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Forum Post: Disagreement is Slowly Being Purged From This Site

Posted 2 years ago on Oct. 29, 2011, 7:07 p.m. EST by Tryagain (300)
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Sure, what better way to pretend you're the 99% than to eliminate posts of those that disagree.

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[-] 10 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

I don't mind disagreement. I just get sick of righties trying to dominate the front page and distract from debate with childish post.

What is even worse is when they whine and pretend to be victims that need to be coddled.

You guys are transparent and you are a tool that makes people want to protests

If you want to change public opinion join a mature debate and show people the error of their ways. They might see your point and change their view.

Keep doing what you are doing and know this. You are making the 1% more of an enemy

[-] 1 points by Pfletch83 (40) 2 years ago

So you want to continue the divide instead of unite people in a way that will bring about positive change for all?

I'm a republican but I'm not a "Rightie" you're a Democrat but I won't call you a "lefty" there is no "Left vs Right" it is about free humanity vs the establishment.

The Establishment controls (for the most part) both parties,the Establishment wants us to be divided so it can more easily rule over all of us,because as long as people on the "Left" try to shout over the people on the "Right" we will keep fighting amongst ourselves instead of going after the real power structure.

I'm on the side of Free Humanity because I want the founding documents of this country to be followed as they were intended to be.

Like I've said before I am on the side of Free Humanity,what about you?

[-] 2 points by blocade (81) 2 years ago

We are here and we want to build a true democracy and freedom, we have a new world constitution and once we all decide to honor it we will have started to create a truly civilized world.

http://wesower.org - spread the word and we will build heaven on earth.

[-] -1 points by Rob (881) 2 years ago

You are an idiot. True democracy? You actually want majority rule? New World Constitution? You do know there are a whole lot of countries that will not go along with that idea, right? please engage your brain before posting.

[-] 1 points by blocade (81) 2 years ago

countries are nothing but people and like the US most are currently clueless and powerless. We don't need any existing government to help us. We are connecting across the globe and we will boycott capitalism.

We are building heaven on earth, if your only fear is that you think people you don't know won't want to work toward world peace then that is your failure. Stand against even the idea of trying to build heaven on earth and you would have revealed your evil.

[-] 0 points by Rob (881) 2 years ago

you do know that the North Koreans believe Kim Jung-IL is God, right? There is one country that will not be behind you. BTW, you are doing an awful job of boycotting capitalism.

[-] 1 points by blocade (81) 2 years ago

And Americans worship guns, jewelry and a bunch of other useless junk. Capitalism is already destroying itself. no jobs means we need to purchase more, in order to purchase more we need cheaper goods, in order to make goods cheaper we need to oppress or enslave others (root of capitalism and why it was even able to work) or develop technology to help make goods cheaper which then put people out of work, and then they simply cannot afford any goods. in either case, capitalism is a failure, the fact that oil and big pharma actually write our policy instead of our elected officials is a further illustration of a joke of a political system and process.

wake up, YOU are doing a awful job of preserving capitalism, where are we now??

we are going to build heaven on earth and your opposition reveals your evil

[-] 0 points by Rob (881) 2 years ago

What are you using to make these posts and how was it made possible?

[-] 1 points by blocade (81) 2 years ago

what does that have to do with anything? (you) "oh capitalism gave us the internet (actually product of war) so i guess let's keep that, yeah, jesus, we're good people, let's go to church and then go out and murder some deer afterwards."

us - "let's work together toward building a true global democracy and bring about world peace"

you - never! <--- you are evil - you kind of ignorance will not exist in our new world.

[-] 0 points by Rob (881) 2 years ago

Would you be willing to kill me if I do not subscribe to your philosophy?

[-] 1 points by blocade (81) 2 years ago

no, we don't believe in killing people, eventually you will have to join us in a peaceful world, it will get quite lonely in your crowd of hopeful oppressors clinging to a primitive and failed capitalist system.

You could start over again and put together your army of christians and go out and enslave some peaceful people to help rebuild capitalism the way it originally started. pretty sure THEY will kill you though.

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

You actually want majority rule?

YES compared to being "ruled" by the minority as we have today!

“The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history - whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by the small elite." - Thomas Jefferson

http://www.osixs.org/Rev2_menu_commonsense.aspx

[-] -1 points by Rob (881) 2 years ago

We have a representative government. Please look at history and it will show many of the laws we have today were not at all popular with the majority. Women's right to vote-never would have happened. Roe v Wade, not on the books. Blacks right to vote, nope. Segregation?, would still e happening. Majority rule is mob rule. Thomas Jefferson knew that.

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

We have a representative government now that doesn't represent the people. It's broken. It doesn't work. It's corrupt! It represents the 1%. You have no way of knowing that the civil rights that we gained would not have occurred sooner under majority rule. The term "mob rule" has been coined by the elite. I would much rather have "mob rule" than a dictatorship or fascism, which is where we're headed now.

Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty

[-] 0 points by Rob (881) 2 years ago

What if the majority said you should die because you are an idiot, would that be cool with you?

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

Given the choice - I would put my faith in the 99% vs. the 1%. Only the 1% would want you dead for being an idiot.

[-] 0 points by Rob (881) 2 years ago

it only takes 50% +1 to make a majority. You just might choose to live in the wrong town.

[-] 2 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

I'm with you on that. But when you assume I am a democrat you are wrong

I vote for whoever I think will do the will of the working people of America

I am on the same side as OWS people

I only called these people righties because in other forums on other sites people like them spew and parrot the same crap as is being post here

You are correct I should not stereotype, but sometimes I just have to call it like I see it. And yes, I am wrong often enough that I shouldn’t do it.

[-] 1 points by Pfletch83 (40) 2 years ago

You do know that I meant that as an example don't you?

But we both want to see justice for the people correct?

Not just lip service but action on behalf of our grievances right?

Then why not help eachother out.

The finer points can be argued,but with the bigger picture we need to go after the power structure.

Not violently but in as peaceful a manner as possible.

