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Forum Post: Ed Asner explains it all -- a short video that shows the 1%'s scam

Posted 11 years ago on Dec. 9, 2012, 10:19 p.m. EST by therising (6643)
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[-] 2 points by Coyote88 (-24) 11 years ago

Stupid.

[-] 0 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Man, you must have really sucked in school. Lots of "incompletes"? O.K. I'll bite. Why is it stupid Mr. Coyote. Which item in it is wrong?

[-] 2 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 11 years ago

Good post !! Sure tells it like it is. Thanx

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

This video really makes it clear what needs to happen to fix the problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5kHACjrdEY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

When you see it all condensed like that, it's hard to believe we Americans fell for this ruse -- and also difficult to believe how our country changed course in such a relatively short time as a result of the corporatist takeover, something that really accelerated with Reagan. Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvVAPsn3Fpk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[-] -1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 11 years ago

You're right, and although some are waking up, many Americans continue to fall for the charade. I think the reason the country was able to change course so easily, is because people have no control of their government. The elections are used as a tool, to give us the illusion that we have a choice, when we don't. The choices have been bought by the corps and monied interests.

“What better way to enslave a man than to give him the vote and tell him he’s free.” -Albert Camus

Personally I support a participatory democracy:

http://osixs.org/Rev2_menu_commonsense.aspx

My impressions of reagan when he was in office (I wasn't following politics much then), was that he was a bumbling "Howdy Doody" and enjoined being a puppet; but his"Fascist" overtones usually came through. I took many years before I realized the true damage he had done. Very fitting that he was in GE adds.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Exactly :). It's so weird to think that this kindly old fellow was sort of an unwitting puppet that did so much damage.

[-] 1 points by highlander (-163) 11 years ago

A simplistic piece of propaganda to create class warfare

[-] 0 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Let me guess. You think George Soros produced it. You're unable to argue against any of the points made so you disparage it with an ad hominem. You and the coyote are a lot alike.

[-] 1 points by highlander (-163) 11 years ago

Actually, that did not cross my mind. Other than the villainous stuff reported by Fox and Rush, I am not particularly familiar with the fellow. What I am familar with is the notion being perpetrated that the wealthy are to be fought and overcome. I cannot help but think about the storming of the Bastille or 1917 Russia.- the action of a mob let loose. No good whatsoever came from either action. I do not look to Robspierre or Stalin as ideal leaders.
Money and those who have it cannot be portrayed as evil. Like it or not, the top 10% do pay 70% of the taxes.

[-] 0 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

1% of the population has over 30% of the nations wealth and that percentage is increasing rapidly. And lest you think that's because those smart rich people are working oh so hard, 90% of that wealth was inherited. So much for all those lectures on pulling our selves up by our bootstraps.

The 5 Walton's (that's Walmart family) have as much money as the poorest 140 million Americans. Think about what that means? Especially when they are reducing benefits and 80% of their workers are on public assistance. That's pretty ridiculous. A $1 billion dollar subsidy annually to Walmart. And the company made $15 billion last year.

Hard not to judge them harshly. See real people are suffering as a result of this bullshit. And the wool has been pulled from our eyes. The cat is out of the bag. The genie is out of the bottle. The jig is up.

Stay tuned. Soon, last fall's Occupy protests in cities across the country will look like a warm up. Get ready for a general strike.... it's coming. Stay tuned.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8342) from Phoenix, AZ 11 years ago

"The world’s financial power has been diverted from improving the human condition into money making schemes designed to enrich those who create them." FrF

from my bio

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8342) from Phoenix, AZ 11 years ago

This little gem popped up on the side bar, even I did not know Reagan raised taxes 11 times on people making less than $200,000. He is the only President to cut taxes on the wealthy while in the same bill raising taxes on the middle class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b1ePD_Hi_w

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Son of a gun. That's pretty fucking outrageous. Audacious. Vicious. And he essentially got away with this because of good marketing and folksy charm. Americans have been charmed by all this bullshit. We need the light of day to expose to so-called "average Americans" what's really going on here.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8342) from Phoenix, AZ 11 years ago

re-watched the first one, I said the same thing in my bio

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Let's make it happen. Let's shine the light of day on this this way: Brand New Day is available if we want it. Please see this link http://occupywallst.org/forum/what-really-pisses-me-off-the-most-is-this/ . It's all within our grasp.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

That's the video that got Hannity twisted in knots?

