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Forum Post: Don't get duped by the "Right vs. Left" - they are both bought and paid for!!!

Posted 2 years ago on Dec. 26, 2011, 1:05 p.m. EST by LSN45 (535)
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There are a lot of improvements that need to be made. The list reforms Americans want to see is long and varied depending on who you talk to. That said, I believe there is one reform that would provide the American people the best chances of seeing other meaningful reforms actually happen - that is REAL, loop-hope free CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM! I have seen others on this site calling this the "fulcrum" or pivotal issue. Right now the current legalized bribery, pay-to-play system of campaign donations and paid lobbyists has disenfranchised the American voter. Until this is fixed, any other reform the politicians may try to placate us with (be it a change to healthcare, clamping down predatory school loans, new financial regulations, etc.) will be about as effective as a farmer putting a new roof on his CHICKEN COOP, but still letting the FOX guard it.

We need to go back to the original political currency. Instead of the current system of who can collect the most money from corporations and special interests it should be who has the BEST IDEAS to EFFECTIVELY RUN THE COUNTRY (we don't need "Wealth Redistribution," what we need is "Political Influence Redistribution")!

For the sake of our children and future generations of Americans, we need to take back our democracy from the rich and powerful who are using their vast sums of money to "speak" as if they represent millions of Americans. This "Corporate Personhood" that has crept into our laws is allowing them to manipulating our policies in their favor at the expense of the average American (the recent "Citizens United" Supreme Court ruling is a miscarriage of justice and must be reversed. The $50 or $100 a normal American may give to a political campaign becomes meaningless when corporations or other special interests are handing our millions to buy political access to the decision making process.

For decades now the corporations and special interests have had our "representatives" bought and paid for (both on the right and the left). Concentrating our efforts on getting the money out of our politics is the best way we can create an environment in which further reforms can be realized. Until we end the current system of legalized bribery (campaign donations) and paid lobbying our politicians will continue to be the LAP DOGS of the corporations and special interests. What we need first and foremost is real, loop-hole free CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!!!! If the corruption is not dealt with first, the chance of any other meaningful reforms becoming a reality is almost zero - the special interests will just use their money to buy votes and put forward bills that create loop-holes or otherwise twist the law in their favor. If we want our children to live in a country where there vote matters, we need to get the money out of our politics, otherwise they will increasingly become the 21st century version of the "landless peasant." Spread the word - End the LEGALIZED BRIBERY!!! CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM needs to be THE main goal of the protests!!!

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[-] 1 points by LSN45 (535) 2 years ago

Your right - On a side note, if you have not seen it already rent the documentary "Inside Job" which explores the causes of the 2008 financial collapse. Unfortunately the same culture persists and many of the people that had a hand in the collapse are still at the wheel.

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[-] 2 points by LSN45 (535) 2 years ago

No Joke! What also amazed me was the amount of "conflict of interest" going on within the economics academia.

[-] 1 points by alexrai (851) 2 years ago

lol. ya, the ideology masquerading as a science called "economics" needs a serious overhaul... hopefully it will come now that it is blatantly obvious to everyone who is not an economist that what they have been preaching for the last 30 years was a bunch of BS.

[-] 2 points by ZenRiverOtter (2) 2 years ago

Even if we could vote in an honest republican or honest democrat that would not succumb to the millions offered legally by corporations. If they voted against a bill that goes against the interests of the 1% they would face multi million dollar smear campaigns for doing that. As long as money is speech no other voice on any issue can be heard. The MSM says that we have no clear message so many times that most of the occupiers themselves even believe it now. Yet I say that the one true message that has been here from the start is still here in every resolution, proposition and declaration every group has ever made. END CORPORATE PERSONHOOD! The one true message that is the linchpin to getting every other message heard. Because no other message can be heard over the booming voice of money. We must repeat this one phrase over and over marching in legally permitted demonstration every 17th of every month in every city that ever held or wanted to hold an Occupy until this message become nothing less than the 28th amendment to The Constitution of The United States of America We must end corporate personhood and return to a true multi party government. The O.C.C.U.P.I.E.D. amendment can do that and in my humble opinion must be foremost to any other quest. O.C.C.U.P.I.E.D is the past tense word to Occupy O.C.C.U.P.I.E.D means Occupy won.

[-] 1 points by LSN45 (535) 2 years ago

Bingo! You hit the problem on the head. Unfortunately, the honest people we wish we could vote for don't even make it to the primaries because they essentially have to sell their soul to even be picked up by the media.
We need to reinstate the preeminence of flesh and blood Americans over the corporation and ending corporate person-hood / reversing the "Citizens United" ruling is paramount. You will notice that under my post I also include "other special interests" because I think that whatever is done will also need address other forms of financial influence that may go beyond just the ending of corporate personhood (for example, provisions that would keep corporate interests from simply having a private individual make the contribution for them). I personally really like the idea of setting up a trust fund for public financing of elections. That said, please keep shouting it loud and clear and explain the concept to everyone that will listen!

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 2 years ago

"For years, FairVote has highlighted how our nation's reliance upon winner-take-all elections and single member districts for Congressional elections without national standards has left our voting process open to the abuses of unfair partisan gerrymandering. Insiders for decades have known how powerful redistricting can be for elected officials to protect friends and undermine opponents. It's a blood sport that both parties have exploited, thereby minimizing the role of voters in the political process. By gerrymandering the districts, legislators and their political cronies have used redistricting to choose their voters, before voters have had the opportunity to choose them."

http://www.fairvote.org/redistricting#.TvkBZNXQCZQ

[-] 2 points by LSN45 (535) 2 years ago

I saw a statistic a while back stating that the incumbent wins about 94% of the time. That, when compared with how poorly the country is being ran, about says it all.

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 2 years ago

Wow, yeah. Speaks VOLUMES, considering approval rating is at an all-time low. Makes me wonder if we really should go third party en masse.

[-] 2 points by LSN45 (535) 2 years ago

It is no surprise. The incumbent has so much money thrown at them to buy their favor that it is incredible the someone else ever wins.

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 2 years ago

Both parties are guilty of rigging elections by gerrymandering.

"The 2004 House of Representatives elections were "the least competitive in history", according to Rob Richie of the nonpartisan Center for Voting and Democracy, because the number of marginal races plummeted to less than one in twenty, a record low, and only three incumbents outside Texas lost their seats (Richie, 2005). Texas was a special case, because of an aggressive and utterly anomalous extra round of gerrymandering orchestrated by the House's Texan majority leader, Tom DeLay, in 2003, which was designed solely to tip the balance of Texas's congressional delegation from Democratic to Republican control. (And so it came to pass.) In California, the most populous state in the union, not one of the 153 congressional and legislative seats up for grabs changed party hands. "What kind of democracy is that?" California's unorthodox movie-star governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, asked as he (unsuccessfully) proposed moving the redistricting process back into the hands of an independent, nonpartisan panel in 2005 (Schwarzenegger, 2005). "

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2267/is_4_75/ai_n31461999/pg_8/

[-] 2 points by gsw (2697) 2 years ago

homogenous gerrymandering results in "the party" playing to it's base, preaching to the choir, to be reelected, and not working together solve problems of all of the people, just those of the partisans and sponsors :(

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