[-] 1 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

Don't be naïve there are many people trying block communication and hamper the OWS.

When you try to work with somebody that only pretends to work with you, you just make a fool of you self

In the real world if it quacks like a duck it is a duck. Don’t be suckered. Just spend a couple of days watching (not posting) taking notes. You will begin to notice the people that work together to disrupt. They never post on a forum that they don’t want people to see. It has nothing to do with debate. They will in turn post on meaningless junk and their buddies will pile on. The post worth debating disappears after two or three minutes never to return. And the junk forum just keeps cycling over and over. Look at the names of the people that do this. Often the names change but the players and the game is the same

Then when they get called on it, they pretend to be victims

Don’t expect me to not call these people what they are.

[-] 1 points by HappyLove (143) 2 years ago

You're not being blocked, childish posters who are swearing are.

[-] 0 points by Philpux (643) from Mountain View, AR 2 years ago

Apparently debate is not allowed in this forum.

[-] 1 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

Please explain how you arrived at that conclusion

[-] 1 points by Philpux (643) from Mountain View, AR 2 years ago

I have been censored on this forum, as well as in the LiveStream chats for suggesting that the moderators might be too heavy handed in dealing with questions, and certain discussions. Many others have experienced this as well.

[-] 1 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

Can you reply with some examples?

I have seen tons of what I call crap and disinformation and it don't get deleted.

I have often asked myself what I would have to say to get censored

I don’t know if you have noticed but there are rules now. They are at the top of the forums

[-] 1 points by Philpux (643) from Mountain View, AR 2 years ago

Try criticizing the moderators for deleting reasonable people's posts, here or especially in the chats for the LiveStreams. I was banned from LiveStream chat in both GlobalRevolution, and NYC for trying to discern what the plan was for cold weather. I had a post that criticized those mods deleted from here three times. No profanity, and no mention of politicians were in that post. It seems to be better now. Maybe they have gotten the message that unreasonable censorship is not cool.

[-] 0 points by mediaauditr (-88) 2 years ago

Why does OWS have to be right or left? Repub or dem? Why can't it just be people?

[-] 1 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

Ask that same question to the right winged media.

Their goal is to keep America divided (my opinion)

I am not a lefty or righty. I am a free thinker. both side have the points

[-] 0 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

The claim to represent 99% is a wild exaggeration. Come on, take at look at the campers and tell me they're "delegates" of the 99%. LOL.

[-] 1 points by OneVoice (153) 2 years ago

Tryagain, I have worked the same job for almost 30 years. I also am self employed with a part time job. I just completed over 24 hrs. of overtime this past week. I never filed for any kind of bankruptcy. I'm a fiscal conservative. I don't support the globalization of our workforce without job protections. I don't support tax incentives to corporations that ship jobs oversees to take advantage of a cheap labor market. I don't support Too Big to Fail policies. I don't support our two party system that is far too influenced by corporate money and has drifted away from any resemblance of a democracy. The "campers" you bestowed this title upon are in fact my delegates for a democratic process. I'm old enough to understand that politicians and the wealthy monied elite are worried about only one thing and that is Election Day. These "campers" may just be the beginning of a legit third party system. That "lol" could just be a nervous laugh

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[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 2 years ago

Your first sentence doesn't match with the following ones.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Your list of behaviors is pretty good. Consider, such behavior is not reasonable, nor can it be shown to be so. Consider a question, what is it then? Therein is the capacity to recognize that so many of such poster is PURELY unnatural. They are working to interfere with cognition upon valid methods to create change.--

http://politics.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

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[-] 2 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

A least they arent as bad as those liberals, eh MikeyD

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[-] 3 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

Come on now MikeD you know you tend to spin things. I didn’t say that at all.

You have just entered the lying stage. What’s next, the “name calling stage”?. I know you don’t dare walk away from this, your groupies are watching. Come on what do you got. You can make up something

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[-] 2 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

What? Am I the one who generalized a whole political ideology with a broad brush? (Must have been you MIkeD 'cause it wasn't me)

This is what I said "I don't mind disagreement. I just get sick of righties trying to dominate the front page and distract from debate with childish post.

What is even worse is when they whine and pretend to be victims that need to be coddled"

I said that and I meant just that. If you have a problem with that then address it here and now straight forward, but don’t try to demonize me by twisting into something you want it to be. I have called you guys on your bullshit and you don’t like it so you try to redefine it.

If you are for open debate as, you claim then you should agree with my opinion. How about you taking my words and use “lefty” instead of “righty”, I would feel the same way toward them.

We want debate, not a bunch of game playing

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[-] 1 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

Thank you, It is very obvious that you are "RIGHT"

I hope I didn't hurt those little feelers, I was just playing devils advocate

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[-] 1 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

Hey MikeD, I'm up here now

Is all this debating making your nipples hard

Seriously I have to go. It was fun!

[-] 1 points by Democracydriven (658) 2 years ago

I knew I could get you to call me names

That's the sign of a defeated righty

Just my $.02

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[-] 2 points by debndan (1145) 2 years ago

Ignore MikeyD. he's a troll, he spews things he doesn't believe, so that he can discredit people on the left with a caricature. But he only does that when his parents aren't around.

[-] 2 points by jph (2652) 2 years ago

to what do you disagree with?

taking the wheel from the dipsht asshats that have been driving this ship? LOL,. you saying you like the direction of the unfolding?

[-] 0 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

I dunno, just stuff like how free will continues to exist, borrowing money is a choice, that no one is stopping you from changing banks, and that more poverty and inequality has been caused by drop outs, baby mamas and an open border than anything any higher income person ever did. You know, only obvious stuff like that.

[-] 1 points by jph (2652) 2 years ago

free will will always exist,. only your fear and child like greed keeps you afraid of the future.

"borrowing money is a choice" no one would choose to borrowing money,. people do so because that is the only option in this banker run system,. should be no surprise really,. people borrowing money is not what caused this house of cards pyramid scam of a monetary/banking system to fail,.. banker/corporate greed did this.