That 2 second scene, with the high and money mighty, looking down on the "little people", with barely heard sound effects?.

Gotta love it................:)

I wanna pee on Hannity and all his FLAKESnews friends!

[-] 3 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

It shows how desperate the 1% are with their propaganda that he is one of their stars :-)

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Can't argue with that.

There's always been something profoundly desperate about FLAKESnews.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

When I see that channel on in lobbies of banks, insurance companies, bars etc., I'm struck by the arrogance of the proprietor. And that happens a lot. I remember when President Bush (senior) lost his reelection bid to Clinton, staffers were shocked. When asked in the days following the loss what they were doing with their time, they replied to reporters that they were "watching a lot of Fox News." That really struck me. Because here was a supposedly intelligent adult essentially saying "I'm burying my head in the sand in the echo chamber of my own making. I'm learning nothing."

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

And that learning nothing in the echo chamber thing still persists to this day.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Fuckers

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

I now eschew establishments featuring FLAKESnews on TV.

That's if they don't throw me out for commenting on what they're saying.

You just can't trust them.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Well that's true. You know, it kind of floors me that fox news watchers don't realize that George Bush's cousin, Roger Ailles, is the person that got fox up and running. And he called the 2000 election for Bush when all the other networks were calling it for Gore. That had a real impact on the election. And people didn't say, huh, I wonder if Bush's cousin running a network (propaganda channel) means we should question the data and motivation. Huh. I wonder.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

How many here have forgotten that Geraldo was one of the first people to ever get mic checked?

I love it!!! One of my favorite scenes from the "early days".

FLAKESnews lies was the call and answer at the time and so it still should be.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Oh that's fantastic. Do you have a link?

[-] 3 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Oh that is just priceless. I just love seeing Cornel West speaking out to millions of bug eyed fox news viewers across the country. It's just wonderful :).

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Musta been better than I thought,. the trolls searched me out for a down vote.................................................:)

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Ha. They crack me up.

[-] 0 points by gsw (3420) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 11 years ago

I thought you were being figurative.

http://www.wsbt.com/entertainment/la-et-st-ed-asner-fox-sean-hannity-20121207,0,4728933.story

Thi s hilarious, just imagining it. Now I will watch it.

Oh Chris Matthews just plugged OWS and 99 percent meme.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

The really funny part, is if you check the youtube you will see that it was FLAKESnews that added in the yellow stream.

they still can't report things without video editing.

[-] 1 points by gsw (3420) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 11 years ago

Now I see:. A yellow stream was missing in original.

I didnt notice it in the fox news version, tilll you pointed it out.

No wonder they feign being upset. ( After they themselves added the pee)

Then, they again blame teachers, for being political.

Actually, PAC fees for political stuff is not included in union dues. Those fees are extra, above and beyond the union dues, that are separate from dues, but for POlitical speech, like this, money well spent. So this is from teachers Private and personal donations, not from unions.

So corporations shoul have speech, not teachers, according to the flake newscasters logic.

That's so funny I will mail hannity a copy of the video once or twice each day for one year. Already sent to my senators.

Ps hannity thanked me once again. I told him it was better unedited, and union dues didn't pay for it.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

According to FLAKESnews, liberals should sit down, shut up, listen to Glenn Beck and never, ever vote.

Fortunately, liberals laugh at such things, as they have a sense of humor.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Twisted in knots and frothing at the mouth and I am sure ( off screen ) lying down and having a fit. Yeah - LOL - Good Times.

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Ed rules!

