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Forum Post: Drone strike "double-tap"

Posted 1 year ago on July 15, 2013, 10:53 p.m. EST by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO
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[-] 2 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

Out of sight, out of mind.

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Yep.

[-] -2 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

We are living in a time where we are attacking and bombing all over the place, and its not even a topic in elections.

Bush succeeded. He desensitized the entire nation to war.

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Bush definitely had a big hand in it, in concert with the media, in concert with the military-entertainment complex. I'm sure you read my old post.

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (21343) 1 year ago

Here's an article by a grandfather who's 16 year old grandson was an American citizen, killed by a drone in Yemen in 2011.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/opinion/the-drone-that-killed-my-grandson.html

"Abdulrahman was born in Denver. He lived in America until he was 7, then came to live with me in Yemen. He was a typical teenager — he watched “The Simpsons,” listened to Snoop Dogg, read “Harry Potter” and had a Facebook page with many friends. He had a mop of curly hair, glasses like me and a wide, goofy smile."

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Hi bw. All I can do is shake my head. It's almost unreal what this country's become, isn't it? Even sadder to realize how long the metamorphosis of our government has been going on. We're seeing the culmination of a plan that's been in the works since essentially the end of WWII, I think.

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (21343) 1 year ago

It is truly unreal. That is why it is important to put a human face to the victims because it is so easy to dismiss them as the "other" and continue on with fear and hatred. But, they are real people, and don't Americans wonder what ever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Yes, putting a human face on these tragedies does bring it all into sharp focus. It's truly depressing to see the young ones, the babies, that have been victims of all this. I started watching a YT clip a little while back with some of the school-age kids being admitted into a hospital somewhere over there, Afghanistan I think. I had to turn it off, I couldn't watch the whole thing. How do our elected leaders sleep at night? You know they've had to have seen some of those.

[-] -2 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

A fuckin drone just crashed in Florida yesterday:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/drone-crash_n_3612098.html

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (21343) 1 year ago

Holy crap. That is unbelievable. I'm speechless.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

People in this country dont even realize that machines that kill people are now officially a problem that has to be dealt with.

Skynet.

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Did you see the comment section in the last couple hours? Ex-forum member Richard Gates weighed in on the incident. Apparently it's not as remote a highway as HuffPo is letting on.

[-] -1 points by beautifulworld (21343) 1 year ago

Interesting.

[-] 0 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Yes it was. I believe what he says in his comment, too.

I think it's too bad Gates got fed up with this forum and decided to bail. He seemed off-the-wall at times, but he was definitely one of us, and we need all the participants we can get.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Drones are just a tool and a weapon, of which guns, missiles and greed are the heavyweight killers. Don't you know War and Unregulated Capitalism are the real culprits? Get the big pic!

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

I agree completely. Got the big pic, but that doesn't mean this wasn't something post-worthy. Especially since the forum's been a bit slow. And it gives the forum readers something to ponder other than the Travon verdict.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Absolutely.

But many focus on the particular and minute, and ignore the primary and root!

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

True. Best to see the forest and the trees, but know the difference.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

End bogus and vicious wars regardless of weaponry! Off-shoring jobs and stagnating wages are more deadly weapons. Greed is the biggest offender.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

Yes, someone losing their job is definitely more devastating than coming home to find the Americans have dropped a bomb on your house and killed your wife/husband and two kids.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

See the forest for the trees.

Whole countries are devastated by greed and war.

Don't focus on the simplistic.

[-] -2 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

I agree that it all comes down to greed. That and personal insecurities.

This was the statement I was referring to "Off-shoring jobs and stagnating wages are more deadly weapons"

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Thanx

We don't solve any problem banning drones, even if it wasn't an utter decoy (red herring) impossibility.

War and tyranny are the real problems. Don't let them sidetrack you.

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Or worse. Coming out after the drone strike to tend to the dead and wounded, just to get hit again! That's a damn war crime by any definition.

[-] -2 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

Ya thats about as fucked up as it gets

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

That's what I was thinking when I came across the first article. Drone strikes are bad enough in their own right, but striking the first-responders? WTF is that supposed to accomplish other than further fueling the flames of hatred? I don't blame them for hating the US government's guts, and if we ever suffer another 9-11 type disaster, it's the administration's own damn fault!

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (18019) 1 year ago

On the matter of 'Drones', I append fyi in compliment to your comment and forum-post :

multum in parvo ...

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Thanks, my friend, for the informative links. I haven't had the chance to check any from the first link yet; it looks like there's enough on there to keep one busy for quite a while. But that second link? Wow! I've bookmarked it to check out some of the references. I'd heard rumor of the nanothermite but didn't realize there had been two undisputed (so far) peer-reviewed papers published on it. Admittedly, I haven't really done much reading on 9-11, a little here and there is all. But the story of suspicious insider trading just prior? I reiterate; Wow! Now, how evil is that? To profit off such a tragedy, if that's the proper word, leaves me almost speechless.

It took a while to read thru it, though. I was distracted by a lively conversation with Zen on another post, heheheh.

And I'll have to check out Mark Gaffney's website. GnosticSecrets.com? Hmmm . . . .sounds right up my alley. ;-)

ubi est iustitia?

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (18019) 12 months ago

You end by asking a great question. I can't answer but can add to the body of evidence that precipitates such an inquiry :

''Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money.'' ~ Josiah Stamp – Bank of England Chairman, 1920s.

ALL things are connected - eventually (just ask Kevin Bacon !) but some things are connected in the most sinister ways which now require the constant monitoring of the general population lest we join the dots and 'agitate, educate and organise' but we will still endeavour to do exactly that !! Also consider :

multum in parvo ...

[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 12 months ago

Impeccable timing. I just logged on not one half hour ago and will check your links directly.

All things are connected as we know and there is certainly a connection between banker $henanigan$ and justice (or lack thereof) in this country.

Thanks for all you do here, shadz. Knowledge is power and we definitely need all the power we can muster. Solidarity, my friend.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (18019) 12 months ago

Note the reactionary, rancid right-wing stinklers whose real preference for sucking up to The Kochs has meant that they've sold their souls to the corporations in return of vague promises of 30 pieces of silver. Hell is too good for them. Good night gno(sis) & the secret ... is that, there are NO secrets ;-) & also :

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] -2 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 12 months ago

I saw that stinkle, my friend, and boy were they quick! It seemed like I got "zeroed' as soon as I hit save, heheh. But you know me, I'm unfazed, and have plenty of "support" here. Who knows, it might even make it into 'Best comments' before the night is thru. ;-)