Forum Post: drinking water less important than money in the desert
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 16, 2011, 6:13 p.m. EST by flashcards
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I am a great supporter of OWS, but please quit quoting "Noam Chomski" and others. They are NO PROOF of anything. Find your own voice and share it. It doesn't have to be witty or smart, just honest and the truth.
Like Las Vegas being a desert should not have a water park. people need that water to drink!!!!!!!!! Some developer (Rodger Bulloch) is building a water park to make money, while the people of Las Vegas will face higher drinking water cost because the already depleted Lake Mead( which supplies the water for Vegas) is estimated to be dry in as little as 3 years. Yes this may create some minimum wage jobs, but those poor unfortunate soles will end up spending all that hard earned cash on staying alive.
Occupy his building Site!!!!!!!
What a gigantic waste of resources.
Hope you can make some headway with this occupation.
When the collapse comes, the person with food and water will be richer than the person with a ton of gold.
There's nothing wrong with quoting great people. I keep quotes from many of the great scientists that have inspired me on my tac-board.
As for water, I agree completely - it's really another fine example of the depth of this societies delusion. With the effects of climate change starting to show up in force, fresh-water, which only makes up around 2% of the planets water will be a scarce resource soon. Numerous countries from around the world are depending on the over-pumping of fossil aquifers to supply water for irrigation - this is unsustainable.
Look at Lakes Mead and Powell, both are being used in a very irresponsible manner. And the possibility of increasing drought in the area, and more importantly, with less snow and earlier snow melt in the rockies... the lakes will probably become far less reliable in the future.
Check out the map of the drought conditions in the US...
http://rhinohide.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/lake-mead-a-falling-tide/#thumb
Future calamities from climate change and other environmental disruptions are no longer just things for our children have to worry about. I'm 28, and the life my father was able to live will never be available to me. I don't mind however, I'm ready for the change in consciousness that'll take our species beyond our destructive habits. What's happening at Mead and Powell is happening all over the planet, and it needs to be checked. But it's really just another symptom of a far greater problem... and what's most saddening is, we have a political system that won't even acknowledge it, much less do something about it!
Thank you for such an eloquent reply, I do wish Occupy Las Vegas would go pay the site a visit.....
No problem! I hope they do as well.
I don't live in Las Vegas but the fact they are allowing a guy to deplete their drinking water for the owner's personal profit sounds insane.
LoL yup, but the local government has their hand in the cookie Jar too.. Public Private partnership.... we all know what that means.... cost of importing water will be passed on to the TAX PAYER. I posted this on the OLasVegas page but absolutely no interest, which I find astounding.
I've never been there, but apparently many Las Vegas people are doing a lot to conserve water ( http://lasvegas-news.info/las-vegas-top-stories/vegas-tries-to-kick-its-water-addiction.html ). Apparently they have two waterparks under construction - one, Las Vegas Wet, is described by Wikipedia as planned to be America's largest indoor waterpark ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoor_waterpark ) and this other one "Splash Canyon" is 25 acres ( http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/14/4053686/splash-canyon-waterpark-to-open.html ). Now indoor waterparks potentially make a lot of sense in a desert - in theory, you could make one as watertight as a mission to Mars and not use a drop of water. But I don't see anything to indicate that Splash Canyon is one of them.
Making the desert an oasis is something that Americans should be proud of, just as the Israelis are. But wasting or mismanaging the water, running out, ruining the environment is another story altogether. Can anyone from Las Vegas give us some perspective here so we understand the story better?
yes all very indoor LOL. Especially to next 40 acre expansion.
LOL indoor http://splashlv.com/attractions/
There are people who think we can build pressure domes on Mars. If you wanted to, I don't see why you couldn't cover 40 acres with a high waterproof plastic enclosure and wring the water out of the air on the way out (refrigerate it, then use countercurrent exchange to transfer the coldness to the air coming in). But yes, the picture clarifies that this is entirely outdoor. That first article says it takes two full bathtubs of water to keep one square foot of grass in Las Vegas for a year, and I suppose water slides evaporate even more water than grass...
Yes they do especially in the summer when this park will be open. All the splashing increases the surface area able to evaporate as well.
if your local govt allows that nonsense; than it should be united we stand in getting rid of them.
Not my local government and I do not live in Vegas, I am a great supporter of the whole Occupy movement. and just felt I should highlight this point. Another example of greed taking precedence over the people.
I remember 10 years ago when I was out there they were pissed off at people watering their lawn, could not imagine a water park
Contact Occupy Las Vegas and organize! http://occupylasvegas.org/
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-occupy-las-vegas-nevada-economy.html
So now I must have 50 logins, If you are a member there plz repost.
No, I am not a member. That sounds frustrating. May I recommend that you use the same login and pword for each site. It will ease the frustration of having so many. I teach my students the following: Choose 3 passwords you will always remember. Decide what each one will be used for (one for emails and other communication platforms; one for blogs, news, subscription sites; and another for online banking, purchasing, etc). One or two usernames. Hope this helps.
Yes, but they also require my email and other things to register and I have good reason to want to remain annon.
plz read http://occupywallst.org/forum/protestors-get-deported/
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Already posted, just not happy about it
Yes you beat me to it. I am sorry to hear of the injustices you potentially face when protesting. I work with immigrants and know some of the hardships you speak to. You are brave to take these risks, but do minimize and optimize your risks. You might want to reduce your presence and your logins. Peace and good luck.
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