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Forum Post: Eliminate borders, money and take religion out of societal decisions. Problems Solved...

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 5, 2011, 11:05 p.m. EST by djjohnthomas (5) from Zephyrhills, FL
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Is it really that hard for people to go from where we are as a society now and figure out the REAL problem? There is no getting around the inescapable truth. Money, the whole concept of it, is the root cause of almost EVERY problem we as a society face. The sheer fact that people believe that we as a society would not even be able to survive without an almost 3000 year old system is quite frankly an insult to our entire species, and only shows the deep seeded greed that has been practically breed into our society. Money has throughout its history been responsible only for war, slavery, greed, the raping of our planet and creating wealth for those that are the most psychopathic of our society. I have no doubt that most of everything that has been accomplished would have still been discovered and invented. The true genius of our history did not spend their lives devoted to research for money; they did it for the betterment of humanity. Borders are another ancient system that is probably older than money itself and really entails a lot of narcissism. Who is anyone to claim anything on this planet over anyone else based on where they happen to be born? Because you have been there longer? Or Paid for it? Or killed for it? That is ludicrous when we are all evolved not just from this planet, but from the very origins of the universe. The atoms in your body and everything we see, smell, touch and taste was born out of the explosions of stars. Is someone actually going to step up and claim right to that? Everyone has the same right not only to this planet but the universe itself and anything created from it. Everything we have accomplished as humans has been due to combining the knowledge of great minds throughout history and the production of ANYTHING requires resources that belong to this planet and therefore belong to each one of us equally. We are able to do all the things we can do now because of our ability to build on knowledge. Imagine the combined knowledge of what the entire world working as one could accomplish. It’s actually mind boggling to think of the wonderments we could discover working as one. It scares the hell out of me with as much as we know about the history of our own planet that we are not working together to find ways of traveling the universe and do not have contingencies for inner planetary, atmospheric and/or extraterrestrial catastrophes (no not UFO’s – Asteroids and Comets). The fact that we know as an uncertainty (and yes “we” do know) something could happen to either us or future generations and we are not planning NOW for those things could eventually lead to our own extinction. Instead our focus is on how much we can accumulate even if it is at the price of the only planet we currently can inhabit in mass numbers. Wouldn’t this seem like a worthwhile goal for us to achieve (and one I might add I believe to be absolutely achievable)? Again I go back to what we could achieve working as one. What we MUST achieve for our very survival, if not ours a future generations. I know there was one more thing I said to get rid of…. For the purposes of this discussion, I’m not getting into religious aspects, but I will say that no religion should ever be allowed to influence society as a whole.. In the first place there are way too many conflicting religions and somebody has to be wrong. And in the second place it is hard to say which has killed more people in our history… Religion or Money? Plus too many people use religion as a shield to do bad things and still be ok because the believe… I have the upmost respect for peoples personal beliefs and would never suggest repressing those beliefs in any way.. As a matter of fact in the society I envision, you would have more time to devote to a variety of life enriching activities including arts, education, research, teaching, family, personal development and absolutely religion if you so choose among other things. Society CAN and will at some point learn to work together; I fear that this may not be the time…… As much as I had hoped it might when people started saying they wanted equality. There is no other path to true equality other than the elimination of the things that prevent it.

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[-] 1 points by djjohnthomas (5) from Zephyrhills, FL 12 years ago

Then maybe for them ("that isolated tribe") it is religion or borders that cause their wars... there were three things if you had gone past the first three sentences. And yes it was a ramble of frustration that there are so many people whom refuse to even try and grasp the concept when to me it is completely logical. I understand that there are plenty of people that believe that society is incapable of survival without the ingenious system we operate under now, but that does not make it right, no matter how you try and justify it. And in the future I would request that you come up with a better argument than comparing our civilization to an isolated tribe on an island.

[-] 0 points by chestRockwell (-4) 12 years ago

What a ramble, I stopped after about three sentences. The author seems to think that without "money." Slavery and war didn't exist, even that isolated tribe on one of those islands near India uses war, and they have never even heard of the concept of money. Fool