do there is just no way up for people - if we weren't stuffing Wall Streets and rich Landlords pockets with every cent we make (we'd all have a little extra to give) Look at the cost of everything !! It's getting ridiculous...and still main street is getting downsized, jobs still going overseas to slave labor, and housing grows more expensive. And don't even get me started on the Military Industrial Complex how much war do we fund so Halliburton can profit?

[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

The point is most of us (99%) have already given, Already sacrificed and struggled.

We've been victimized, conned, and sold out, while the wealthy got bailed out and continued to soak up 95% of ALL the wealth created in the last 5 years!!!!

So again, WE must come together to get OUR money back from the criminal oligarchs who bought our govt, rigged the system against US, and crashed the wortd economy.

Raise THEIR muthaf@#$in taxes & cut ours.!!!!


[-] 2 points by elf3 (4181) 6 years ago

right - as a start it would be nice - a secretary shouldn't pay a higher percentage of tax than a CEO...(who delivers Sallie Mae statements from the mailroom for his kid's college...the one she never could afford and made "too much money" to receive since she doesn't have a financial planner to hide her lousy income) thus the lack of available upward mobility - being rich isn't enough for them I guess ... they have to be greedy and take it all. PS our taxes pay for those Sallie Mae loans btw you know to help with upward mobility - what a crime.

[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

I get it. You don't like Sallie Mae loans/borrowers.

I will look into that a bit. You have any links on this?

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4181) 6 years ago

No I've witnessed it first hand and I do like the loans ...I have one...but it was a process designed to make it as difficult possible for lower income individuals like me and almost wasn't worth the hell of the ordeal...banks make it impossible trying to extend it to when investors can bid making it as tough as possible for people like us...I just happen to be persistent...and determined to beat WS at their games... I don't think millionaires who hide their incomes should be able to dip in for themselves and their children...also you can look up articles on the fact that fannie mae is now auctioning off bulk home packages to developers and landlords ...cheaper than individuals can get them...so they can rent them ...this is a travesty: taking taxes we pay to help corporations and millionaires buy up all the cheap housing so we are forced to rent ...individuals can't compete and it means less homepath homes available for lower income individuals or young couples and families and still they take our tax money under the guise they are helping us

Traditionally homeownership was the American Dream...we are letting an awful lot of people aka landlords and rich dicks steal that away from us...doesn't seem fair or right or very American to me...now we get to "rent forever" and feel lucky when the rent isn't raised too high each year! Oh yeah in the new micro living pads they're designing for us and our families!!! I believe this is the tip of this trend...its disgusting and we must take measures to limit landlords as well as get corporations and realty trusts out of housing.


[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

Yeah man!!


[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago

our taxes ?

who is making money ?

[-] 3 points by elf3 (4181) 6 years ago

right we're not really but still they take out that giant chunk!!! Matt I think you're living in the wrong area for your science education - you've got to go to the city or something. I don't know where you are but where I live...I'd be set with your background. My entire income could be divided in a pie chart that goes something like this: Corporate America aka:



Electric Corporation

Gas Corporation


Insurance for car

Insurance for health

(all ins required by law btw)

cellular (cheapo plan and phone)

food (aka food industrial complex/ toiletry industrial complex) damn tp

taxes for roof

taxes for income

excise tax and registration fees

Sunoco, BP etc Fuel to commute to work (and tax on fuel)

car repairs for my shit box junker

co-pays and prescriptions (damn anxiety meds)

Mothers Day, Fathers Day Flag Day, Christmas, Wedding/ Industrial (buy a gift) Complex

my socks and clothes have holes and my hair is really long (because yep that pretty much took it all) and I can't afford children which is why I am squashing my biological clock into smithereens..

My advice - kill the landlords, fall in love, buy a home, make your community a nice place to live, grow your own food and garden a lot - and live as simply and as kindly as possible. Buy only what you truly need to get buy and protest often and loudly and never become complacent - we've only got this one life - live it and never be afraid to chase your dreams...and never let America become a place that kills and crushes dreams

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago

i'm just tired of "chasing" my dreams

i quit the military as a conscious objector to the ingoing US bombing campaign o the world

most industry in san digeo suckles on government military funding

[-] 0 points by HCabret2014 (-11) 6 years ago

Or education could be merit based and not wealth based. I still don't everyone should get automatic acceptance into university just for living and breathing. Education is not like a sun tan, you just cant lay there motionless and get an education.

[-] 3 points by elf3 (4181) 6 years ago

yeah look at our Curios George - he snorted his way through (or ha ha I love that sun-tanned his way) even failed - and still got the degree (If you have the money they will give you the honey) universities are on the take - black, white, gov funded, rich offspring (it's not even about being smart anymore) it's about who can pay.

[-] 0 points by HCabret2014 (-11) 6 years ago

My skin's purple, but that's cause I'm holding my breath.

[-] 3 points by elf3 (4181) 6 years ago

I thought the undead didn't breathe - Matt you are human and not a bot after all!

[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago
[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 years ago

a little but still top heavy

[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

Education & American racism

This should be digestible.



[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

Who is a racist?

[-] 0 points by pigeonlady (284) from Brooklyn, NY 6 years ago

Honesty and integrity, dude. Those qualities are called for in our representation. By its nature integrity excludes racism and has far more impact on our society. Where do we find the politicians we so desperately need? Politics is an extension of power. Those craving power resort to running for office or promoting those promoting their interests. Racism itself if solved would not do enough.

[-] 3 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

But you do support fighting and "solving" racism right?

[-] 2 points by pigeonlady (284) from Brooklyn, NY 6 years ago

As I said, integrity excludes racism. Therefore fighting it would not be necessary if representation possessed that quality. In the present arguing the application of racism is valid. What can I say, I'm a lover, not a fighter.

[-] 3 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago
[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

Racism in education continues to transform millions of otherwise hard working, tax paying, consumer citizens, into individuals unprepared for out economic system (broken as IT is, as well!) and relegates those millions to a life of desperation & crime.



"If you think education is too expensive, try ignorance"

Fight for good education for all, and we will resolve the societal self destruction that is our historical racist education policies.

[-] 1 points by HCabret2014 (-11) 6 years ago

Build more libraries. They don't cost as much.

[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

I agree on building more libraries (infocenters?) & also free internet access to educational accredit classes/info.

But not in place of free public college.

[-] 0 points by HCabret2014 (-11) 6 years ago

No, I agree, but libraries and the internet also reach a far larger amount of people.

[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 6 years ago

Public college free on the internet/library!