"that no one is stopping you from changing banks" what lack of understanding you exhibit for all to see,. changing banks, that is your solution? really,. that all you got?

"more poverty and inequality has been caused by drop outs, baby mamas and an open border than anything any higher income person ever did." what a bunch of AM talk radio talking points,. wow nothing original?

Dude,. get a clue! come back when you have any idea of what is going on., read something ANYTHING! books are not your enemy,. I mean damn!

[-] 1 points by independentmind (227) 2 years ago

I disagree. You don't "have" to borrow money. It is a choice. I was 37 before I bought my 1st house. Was 34 before I assumed a car payment or a credit card. I didn't want to be in debt. I waited for a long time, for a stable job, for a decent income before I took on any debt. And it was my choice to do so.

If everyone took their money out of Bank of America... and got their loans from the credit unions they join after... Bank of America would tank. Plain and simple. Banks aren't banks without your money in their vaults.

Now. All that said. OWS should be ODC. And it should start screaming at the politicians who wrote the laws that have allowed big businesses to operate in such a dirty way legally.

But none of you OWS folks want to hear that. You'd rather throw paper airplanes at banks.

Cus that's MUCH more effective than taking all the money out of it.

Please.

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

No one would choose to borrow money? Huh? Debt is voluntary unless you're under some special hypnosis. Free will exists, honest. Too much debt is EXACTLY what caused our problems. That goes right down the guy that used his credit card for a cruise. Now, everyone is trying to fix their finances at the same time and that's hurting end demand. Try not borrowing for a a year. See if the world stops spinning.

If you don't like your bank, quit peeing your pants and change banks already. You have countless choices in the system that OWSers hate.

No, nope nothing original, just the same old obvious stuff that liberals still ignore. Choices matter... radical stuff for liberals to hear.

Enjoy your camping. Maybe you can make a snowman.

[-] 1 points by socceronly (102) 2 years ago

So you think the forum would be useful if it were full of:

Jewish Conspiracy Theories Ranting Crap False and damaging claims Intentionally disruptive people . . . .

Every forum moderates. I would like to see how long the sensible people were would last on any right oriented forum. The tolerance here is way higher.

[-] 1 points by GeorgeMichaelBluth (402) from Arlington, VA 2 years ago

Yeah I agree too many left wing nuts!

[-] 1 points by EndGluttony (507) 2 years ago

Many of those that "disagree," meaning the movement is a threat to their own self-interest, come here to spread lies and make false accusations in an attempt to distract people from the truth.

[-] 1 points by sassafrass (197) 2 years ago

I think they're also trying to incite violence, the ones who say the most hateful snot-nose crap like they're begging for a punch in the mouth. It's designed to make us so angry we lose our cool and start behaving out of emotion. Tempting trap (I've fallen into it plenty), but we should be trying harder to resist it. Occasionally, though, telling one of them off makes for a good venting.

[-] 1 points by Idaltu (662) 2 years ago

I also don't mind debate. But there is no reason for name calling such as 'you're an idiot' etc. If people would just state their case without slamming the other person there would be a lot less culling of posts. Some of the posters seemed incapable of presenting their views without making some derogatory remark but the other person.

[-] 1 points by shreepal (9) 2 years ago

by all accounts, there are also paid intellegence people here on this forum who get drowned and purged posts that suggest alternatives to the present corporate-government coalition. One such purged post was "let us look to our future - let us adopt direct democracy". You will see, this post (and re-post of the purged one) will also be purged.

[-] 1 points by HPolloi (74) 2 years ago

What are you trolling on about?

[-] 1 points by angelofmercy (225) 2 years ago

Noticed that as well. It's ok for them to have free speech , but not you if you disagree with them.

Here is an idea , if you disagree with them. Protest the Protesters! :P

[-] 1 points by Philpux (643) from Mountain View, AR 2 years ago

Yeah, no doubt. Turns out, I am a "concern troll." Apparently a "troll" is defined as someone that has a criticism, and a "concern troll" is defined as someone who claims to care, but has a criticism. lol Well, by that definition, I suppose I really am a "concern troll." My problem, is that I really do care. Otherwise, I would just go.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

there is a difference between mere disagreement and trolling. trolling SHOULD be removed.

[-] 1 points by moediggity (646) from Houston, TX 2 years ago

I find it ironic that this post is here while theres several troll posts on the front here. Get this,your so called "freedom" is forfeit when you start threads with things like "stupid worthless liberals" "stupid""hippies""I hope you all get murdered""entitlement""liberal" amongst many other things.Personally,I don't give a shit about you or the trolls. The last I checked we didn't make this forum for you so your so called "freedom" is irrelevant. Go back to freerepublic.com where your kind is more welcome. I don't remember this forum being made so people with no ideas or no conscience could come here and belittle others. I'm for a total crackdown on people like you.

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

Like your right to camp on other people's properties or to squat in parks and break the rules.

[-] 1 points by moediggity (646) from Houston, TX 2 years ago

You never cared about any of that until you seen someone you didn't like there so why should I care about them squatting in a park?

[-] 1 points by debndan (1145) 2 years ago

I haven't seen ANY posts eliminated from this site. Though there have been a few on both extremes that probably shoulda been. There have been a few neocons that post sick and insulting things, and some on the left as well.

So, if any have, I could only imagine how far they went....

[-] 1 points by NeoSolomon (14) 2 years ago

As long as comments are civil, there's no problem with disagreement. No one is going to agree with you or me 100%. It's not about divide and conquer nor absolute right or wrong. It's about building consensus on issues and everyone will have to give and take. However, the forum needs to be a discussion, not a shouting match. Go watch Fox News and O'Reilly if you want shouting matches, that type of media is produced for dramatics.

[-] 1 points by rickMoss (435) 2 years ago

Well then I must disagree. We need to see bad and stupid ideas. It's the American way. Now enough of the chit-chat. We need a real revolution, but it has to be a smart revolution. Not the old stuff.