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

I hope more celebrities realize the power they have to get information out. He was brave to do this. Matt Damon did similar thing narrating inside job.

[-] 1 points by gsw (3420) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 11 years ago
[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Thanks very much. Will check out these links tonight. Very cool.

[-] 1 points by gsw (3420) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 11 years ago

Really good post. I like that the California teachers sponsored the video. Teachers have heart and work for everyone, kids and planet's future is their concern. They are concerned for 99 percent, and that all voices are lifted. Way for them to fight for the 99 percent! Great videos.

And Where the one percent are pointing fingers at everyone, nails it!

Everyone, email that video to boehner http://boehner.house.gov/contact/ and and all who are wrecking the country. http://www.house.gov/

http://maps.huge.info/zip.htm. Zip code finder to mail to all the 1 percent loving Scrooge-politicians

Just today, some ol guy was complaining about "welfare-loving" Obama. I had to remind him of the Walmart workers not able to afford food needing food stamps. That shut him up.

I want to send this video to everyone for Christmas.

I'll Mail it to hannity too.

Here's all the repubs if anyone else wants to mail it to repub reps. http://www.gop.gov/republicans and http://www.dems.gov/contact. At least their staff may view it. http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Ps hannity says thank you for sending link to video http://www.hannity.com/contact/process

[-] 4 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Ha! Fantastic. We can't let wacko conservatives speak such nonsense without a verbal response any more. Good for you!

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

We certainly have great left wing celebrities compared to wackjob rightie celebs (Nugent, conners, etc) Andthey can be critical of weak dems which is good.

Ed has always been a great liberal soldier.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

I need to research him a bit. Don't know much about his political efforts.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

He was head ofthe actors union I think in the '70's. But has always but a fighter for liberal causes.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 11 years ago

Very cool

[-] -1 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

asner is a self proclaimed member of the socialist party. obama is taking a shit on the entire country and dummies like you are cheering him on.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

But Pres has turned the repub 'great recession' into the Obama recovery. (weak becaus3e of traitorous repub obstruction).

Repubs are the problem. They shit on the decent hard working Americans at the behest of corp 1% oligarchs.

When you support them you betray your class & share the repubs dishonor.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

And dummies like you are cheering for exactly who and what?

[-] -1 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

anyone who stands up to the obama regime

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

That's not exact.

It's just wiggling and squirming.

Give me an actual name.

[-] -1 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

I have no" actual" name(s). I applaud anyone or group that stands up for the BOR and opposes the obama regime.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Still incapable of being exact I see. Is it the Kochs you're applauding?

What about those that are standing against the Snyder regime in Michigan?

[-] -1 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

I have no knowledge of the Kochs activities. Regarding Snyder and the Michigan legislature, congratulations to them. I did see a video of a pro union person punching ( more than once) a reporter who did nothing to incite the violence .There was also the dem. Michigan legislator who promised the would be blood is this passed.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

FLAKESnews has done more to incite violence against itself than ANY other TV propaganda outlet..!

It's simple, they are kings of lying ass shit.

Now answer the question, instead of constantly evading it.

[-] 0 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

the violence was entirely due to the union people. union people destroyed a tent ( afp) that had men and women in it. tony camargo was the man who punched ( more than once ) the interviewer who did nothing more then ask questions. the interviewer did not fight back.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

LIAR!

http://www.politicususa.com/americans-prosperity-fake-attack-tent-michigan-work-rally.html

FLAKESnews LIES!!!

It's all they fuckin' do, and YOU believe those lies.

Now repeat after me..

FLAKEnews lies!

You do recall the palm tree incident?

They've been lying since they went on the air.

[-] -1 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

camargo attacked the interviewer for asking some questions, , punched the interviewer numerous times. The interviewer did not hit back.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

I saw the video, I saw the right wing anti labor reporter taunting, and his provocations, and his smugness and his ridicule, and his disrespect, and I saw the reporter lunge right into the fray.

