Forum Post: Don't waste time protesting the dying bull, because once it is dead, there is not going to be any meat left on the corpse for you to eat from.
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 3, 2011, 7:58 p.m. EST by omniscientfool
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Protesting Wall Street and a banking system that is collapsing and not going to exist in its current state a year or two from now is futile, like protesting the sun coming up in the morning. The world is heading rapidly towards economy collapse, the very banks you are railing against a going to be bankrupt and collapse along with the rest of us. Unlike the 20's & 30's our urban society is not set up for people to grow their own food & survive. The 99% will become completely dependent on the one thing that remains, the government.
What happens when BOA and CITI, GS & MS all fail, when everyone’s retirements and life savings are wiped out? Will blaming them be enough? Does the Federal Reserve print more money and bail them out, or do we let the 99% starve to death? What happens when the government & Federal Reserve, the agency which is unelected, unaccountable and omnipotent steps in and buys up everything to save "us' and ends up owning everything…
Ask yourself, what will everyone do when a government that just publicly assassinated an American citizen without trial and due process, simply by calling they were a “terrorist” owns/runs everything?
Protest the Federal Reserve, protest the Obama admin, (the last two Bush's as well), protest the lack of oversight and accountability, but don't waste time protesting the dying bull, because once it is dead, there is not going to be any meat left on the corpse for you to eat from.
I agree with you you got all these "smart' experts here with their "complicated advice" its real simple stupid americans, STOP BUYING and when christmas comes give up your little fairy tales, your gods, religions and bullshit beliefs, until this goes to the way side ain't nothing going to change, this is bullshit here no one speaks truth, truth is YOU are part of the problem, do you watch FOOTBALL, BASEBALL, BASKETBALL, DOES YOUR WIFE DAUGHTERS POP CULTURE AND FOLLOW TRENDS, MEDIA, BUY MAKE-UP, DO YOU WATCH TELEVISION WITH ALL THOSE SPONSORS? If you do , YOU ARE THE PROBLEM FAT ASS AMERICA, Do you watch their pathetic Holllywood moives, but Nike Tennis shoes, do you think your buying american cause you own a Harley and the list could go on and on, YOUY ARE THE PROBLEM AMERICA you and your Walmart FAT FUCKING STUPID BEER DRINKING ASSES
this is a bunch of bullshit. wall street and the banks are the system. they control everything. the democrats and republicans have no power but that which the rich 1 percent give to them. that is why this movement is so great, they understand who the real enemy is. its not washington, its not obama, this is a class war, the enemy is the billionaires and the bankers.
The Fed is the system
this is a bunch of bullshit. wall street and the banks are the system. they control everything. the democrats and republicans have no power but that which the rich 1 percent give to them. that is why this movement is so great, they understand who the real enemy is. its not washington, its not obama, this is a class war, the enemy is the billionaires and the bankers.
This is defeatist nonsense. The capital stock of the world is sufficient to keep everyone fed and expand. Yes, the banks are bankrupt and have to be declared as such in the near future. This is inevitable and you are right about that.
There is absolutely no reason for us to all end up starving though.
you are missing an important point. civilization is flushing down the toilet and if it does we all die on just the important principles you name but fail apparently to model.
We must change the course and direction of everything before that happens. In that sense, we are the ones rescuing that Bull, but now its going to get melted down and turned into something else.
sorry, i do know exactly what feudalism is. You trying to talk about its main features and then say that other features of feudalism are not the feudalism is silly. The dominant or single most relevant point is land ownership, certainly, but there are other features of feudalism, one of which is most certainly taxes, and to the point, by definition taxation as such begins in feudal systems. It is remarkably futile and silly to argue with me. It would be wiser to stop and take your opportunity to chat with the DJIN. capitalism is ALSO a system which has NEVER existed.
the core issues; 1. Corporate Personhood. 2. Caste Warfare; they started it. 3. Its legal to lie to the USA public. 4. They are OUR airwaves. They should be used for WETHEPEOPLE not leased by the government to corporations. Put Local colleges in charge of all the media. Arrest and seize all mass media devices and then give those devices straight out to the local colleges, including the land they sit on. We need education public media; not legalized lying and propaganda wars against the people. 5. Education reform. Everyones being kept stupid and ignorant on purpose in school and repugnicons want to argue about how to pay or punish teachers. We need child centered education reform, not a con scam to privatize education and thus score all our children for corporate zombotification. 6. Free market system. Not slave market system. Not caste market system. Not Caste warfare market system. Not rigged Casino. Not making something off of nothing and making bubbles to grease a gravy train either. Free market system. We must have one of those. Its time to have one of those. We have NEVER YET had one of those. 7. Realistic regulation of the government to regulate and control corporations so that what they do is fair and just and ethical and under control instead of a parade of unleashed godzillas turning the masses into to toe jam. 8. Real and direct representation, including no more lobbying, and including an evolutionary use of the internet with organized forums and wikis replacing the old style of congressional/ mayoral office.
"Right, but that still doesn't preclude taxation, which is in fact necessary to regulate the value of money"
nope. taxation period of any kind is merely and only a means to the end of creating a caste system. And even deeper, taxation dynamically entropizes a system, so its not only not necessary to regulate money, its the single largest entropic contributor to the system. The ONLY reason why we pay taxes is thats the feudal system; the idea that we pay anything remotely approaching the same thing or fair to what the rich pay is preposterous. The whole point of taxes is to distribute wealth from the poor to the rich. period.
gawdoftruth (Santa Barbara, CA) 1 points 0 seconds ago
"the end goal product should be that every small community takes care of its own. Any federal system is a problem definition of something requiring more serious attention to solve. long term social programs managed by nation sized meta entities is a disaster not only socially and civilly but to the people who get third rate borg social services. A well functioning system does not need a welfare system, it only has a highly evolved net which catches people and only involves less than one percent of the population at any given time, not punishing but rehabing and educating folks. Until such time as that end goal is achieved, no hand outs is a paradox... you have to spend time and thus money in order to fix the problems till their fixed past needing time or money."