FIGHT THE CAUSE - NOT THE SYMPTOM Read “Common Sense 3.1” at ( www.revolution2.osixs.org )

[-] 1 points by Teacher (469) 2 years ago

Like your post????????? Still here.

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

On and off.

[-] 1 points by StevenRoyal (490) from Dania Beach, FL 2 years ago

The "posts are being removed by the moderators who require everyone to agree" BS is basically a strawman argument. This forum is NOT moderated. I have posted some pretty outlandish things and NONE have been removed. Just challenge them to give the general time/date of their "posts" and the general content of it. Be sure to bookmark the page and return every few days to ask them why their post still has not been removed. It tends to annoy them.

[-] 1 points by Anthony1111 (-11) from Belleville, NJ 2 years ago

This is an emergency Notice to all members of occupy James Damiano the very person who's been for over twelve years fighting the law firm that represents goldman sachs has been banned from this forum. Mr. Damiano is probably one of the most knowledgeable members and has contributed a wealth of information pertaining to the issues at hand in the Occupy forum

For more information e-mail thestealing@gmail.com or see http://wikileaksyola.yolasite.com/

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[-] 1 points by seymoure (0) 2 years ago

Dear Voter

With an election coming up please support efforts to pass the Disclose Act.HR 5175 This bill would require corporations, unions and nonprofit groups to disclose their top five donors if they participate in political activity and to agree to other disclosures in connection with expenditures prior to elections. The bill and a similar measure in the Senate are aimed at countering a Supreme Court ruling that unleashed unlimited political spending by corporations.

[-] 1 points by AndrewTeaNation (5) from Secaucus, NJ 2 years ago

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.

[-] 1 points by RobertNDavis (133) 2 years ago

You don't know what "Socialism" is. I'll make this fun for you. Tell me if this describes a Socialist state or a Democracy:

"Citizens educate themselves on the issues and participate in government by voting. Public services (law enforcement, firefighting, etc) are run by the government while private services and manufacturing are run by private interests that are responsible for following the rule of law and acting within regulations in place (as a result of legislation being proposed and people making a vote) to protect the populace from predatory corporate behaviors."

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

Well said.

[-] 1 points by christy1043 (-1) from Colts Neck, NJ 2 years ago

This is an emergency Notice to all members of occupy James Damiano the very person who's been for over twelve years fighting the law firm that represents goldman sachs has been banned from this forum. Mr. Damiano is probably one of the most knowledgeable members and has contributed a wealth of information pertaining to the issues at hand in the Occupy forum

For more information e-mail thestealing@gmail.com or see http://wikileaksyola.yolasite.com/

[-] 1 points by christy1043 (-1) from Colts Neck, NJ 2 years ago

Attention All Members

This is an Emergency Notice to all members of occupy James Damiano the very person who's been for over twelve years fighting the law firm that represents Goldman Sachs has been banned from this forum. Mr. Damiano is probably one of the most knowledgeable members and has contributed a wealth of information pertaining to the issues at hand in the Occupy forum

[-] 1 points by christy1043 (-1) from Colts Neck, NJ 2 years ago

Attention All Members

This is an Emergency Notice to all members of occupy James Damiano the very person who's been for over twelve years fighting the law firm that represents Goldman Sachs has been banned from this forum. Mr. Damiano is probably one of the most knowledgeable members and has contributed a wealth of information pertaining to the issues at hand in the Occupy forum

For more information e-mail thestealing@gmail.com or see http://wikileaksyola.yolasite.com/

[-] 1 points by qazxsw123 (238) 2 years ago

Most of us are the 99 percent. If only we would stop wanting to be part of the 1 percent, that would be a huge step.

Deep down: what is it we all want?

I think the answer is 'enough'

so: define 'enough'

It appears that the original Benjamin Franklin's phrase "and the pursuit of happiness," was actually "and the pursuit of property" as in things, wives and kids (and slaves?) and I think this is where it went all wrong. At least "the pursuit of property" is honest.

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

But that's independent thinking. People should feel free to live according to their values and desires and to cut a different path from what's sold to you. It's good to understand that you have free will and that, for example, borrowing money is a choice. Bravo, I applaud that. I think that is a route to a good life.

But now for the rules. That life isn't to funded by your neighbors via transfer payments and you too have responsibility for helping to fund public institutions if you want to call yourself a member of our society.

But this is most certainly not the core of what OWS has been talking about.

[-] 1 points by occupysurvey (6) 2 years ago

If you want to say what you think is most important in this movement, go here ... http://goo.gl/NuCTF ... to make your voice heard.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

consensus is sought

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

There is consensus, and it's not anything the OWS moonbats are talking about.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

those moon bats are my friends

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

They need friends. I can't imagine too many of them functioning on their own.

[-] 1 points by barb (835) 2 years ago

If you defend any politician you are either uneducated or completely blind to the problems.

[-] 1 points by barb (835) 2 years ago

How about we abstain from using labels to address people such as republicans, democrats, liberals, etc, this only divides us and gets us no where.

[-] 1 points by GeorgeMichaelBluth (402) from Arlington, VA 2 years ago

Agree. Had several taken down.

[-] 1 points by henoktg (66) 2 years ago

Post about debt free money and see what will happen.

[-] 1 points by Philpux (643) from Mountain View, AR 2 years ago

Right. My perfectly legitimate conversation was deleted three times.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

I have seen any posts deleted

[-] 1 points by dv8 (25) 2 years ago

Try posting asking for transparency on the financial statements that were promised weeks ago. Try asking about anything controversial - like "justine", feeding the homeless.....

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

I've made several of those posts

[-] 1 points by dv8 (25) 2 years ago

Apologies if I offended. I've had a few posts go MIA. So very curious on the policy here.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

posts are lost on the waterfall of this forum

save anything important elsewhere

[-] 1 points by JeffCallahan (216) 2 years ago

Stop blaming the politicians they just do what they are told. Politicians have no power this country is run by large corporations, and big banking. If you want change write to them.