He wanted to get a beatin'. He refused to listen to the mostly non violent protesters begging him to stop. He refused to stop until he got the beating he wanted. Of course then he stopped. Problem solved.

His goal was to provoke this violence and smart people will note that 99.99% of the 12k decent hard working Americans protesting didn't take his dishonorable bait.

One did. I give him a break because I know that sometimes you break, you are weak in the face of the type of intense abuse he was subjected to.

[-] -3 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

there was no " taunting", just a question that were asked. "What is it about right to work that you oppose so much"?The repsonse from the union guy was to punch ( more than once ) the interviewer.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

This thought is no-doubt wasted on you - But - Have you ever heard it said that you should not stand in front of an angry Bull(?) - But then to go ahead and prod it? Doing so you of course know that you are gonna get stomped - but you went ahead and ya did it anyway.

[-] -2 points by freakyfriday (179) 11 years ago

When occupiers taunt and stand in front of angry cops and they get out the pepper spary, guess they get what they asked for, huh?

[-] -2 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

blaming the victim,........how quaint. If mr. camargo didnt not want to answer any questions he could have walked away. in fact at one point the interviewer was walking away and camargo grabbed him and punched him again.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Vision fine. You need to get your integrity checked.

Why do you support 'right to work for less. laws.?

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[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

I saw the interviewer taunt, disrespect, provoke and hit back.

My problem with right to work for less is that it is race to the bottom and creates the ability of corps to pay workers less! provide poor benefits.

It pits states againsteach other in a competition of who can offer the lowest cost workers. That only helps the corp 1% oligarchs continue exploiting decent hard working American workers.

It also is an attempt to destroy unions capacity to contribute to candidates that support worker issues.

Why do you support it.?

[-] -2 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

You need to get your vision checked.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

BTW - you have a video link that shows this "incident" - um - In full context?

Something with or without commentary?

Any follow-up investigative report commentary?

Police statements?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

He provoked them. He wanted to get beat up. He got what he wanted. You should be happy! now you can call all the decent hard working Americans thugs!

[-] -1 points by nidlaxto (-42) 11 years ago

That guy is a real low life for sucker punching someone like that. I bet if he fought someone toe to toe then he would get his union thug ass kicked

[-] -1 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

Did you watch the video?The interviewer did not provoke anyone. Your " spin" isnt working. Anone that repeatedly punches someone , ( who does not hit back ) for asking some questions IS a thug.

[-] -2 points by freakyfriday (179) 11 years ago

When occupiers taunt and provoke the cops, is it ok for them to retaliate?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

"asking questions is not smug" no but he was being smug! He was mocking them, he and his koch brother funded Americans for prosperity tent dwellers were throwing pennies at the workers claiming that was "all there labor was worth". He and his tea party right wing wackos were provoking the decent hard working Americans fighting for there livelihood, and when you provoke people they react. Not all of the 12k protesters reacted but 1 did, and that is all it takes to shut up those without honor.

Your right wing, tea party, smug, little shit deserved a beating.

[-] -2 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

sure, right, he ( union dimbass) couldnt help hinself, he was forced to repeatedly punch an interviewer. the questions made him do it. You are whats wrong with humanity , which is considered a plus character trait for te lib/dem/progressive.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

The interviewer was smug disrespectful and provoked the attack.

The workers were fighting for their livelihood.

Interviewer deserved a beating, but I have to say officially we should not have hit him........... on camera. LOL ;)

[-] -1 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 11 years ago

"We"? "We"? Are we to consider this your confession?

[-] -1 points by town (-374) 11 years ago

Asking questions is not smug or disrespectful. Since when is beating up an interviewer " fighting for their livelihood"? the interviewer is not their employer. Your last sentence say evrything there is to know about you. "Interviewer deserved a beating, but I have to say officially we should not have hit him............on camera . LOL ;)." By the use of "we" you have indentified yourself as a thug with no regard for other people and a belief that violence is the answer to people you don't like.