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Forum Post: Does not look like it is ISIS

Posted 2 months ago on June 21, 2014, 2:26 a.m. EST by Shule (1696)
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In all likelihood this thing about some outside terror group called ISIS taking over Iraq is some fabrication from our own bull spewing government here in the U.S.A. According to the article below its a larger coalition of local Iraqi freedom fighters that is taking over large swaths of Iraq. Could it be that patriotic Iraqis are finallly taking their own country back by ousting that quisling government that the U.S.A. installed?




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[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4529) 2 months ago

Good Post

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1132) 2 months ago

Sounds about right.

[-] 1 points by RadBrad (12) 2 months ago

No, not at all

[-] 0 points by Shule (1696) 2 months ago

Oh, Then what?

[-] 1 points by RadBrad (12) 2 months ago

Are you blind? Highly motivated and surprisingly well trained and highly funded and well equipped radical Islamic militants who have kicked the collective ass of the Iraqi army and police force. How do you not see that?

[-] 2 points by Shule (1696) 2 months ago

To my understanding there is really not much of a fight going on. The Iraqi army and police are in essense handing their weapons over to ISIS as they roll into town. Now, for that to happen more has got to be going than just a bunch crazed terrorist dudes runnning around the desert. Only question is exactly what?

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 months ago

Re. ''surprisingly well trained'', perhaps consider :

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by RadBrad (12) 2 months ago

I'm not denying that it happened, because it probably did since the current administration is filled with a bunch of fools, but to say that ISIS is a large group of patriotic Iraqis is just foolish.

[-] 4 points by Shule (1696) 2 months ago

As shadz66 is suggesting below, if one is an Iraqi both the old Sadam Hussein government and ISIS is preferable to the U.S.A. installed quisling government that is running the country now. Why would there not be a large group of patriotic Iraqis trying to get their country back?

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 months ago

''What Did the White House Know? Did Obama Know that ISIS Planned to Invade Iraq?'' by Mike Whitney :

''ISIS in Iraq Stinks of CIA/NATO ‘Dirty War’ Op'', by William Engdahl :

''The Soaring Profits of the Military-Industrial Complex'', by Prof. James Petras :

''The power and influence of the military-industrial complex in promoting serial wars has resulted in extraordinary rates of profit. According to a recent study by Morgan Stanley, shares in the major US arms manufacturers have risen 27,699% over the past fifty years versus 6,777% for the broader market. In the past three years alone, Raytheon has returned 124%, Northrup Grumman 114% and Lockheed Martin 149% to their investors.

''The Obama regime makes a grand public show of reducing the military budget via the annual appropriation bill, and then, turns around and announces emergency supplemental funds to cover the costs of these wars — thereby actually increasing military spending, all the while waving the banner of ‘cost cutting’. Obama’s theatrics have fattened the profits for the US military-industrial complex.''

fiat lux, fiat justitia, fiat pax ...

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 months ago

Dr. Dahlia Wasfi is the daughter of a Jewish-American mother and a Muslim-Iraqi father and writes from a particular perspective, so you should give some credence to what she says ... but I get your point too and please try to view the video at the end of Shule's ICH link.

The bigger picture here is the 'foreign trained, armed, equipped and supplied' - battle hardened 'spear tip' and the numerous local tribal, ex-Baathist, Iraqi Nationalist & disaffected Sunnis - who've now allied with ISIS for their own immediate interests and political advantage.

It's now one Giant Shit Sandwich and we may all have to take a bite but no one is going to convince me that over eleven years of this shit, with another 11+ years of horror before that - is/was/would have been better than Saddam Hussein & his brutal yet functional regime.

The USA and its allies were right behind SH when he was fighting an 8 year war with Iran (in which over one million people died). Removing SH was the work, responsibility and duty of Iraqis & No One Else !!!

But alas geo-politics, hydrocarbons and finally International Bankster Crapitalism {when SH wanted to sell Iraq's oil & gas in any currency other than US dollars} trumped all other considerations !!

Look closely at what we've all got now - while those Neocon Scum are being rehabilitated all over [The Corporate Owned] MSM - you just could NOT have made any of this shit up, ffs !

respice, adspice, prospice ...