[-] 1 points by Redmist (212) from Yazd, Yazd 2 years ago

I dont agree, I have written alot of comment that are not popular with the OWS protesters and my comments are all still up. I think they have been beyond accepting of all opinions.

[-] 1 points by Timalmighty (29) 2 years ago

OWS isnt a Gov't entity. WTF Its irrelevent if OWS can't handle the truth within its own autonomy as a movement. OWS isn't trying to be a NWO. This whole post in itself is so narrow that it screams the author has the same intellectual capacity.....lolz

[-] 1 points by washingtanon (1) 2 years ago

You are free to make your own organization and website that broadcasts your ideals. Not all online forums are for debating issues and thoughts FYI

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

You're free to build your own parks.

[-] 1 points by Shalimar (167) from Martinsville, IN 2 years ago

Here's the deal. When you play in someone else's sandbox you have to play by their rules. If you don't like it play in your own sandbox.

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

You mean like the protesters squatting in that park?

[-] 1 points by Timalmighty (29) 2 years ago

They're not squatting....the "O" is for occupying. We should have a OWS 101 seminar....lol :o)

[-] 1 points by Shalimar (167) from Martinsville, IN 2 years ago

The owner is letting them in that park so it's not squatting.

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

Explain the rest of the cities.

[-] 1 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 2 years ago

No Regulations for Wall St. But Tons of Billionaire Bloomberg's Regulations for Main St. 99%'ers

FALSE PRETEXT & CRIMINAL THEFT

From CNN: On Friday, up to 40 firefighters removed the group's propane tanks and six generators, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. That left the demonstrators to battle the cold weather seeping through their tents, blankets and sleeping bags.

FALSE PRETEXT: "These are fire hazards (and) against the law," Bloomberg said during his weekly WOR-AM radio show Friday. "Our first concern is safety." Demonstrators described the removal as an attempt to restrict Internet use and make their lives more difficult as a cold front moves into the region.

Yep, the 1% Bloomberger regulates you, ""These are ... against the law," but Wall St. has fewer regulations.

Reality: Billionaire Bloomberg's first concern is to squelch and trod on the 99%. Governments have always used the pretext of "Public Safety" to subjugate the people. Government claims to know what is best for you. Don't you think you know better what is good for you?

Please Call Billionaire Mayor Bloomberg that you disagree with his false pretext to crush the 99%.

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg City Hall New York, NY 10007 PHONE 311 (or 212-NEW-YORK outside NYC)

FAX (212) 312-0700

E-MAIL: http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mayor.html

[-] 1 points by demonstrator (167) 2 years ago

interesting

[-] 1 points by Timalmighty (29) 2 years ago

Ah gee, do ya think!..... being this is a SUPPORT OWS SITE.....go figure these OWS Forum Dictators....lmao

It an egregious attack from "The Man"...lolz

Hey they did let you post this long enough for me to get a laugh.....hahahaha!

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 2 years ago

I have my disagreements with the affinity group that publishes this website's rules. I happen to believe that governments do often lie and work in conspiratorial ways, The publishers of this website ban such discussion. The fact is this website is the product of their initiative and labor (and probably some cash too) and they can run it as they see fit to do. One has options in this world. You can publish your own blog (without even needing to put up cash) or post your comments to all manner of websites and blogs.

[-] 0 points by JesuitOrder (53) 2 years ago

This content is user submitted and not an official statement

[-] 0 points by JesuitOrder (53) 2 years ago

Censors hard at work !!!!

This is worst than Godlike Productions !!

[-] 0 points by JesuitOrder (53) 2 years ago

I love censorship !!!

[-] 0 points by JesuitOrder (53) 2 years ago

Hello censors ! Its hard work censoring free thinkers isnt it ?

[-] 0 points by JesuitOrder (53) 2 years ago

Where is my previous comment ??

[-] 0 points by Anthony1111 (-11) from Belleville, NJ 2 years ago

This is an emergency Notice to all members of occupy James Damiano the very person who's been for over twelve years fighting the law firm that represents goldman sachs has been banned from this forum. Mr. Damiano is probably one of the most knowledgeable members and has contributed a wealth of information pertaining to the issues at hand in the Occupy forum

For more information e-mail thestealing@gmail.com or see http://wikileaksyola.yolasite.com/

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[-] 0 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 2 years ago

We can not insist on freedom of speech to congregate in the parks, if we can not practice it here where we also congregate.

[-] 0 points by number2 (914) 2 years ago

I agree censorship is misguided. In this country we tolerate much worse from the KKK and Nazi's.

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[-] 1 points by number2 (914) 2 years ago

look again

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

But when you're going to claim you're the 99%, so many taking the other side undercuts the propaganda and has to be stopped.

[-] 0 points by qazxsw123 (238) 2 years ago

I think you're overstating "People should feel free to live according to their values and desires," because as a human being historically/geographically and culturally grounded in one's own time/space/culture, it is almost impossible to have different values and desires. We are what/where we come from. Indeed, the very idea of being contrarian to one's time/place means that you have to have something to be against. So, let's be realistic, and at least, make a determination of what the limits and restraints are and how we can live within them provided they are not man-made and arbitrary. For example, I agree to be fined if I choose to be yelling 'fire' in a crowded cinema, when there is no fire, but disagree to be taken for a fool when Wall Street/corporations/Congress/President conspire to take advantage of us, the people.

[-] 2 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

Free will still exists. Debt is a choice. The TV still takes you to turn it on. What you buy, you bought, not someone else. People have a giant amount of freedom.

[-] 1 points by qazxsw123 (238) 2 years ago

I don't think so. I think it is arrogance to think they do. To a point, you can choose to be/come aware, and slow down/use cautiousness. But in order for the system to work, everyone must be co-opted. I choose not to have cable, but I still have to have Internet and cell phone (for, say, security); I need to use banks, norms and rituals to get a job. My news is what people choose to tell me. The airwaves belong to the people, but are selected by the government bought by corporations, and so on and so forth.

