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Forum Post: Do get to cast TWO votes? Joel Kleefisch does!

Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 23, 2012, 7:47 p.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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Wisconsin ( yes that Wisconsin ) rep was caught on video - voting twice.
Oh.
Did I forget to mention he's an Rs?
Did I forget to mention he works in the state government?
Did I forget to mention he is an Rs state legislator?


Joel Klee fisch, an Rs Wisconsin state representative
who supported the state's voter ID law
is now be accused of voter fraud himself.
"Proof Of Voter Fraud In The Wisconsin State Assembly" shows Kleefisch getting out of his chair to electronically cast a vote for a member who was away from the Assembly floor.
Wisconsin state Assembly rule 76 clearly says that
"only the members present in the assembly chamber may vote"


You can't vote twice, but you can be an eyewitness to voter fraud


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xDiQgcVUZ3Q

13 Comments

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[-] 2 points by ThunderclapNewman (1083) from Nanty Glo, PA 2 years ago

Outrageous! Not to put too fine a point on this but the guy actually voted three times. We just didn't get to see him push the button at his own seat.

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[-] -1 points by HarryPairatestes2 (380) from Barrow, AK 2 years ago

Are you sure the absent member did not give permission to Kleefisch to cast a vote for them? Was the absent member out of the assembly chamber? Plus, you can see that someone else was also going to cast a vote at that empty space. Who was the other person?

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

I'm not a Wisconsin law expert, but I would assume you can't give someone else the right to break the law

[-] -1 points by HarryPairatestes2 (380) from Barrow, AK 2 years ago

What law was broken?

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

Wisconsin state Assembly rule 76

[-] -1 points by HarryPairatestes2 (380) from Barrow, AK 2 years ago

So you know for sure that the person who was not in their seat was also not in the Assembly chamber?

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

Do I know Joel is an Rs? - yes he is an Rs

[-] -1 points by HarryPairatestes2 (380) from Barrow, AK 2 years ago

Your reply makes no sense.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

secret code - read my post out loud

[-] 0 points by HarryPairatestes2 (380) from Barrow, AK 2 years ago

Haha. But, it still doesn't mean he broke any law.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

playing a semantic game are we? OK the WI government "rule" may not be a "law" I dont really know does that really make it right?

[-] 0 points by HarryPairatestes2 (380) from Barrow, AK 2 years ago

I don't even think he broke a Wisconsin government rule. Was the person who was not in the seat also not in the assembly chamber? If the person was in the chamber and told Kleefisch to vote for them it doesn't look like any rule was broken. If the the person was not in the chamber but gave Kleefisch permission to vote for them, letter of the rule was violated but maybe not the spirit of the law.

Since someone else was also reaching over to cast the vote at that table, it seems it is a method used by the assembly members.

[-] 1 points by ShockSMH (18) 2 years ago

Rule or law is irrelevant. The practice of entering votes for other people is unethical and immoral. If a member of the assembly is granted one vote, they should enter one vote. If you cannot be present to enter yours than you shall not enter it. If the taxpayer is the source of your salary, than you ought to be doing your job; being present to vote on issues that are of importance, instead of giving your colleagues the opportunity to grant themselves an additional vote.

If it isn't rule or law, it should be.