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Forum Post: Eminent Domain and "THE PEOPLE"

Posted 2 years ago on Dec. 9, 2011, 11:39 a.m. EST by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN
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Why can't "WE THE PEOPLE" use eminent domain to end pollution? It is our government our state! The Government of "THE PEOPLE" by "THE PEOPLE" for "THE PEOPLE"!!! Correct??? Then eminent domain is ours to use as we see fit!

To use it to force the Implementation and use of green technology? Solar power, Wind Power, Hydrogen Power, Geo-Thermal. YES!!!

To end such things as Nuclear Power and the waste it produces. Nuclear waste is not used for anything, can not be recycled unless for a dirty bomb, and will always be a terrorist's wet dream as a target. This waste is just piling-up.

Use eminent domain to stop burning coal which beside releasing carbon pollution also releases mercury pollution, polluting our air land and water, poisoning our food chain.

To stop such practices as fracking, which is polluting/poisoning our ground water.

To deny the Canadian/Texas pipeline, which would further endanger our environment.

To end many forms of pollution and to force the growth of true green technologies and practices. TRUE GREEN not such things as bio-fuel, because bio-fuel is not truly green - IT POLLUTES - it does not matter that you can grow crops to sustain it. Crops should be used to feed the world not to continue polluting it.

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[-] 2 points by PatriotSon01 (157) 2 years ago

I will post this thread to my Facebook page and maybe we can get more input... Great idea! If the corporations, through Emminent Domain, can take our own lands from us, why can't we use their own laws against them? I like it! And ... it's 'legal' !!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

"OUR" Laws! But yes thanks, this kind of stuff needs circulation. Thank you very much for taking part!!!!!

[-] 2 points by PatriotSon01 (157) 2 years ago

Recent corporate activity with various senators says different. 'Our law' is just a false moniker. Until the people wake up and get active in their Democracy, its not ours at all... Too long have people been indifferent sheep, ignoring their public servants (politicians) and not watching the helm. Our Freedoms and our laws are being amended to benefit those willing to take. If we don't watch out... we deserve to be bludgeoned by the takers. Educate yourself! It is all of our duties as citizens of a Democracy!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Exactly so. Great comment, insight and perspective. We are in a unique position in this age to advocate, communicate, band together and make change for the better for "ALL" of us.

The winds of change are blowing. Ride the wind!

[-] 2 points by aeturnus (231) from Robbinsville, NC 2 years ago

Most forms of eminent domain are currently used against the public and often for the interests of developers.

What you're saying might be true. I think eminent domain can also be used to provide workers the power to take over a bankrupt company, so long as they can create something for the public good, e.g. create a much better economic condition, creating jobs, etc...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thanks for your comment/interest.

[-] 2 points by randart (498) 2 years ago

Agreed. If a corporation that is located in a city, that relies on their presence, decides to move off shore or outsource jobs then it should be the right of the citizens of that city to reclaim the factory, put the already trained workers back to work, and convert it to an employee owned business.

It would help the community and benefit the free market competition. Right now it would also be a great marketing tool to say that some product is a part of fixing the country's employment dilemma.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Tweet it, Facebook it. I have. Lets get this some MAJOR circulation!!!!!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Yes!!!!!!! An absolutely beautiful Concept. Make them employee owned like Anderson Window. Wouldn't have to be a city it could be the state or nation just the same!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Bump?

Bump!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Bump if you like. Copy and circulate if you love.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thoughts?

[-] 1 points by Coriolanus (272) 2 years ago

How would you propose doing this?

"Crops should be used to feed the world not to continue polluting it."

Don't get me started on ethanol in gasoline, a bone that was thrown to Archer Daniels Midland (fro a price). Even Al Gore agrees that it is ridiculous, but the politicians getting money from ADM won't back down.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

These are just some ways eminent domain could/should be used, when "THE PEOPLE" retake government.

[-] 1 points by Coriolanus (272) 2 years ago

I meant what would be the mechanism for doing this? I assume that we will still have a Senate, House of Representatives, President, etc. If you envision a totally different system (i.e. overthrow of the current constitutionally derived system) how would that work?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It could be as simple as instituting an appeals process ( PUBLIC ) and in the process allow "THE PEOPLE" to weigh in on the issue, in support or against support of the appeal. State & Federal.

[-] 1 points by Coriolanus (272) 2 years ago

Interesting. Would "The People" do that in the form of referendum votes, or through representatives as we do now? We have the technology to have referendums for pretty much anything, but I imagine it could get tedious and after a while maybe only a handful of people would participate (not a big change from the present, come to think of it).

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Voting should be done by majority ( PUBLIC Majority ) as should our election voting be done. The voting would be for an up or down motion as to weather or not an issue should be considered. If an issue gets voted into consideration, then Public voting should be used to determine the merit of the appeal ( support or not ).

[-] 1 points by Coriolanus (272) 2 years ago

Would you favor voting by internet, or in person at a voting booth? I think voting would be a daily (or almost daily) thing, and voting in person would be cumbersome. But then people would get worried about someone rigging any kind of electronic voting (Diebold and all that). I would be interested in the mechanics of it.

When you say majority, do you mean a numerical majority or a plurality? For example, if there are 1000 eligible voters, 500 actually vote, and a measure passes by 260-240, would it pass? Obviously a majority of voters did not vote in favor.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Vote by internet, set it up for security along the same lines as banking transactions are done today. Perhaps initial registration could be done in-person, just like when you open a savings or checking account. People could log-on at the library if they had no other access and wanted to participate.

Voting would be numerical as to how many participated in the vote. Not be restricted to pass or fail by the number of available voters. So yes a 260 to 240 vote would be decisive.

[-] 2 points by Coriolanus (272) 2 years ago

OK, I understand. That is probably doable; some people will whine about security, but if you wait for perfection you will wait a long time.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Correct. Like any process it should be improved as time goes by. Continuous process improvement.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28122) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

To reclaim foreclosed homes. Eminent Domain and "THE PEOPLE".