My point is that we cannot escape the fact that we are born here and now.

[-] 1 points by qazxsw123 (238) 2 years ago

OK, so how do you go about it? Millions demonstrate against the Iraq war, and the Iraq war still takes place; you vote OBM in power, because he promises to end the war, and he increases it. What do you do? You follow the rules and go to school, and go into debt, and get a degree, and you end up with no work? Tell me: how wide is the envelope?

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

Well sure, we all live in a context and to live utterly upside down from the context isn't workable. Now I think I get your point. But that still leaves a very wide envelope of lives to reasonably lead.

[-] 0 points by SirPoeticJustice (628) from New York, NY 2 years ago

The RAPE of the PEOPLE by their government !!!

People are fucking stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid.!!!!!!!!

You have to understand that. it is nothing against them. They are just IGNORANT.

1)

The list of largest corporations only includes the LEGAL companies. What about all the ILLEGAL corporations That have TRILLIONS of dollars. Enough money to have their own subs they run from south america to the United States full of drugs. What about the Mafia, Yakuza? What about other black market corporations that do human trafficking, one of the largest industries in the world. The market for sex slaves is number 3 largest industry in the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck your petty problems and UNITE to get the nation on track. We need to put the CROOKS IN JAIL NOW.

2)

You are missing the big picture. This nation is no longer a nation of citizens. IT IS A NATION OF SPECIAL INTERESTS COMPRISED MAINLY OF CORPORATIONS. All sides of a debate represent a corporations agenda. Our pure ideals get co-opted the moment we Begin strategizing how to move forward. You are naive as hell if you think this whole thing wasn't designed to be an answer to the Tea Party. Obama gave wall street everything they wanted his first term in the form of the bailouts and representation in government. He asked for bipartisan effort. They scoffed and laughed in his face when he attempted to raise taxes on the (((1%))). So Obama and his cronies came up with the idea OCCUPY WALL STREET. Here is the important thing - CUT AND PASTE THIS AND KEEP RE-POSTING IT. Get the truth out there for the truth's sake. I like Obama, may even vote for him again. This is not about what party you are with. this is about the truth!

With the technology of the day, Howard Hughes' company along with mafia interests, managed to imprison him in his own house, and collude to take over all of his assets. WITH THE TECHNOLOGY OF TODAY, why do you think only men WHO HAVE FAMILIES can become president? THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT NEED TO BE ABLE TO 'MOTIVATE' THE PRESIDENT. The WHITE HOUSE IS A PRISON. EVEN if OBAMA WANTED to do the right thing, HE CANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

Really, now it's rape? Seriously, it's time to, I dunno, quit coffee or meth or maybe just quit the brainwashing chanting.

[-] 1 points by SirPoeticJustice (628) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Or perhaps, QUIT being so naive!!!!!

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

Maybe if you were raped yourself, you'd be able to understand how dumb you sound. Ease off on the stimulants, learn how to breathe, and stop talking like a crazy person.

[-] 1 points by SirPoeticJustice (628) from New York, NY 2 years ago

So I guess Sun Tzu, The greatest military strategist of all time, who is assigned reading in every Ivy League MBA program, is a CRAZY PERSON TOO HUH, Because that is where I get most of my stuff, directly from the master.

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

Ok, but try reading that and then NOT drinking the 6 Redbulls.

[-] 1 points by SirPoeticJustice (628) from New York, NY 2 years ago

LOL - point taken

[-] 0 points by AndrewTeaNation (5) from Secaucus, NJ 2 years ago

I hope you dumb asses freeze to death this winter.

-God Bless America

[-] 0 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

Gosh there seems to be a lot of people not in the 99%. LOL.

[-] 0 points by christy1043 (-1) from Colts Neck, NJ 2 years ago

This is an emergency Notice to all members of occupy James Damiano the very person who's been for over twelve years fighting the law firm that represents goldman sachs has been banned from this forum. Mr. Damiano is probably one of the most knowledgeable members and has contributed a wealth of information pertaining to the issues at hand in the Occupy forum

For more information e-mail thestealing@gmail.com or see http://wikileaksyola.yolasite.com/

[-] 0 points by christy1043 (-1) from Colts Neck, NJ 2 years ago

Attention All Members

This is an Emergency Notice to all members of occupy James Damiano the very person who's been for over twelve years fighting the law firm that represents Goldman Sachs has been banned from this forum. Mr. Damiano is probably one of the most knowledgeable members and has contributed a wealth of information pertaining to the issues at hand in the Occupy forum

[-] 0 points by christy1043 (-1) from Colts Neck, NJ 2 years ago

Attention All Members

This is an Emergency Notice to all members of occupy James Damiano the very person who's been for over twelve years fighting the law firm that represents Goldman Sachs has been banned from this forum. Mr. Damiano is probably one of the most knowledgeable members and has contributed a wealth of information pertaining to the issues at hand in the Occupy forum

For more information e-mail thestealing@gmail.com or see http://wikileaksyola.yolasite.com/

[-] 0 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 2 years ago

Yes, a lot of my messages are simply deleted immediately. More of them lately. And at least one entire thread that I posted was not deleted, but censored from showing in the main thread index on the "forum" page.

Censoring dissenting opinions doesn't really surprise or bother me, but I see it as a sign of hypocrisy, coming from an 'all-inclusive' movement.

[-] 0 points by PolkaDot (121) from Manhasset, NY 2 years ago

Welcome to my world.

:)

[-] 0 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

You can't pretend to be the 99% AND allow this much disagreement to be seen.

[-] 0 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 2 years ago

True, but the sad thng is that I originally came here as a potential supporter. This site and the people on it are a big part of what turned me off on the whole thing. And that was even before they started just deleting my posts.

[-] 1 points by independentmind (227) 2 years ago

Me too. I came here thinking I knew what this was all about.

But as I read more and more, I became more and more confused, saw more and more things that do not represent me at all... and I started asking questions.

things like: why isn't aiming this energy at politicians who write the laws even on the table as an option.

things like: wanting clarification on the 1%... I, personally, have no issue with the Steve Jobs of the world who created a product we wanted and the market set the price.

things like: is this a socialist movement... cuz I might be liberal, but I'm not down with socialism.

I was attacked. And not with fact, but with double talk and rhetoric.

As best I can tell, my posts still exists... but I will go dig a little deeper to see if they all do or not.

Doesn't matter. This movement isn't going anywhere at this rate. The more special interests they pick up, the more people they alienate. Their fragmentation will be their doom... and none of them are willing to step back for a moment and see it. They're all so "it's your movement" that they don't see anything... and the fact is, it's not my movement. My voice is dismissed as FUD... something aiming to divide the movement... when, in all reality, focusing on DC only would actually solidify it.

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 2 years ago

Your story sounds exactly like mine. Exactly. Here is a post that I wrote about focusing all fo the energy on the political process, back before I realized what was really going on:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/vote-or-else-this-will-all-be-a-pointless-exercise/

What's really going on is that the people camping out in the park really, truly believe that they're building a sovereign, all-inclusive utopia, governed by direct democracy. Sad but true.

[-] 1 points by independentmind (227) 2 years ago

Excellent post. I actually got frustrated enough with one of these nutters that I asked him, in italic print "do you even understand how democracy works??"

It goes beyond voting even. I live in NYS where I sat up one night and watched tried and true conservatives admit they changed their minds and voted yes to gay marriage because "their constituents demanded it".

If we were to start flooding emails today, and we were very public about it... reform would be put on the table in the houses. They would all know their jobs are on the line... immediately. Rather than keeping their fingers crossed while votes are tallied.

Bottom line is, though: this is not the forum for that. I have not talked with one Occupier who is even willing to discuss this.

[-] 0 points by sdcheung (76) 2 years ago

Thank God. No more moronic Posts from shitty 1%'ers.

[-] 0 points by Freemarket (26) 2 years ago

Not only were my posts deleted, but my entire screen name was deleted. I had to create a new one. So much for diversity of thought.

[-] 0 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 2 years ago

Maybe that's because your a disruptive fascist troll?

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

We're just not so willing to join your drone chanting. You're the 10% that's always been maladapted and wanted socialism all along.

[-] 1 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 2 years ago

Socialism? No that's what the rich have. We just want a level playing field again.

[-] 2 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

While defaulting on your debts, increasing transfer payments, and chanting in unison in a really creepy way.

[-] 0 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 2 years ago

Its a start. When you consider the sheer level of criminality the banksters and their 1% owners prefer to be allowed to get away with though its just a start.

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

A start to what? Criminality? Really, was their "criminality" involved in the debts you have? Be careful, I wrote criminality, not just stupidity on your part. Truly, they aren't the same thing.

[-] 0 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 2 years ago

No, I mean criminality on the banks and mortgage companies part. During the S& L crime spree 1,600 banksters and others went to jail , this time nobody has gone to jail. Why? because between then and now the perps have bought the political and Justice systems wholesale.

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

But a lot of borrowers did this too. It was a time when debt was seen as making people's lives better. Housing prices went up up up. Lenders AND borrowers walked up their risk taking. It was a bubble and now it's over-with and we're mopping up.

[-] 0 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 2 years ago

mopping up? Oh yea, I see how that's working out. The banks that pushed these LIAR loans are now getting their paid for shills in DC and the States to make sure not only do they get to keep their ill gotten gains but they also get to foreclose and take millions of homes as well, most of the time without even having a title. It was FRAUD from the top to the bottom. Yet, nobody loses but the people defrauded? Sickening that you folks have no morals or ethics or consciences. Your a pack of weasals that need to be caught and put in a friggin cage.

[-] 2 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

You lack an understanding of what happened. We had a prolonged period of stability that emboldened people to walk up their risks. The country would've been better off had the 2000 recession been deeper. Lessons are an important limiter of excess. We lacked those lessons in too many people's minds. By 2006, with no downside experienced for being in debt, the idea that debt was good was in full tilt swing. Our govt pushed debt too seeing debt denial as somehow taking away a route to a better life. Credit for everyone!

Fraud was a part of it. Liars loans existed. Underwriters and borrowers both lied out of greed; I think that's fair.

But that's just part of what happened. We're in a problem because of pervasive debt, not just that debt. Home equity lines, huge student loans, car loans, credit card loans, tiny savings accounts because of spending... it all reduced resilience and made this downturn worse.

Now everyone is recovering from their hangovers and reducing debts. That's hurt end demand and is causing the economy to only very slowly recover.

[-] 1 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 2 years ago

Its all because starting in the mid-70's the average person's wages and salaries essentially flat lined for the 1st time in 200 yrs. of American history. All productive gains since back then have ended up in the hands of an increasingly tiny group at the top of the pyramid. The American dream ended after Nixon was driven from office. The deal was cut with the Chinese and away went the jobs and our manufacturing base. We increasingly have become a country of fraudster/banksters , mortgage goons, Ins. thieves, lawyers and other cons , pols, cheats and criminals. We make nothing and your right we've borrowed ourselves into a hole so huge its essentially over for 99% of the public in the US and elsewhere. Now all that's left is the mopping up operation and unfortunately for the 1% who thought they had won the class war they waged against the rest of us , some of us aren't going into the night without resistance / aka #OWS et al.

[-] 1 points by testing (19) 2 years ago

We all have to look at WHY this happened and it started a few decades ago and one of the roots of the issue, as I see it, was the establishment of unrealistic pension guarantees. These funds have to generate a return and a certain portion of these funds have to be in AAA rated assets. As rates were reduced by Greenspan, pension managers needed to find yield. Bankers started to synthesize MBS securities and other ABS to fill this need. That led to higher yields on "AAA" securities, more debt, more greed and higher incentives to get people to spend outside their means. It was a vortex that sucked everyone and everything down (or up) into it. Now we are paying for the greed that EVERYONE was a part of.

[-] 0 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 2 years ago

Yea, blame the victims here, that's the 1%'s MO. The Nazis blamed also the Jews for their own gassing. Where is Madame Defarge when we need her?

[-] 0 points by Freemarket (26) 2 years ago

LOL.

[-] -1 points by JesuitOrder (53) 2 years ago

Its creepy down here !! I feel the cold winds of Colectivism ...

[-] -1 points by JesuitOrder (53) 2 years ago

"Righties" and "lefties" are both controlled by wall street.

All the coments using the word "righties" are suspect ...

[-] -1 points by JesuitOrder (53) 2 years ago

Beware of dangerous "conspiracy theories" ...

Stay away from "deviant thought". GroupThink is good for you.

[-] -1 points by qazxsw123 (238) 2 years ago

Do not fear disagreement. Learn from it. Take things in, think about it and refine your judgment, and then disagree again, and so on and so forth. Now is the time to learn, talk, debate; no need to feel guilty about opposite views and the discomfort of disagreement.

[-] 1 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

That's a good message. But one that's up against a group that thinks there is no disagreement. Remember, they claim to be the 99%.

[-] -1 points by notaspoiledbrat (0) 2 years ago

This is the way the liberal socialists work. First they destroy the voice of America while deluding people into thinking they are fighting for their voice, then they erase all evidence of all ideas but their own. I am so happy to see that the socialists here are not hypocrites. They are doing exactly what the handbook says to do. I can not agree with socialism, and will probably be erased for having my own opinion, but these views cannot be self supported under scrutiny. For socialism to exist, thinking must be disallowed.

[-] 0 points by Tryagain (300) 2 years ago

When they all start talking in unison, that's especially creepy. Drill here and drain out your brain.

[-] -1 points by seeker (242) 2 years ago

An transparent forum is needed..Censorship should not be tolerated. If free speech is stifled the movement will fail.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

technically, this is freedom of press also guarantied

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

That would appear true to most people. However, let us examine the ultimate purpose of speech. The ultimate purpose of speech must be to share and understand knowledge vital to survival.-----

Okay, how do we know which speech does that? Perhaps that criteria could be applied reasonably to remove the prodigious artificial distractions the nwo infiltrations use. Yes, there is an official recommmendation to infiltrate from 2008.---

http://politics.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

Meaning we need a way to know the difference. Not all information is useful to survival all the time. That information can be easily diluted and it is.

[-] 0 points by seeker (242) 2 years ago

Totaly agree and the link proves we must be cautious.

The only way though is open access and dialogue where people can make up their own minds and are free to call foul play and ask questions.

Once you start banning selected media and speackers the game is up. Unless of course they are promoting violence or hate.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

I would suggest that those who are fully lawful, and seeking peaceful and lawful rebellion, actually a duty IF one stands to defend the constitution, can distinguish themselves.--

We need to distinguish ourselves as Americans that understand the vital importance of Article 5. Notice my username has ART5 at the end. I wanted it to stick out so used caps, but lower case art5 is better in a legal sense.-------

What we do is distinguish ourselves in 2 ways, one our username having "art5" at the end, two, the fact that we post referring to laws with a full understanding and acceptance and agreement of the fact that when we use the law of the land to defend itself assuring constitutional government, we are COMPLETELY lawful. Far moreso than any other group. We need to realize how much that protects protestors and our effort to defend the constitution.-----

Those that will not join . . . have some kind of problem and are shown to be inconsistent with any pretense that they actually are working to see change or the demands met. Can we find a reason to keep those posts after knowing this?

There are different forms of cognitive infiltration. Marginalizing with misdirection such as hate/violence is but one more extreme. Useless information for change is the most common. I mean that in a VERY bigtime way. I've described a strategy to circumvent that.

[-] 0 points by demonspawn79 (186) 2 years ago

Feel free to set up your own forum then, I'm sure it will be very popular. This is not a public forum, it's paid for by private individuals. It's entirely their right to decide who can speak and who can't.

[-] 2 points by seeker (242) 2 years ago

Can i ask who is funding this forum..And if opinion and policy is decided by the financiers cant you see why it will fail.. I am not stupid enough to take it your word is that of the forum "owners" but such statements will destroy the movement.

[-] 2 points by Notconfusedanymore (62) 2 years ago

adbusters

[-] 1 points by demonspawn79 (186) 2 years ago

Err...it doesn't cost that much to run a website. It's probably paid for by one person and they get to decide what is discussed on the forum. I suggest you go click the link on the front page that says, "Read the rules before posting". I'm sure you'll see why people are being banned.

[-] 0 points by seeker (242) 2 years ago

But this is fascism..To censor information is wrong..These policys must be reviewed or the hard work will be undone..No one could take this movement seriously..This is an abomination of commonsense..So who is funding this site?

[-] 0 points by demonspawn79 (186) 2 years ago

It's not fascism. This forum is not a country, it has no form of government. You are perfectly free to leave whenever you want, nobody is forcing you to use this forum.

[-] 0 points by seeker (242) 2 years ago

I am going.. I will NEVER support or give my energy to anything that stifles and censors information.. And i will share what i have learned here with the world.

Seriously you must reconsider policy or you WILL fail.

[-] 0 points by demonspawn79 (186) 2 years ago

I must reconsider policy? What makes you think I have anything to do with this site? lol Share whatever you like with the world, generosity is a noble virtue.

Anyway, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[-] 1 points by seeker (242) 2 years ago

Its in black and white no conspiracy theories..LOL who the fuck decides fact from theory??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

The 99%

[-] -1 points by demonspawn79 (186) 2 years ago

Hmm..you seem to have become quite agitated. You may want to step away from the computer for a few minutes, take a deep breath, maybe go for a walk.

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 2 years ago

But some parks we are holding are privately owned. They want to censor us, we insist on free speech. If we insist on it for some of us, but not all of us, then what are we doing at all? IMO, not dissension, but discussion.