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Forum Post: Democrat and Republican Votes on NAFTA and GATT

Posted 2 years ago on May 14, 2015, 7:30 a.m. EST by turbocharger (1756)
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To anyone that is surprised to see the Democrats and Republicans selling the country down the road for corporate favor, you need to wake up.

Its been going on since day one. Thats why they are there.

Senate Vote on NAFTA: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/s395

House Vote on NAFTA: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/h575

Senate Vote on GATT: http://votesmart.org/bill/2644/10124#7789

House Vote on GATT: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1994/roll507.xml

So as even the blindest and most partisan political hacks can see, this latest TPP sell out is no big news. Its the entire reason those two parties are there.

For people not familiar with the trade votes, NAFTA was the one that really opened up Mexico. GATT is an ongoing set of treaties, but the Clinton administration version was the one that blew the top off for China. It opened up the financials for China.

These are important landmark policies because not only did they ship all of our manufacturing jobs out of here, but they also increased pollution 10x. All the factories moved to zero environmental regulation countries.

Remember that next time you see Al Gore or the Clintons talking about anything that has to do with the planet.

It was their call to remove most of the union jobs, and it was their call to send the planet into the tar pits.

Democrats and Republicans. Fucking over the country for 100 years.

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[-] 2 points by elf3 (3721) 2 years ago

Yes the imaginary puppet wrestling show ... people like to think their cause is winning it is an illusion. They draw us in with candy...then sadly we know what happens after that. The illusion of choice is a powerful one...and government and corpirations have been conducting choice blindness studies for years. As long as we think we made the choice...psychologically we convince ourselves it was the correct one. Masses thus subdued...powers that be free to do what they please. There is a choice C. It isn't being offered. Don't forget that...it is up to us to hunt it down. And...always question our decisions....always look for the alternative...don't fall into the traps of our own psyches. We do not have to stand by our choices...we are free to change our minds.

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1756) 2 years ago

Its been going on for decades and shows no signs of slowing up.

Prepare for another "the most important election ever" where we are "given" two shit choices per important position, in a nation of 330 million.

Of course, other decent independent people will take the tough route and run, but the masses will trample over them as they always do.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I repeat this question to you - the same as I presented to a couple of your buddies.

So - - - where is your strong third party activism? Hhhhmmmmmmm?

How do you support the creation of Direct Participatory Democracy? Hhhhmmmmmmm?

Because - to this point in time - you and your cronies - just - erroneously conflate Ds & Rs.

Please elucidate on your peoples plan of action. Tell us all the actions to take to implement a Direct Participatory Democracy.

Don't bother throwing shit at me or try to dance around the issue. Just Explain Your plan.

How do the people retake government?

Spell it out.

You can - can't you?

So.

A to Z - lets have it.

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by mdonelly (347) from Mineola, NY 0 minutes ago

Sorry for not gettihg back to you sooner. It's just, I have a LIFE...you see, well other than proving that some people are here to have us vote for the lesser of the two evils AGAIN!

What say we discuss this at a better venue? I missed you last night at the Judson church? What the hell does Richard Wolff know about anything anyway? Will you be at the Left Forum (May 29 - June 1st), where we can pick this up again? I'll buy you a slice and a drink, or a bagel and coffee, you choice! That's a far more real choice than we have been getting by voting for one othe two corrupted parties. Right?

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Soooooooooooo - take the opportunity and explain how you are working towards the people retaking government.

Or like usual just continue with what you stinkle/twinkle teamers always do . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine

Ah baby

Move it baby

dancing . . . Dancing . . . DANCING . . .

. . . . we're a dancing machine . . . Ah baby

Move it baby

We dance to avoid to evade as we got nothing to provide . . . . Who needs substance - dancing is easier to do then actually most anything else . . . . . .

cause we're dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine . . . . . . ooo LOOK something shiny . . . . .

  • "Our theme song" - by (mdonelly, turbocharger and the Cronies)

5th track: (We copy from the worst)

We sing our own politi-speak - saying much while saying nothing at all - tossing aspersions and providing no plans - we're the next best thing to the rethuglicans in office - listen to us sing and pay no attention to the fact that we forward nothing that would be supportive of the people - and so we serve the status quo.

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)

11th track: (We erroneously conflate)

We erroneously conflate the dems and reps - as it provides us with cover as being against the system - while it throws mud at those who do not deserve it - and basically works to help people to choose to opt out of the process rather than make any united attempt to remove the actively evil from government - and so we support the status quo - "of this country being given to the 1%" - while hiding behind a claim of being revolutionary supporters of the people.

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)

12th track: (Hiding in plain sight)

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)

10th track: (Tossing Shit)

As We have nothing to back-up our stated positions (opt-out fiction) - We will do our best to throw it back on ( put a lie on) any who would ask for details of our non-existent action plans (Ya know......those who put the lie - "to shine the light" - on our bullshit).

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)

9th track: (Take no action)

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Yeah it's pretty clear, we ain't for you

But we can shake it, shake it like we're supposed to do

'Cause We got that boom boom that all the 1%'s chase

All the right crap spread in all the right places

We see the citizens groups working that action to take

We know that shit ain't real (believe us)

Come on now, make it stop ( as we like things the way they are)

If you got apathy apathy - just raise it up

'Cause every inch of you is perfect

From the bottom to the top

Yeah, our Koch he told us don't worry about your stance

He says, people they like a little more BS to hold to at night

You know we won't support no publc-figure, speaking truth to all,

So, if that's what's you're into

Then go ahead and move along

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Bout that base, take no action

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We're bringing doody back

Go ahead and tell them citizens groups hey

No, We're not playing - you stink - you're naive,

We're here to tell you,

Every inch of you is played from from the cradle to the grave

Yeah, our Koch told us don't worry about your stance

He says, people they like a little more BS to hold at night

You know we won't support no publc-figure, speaking truth to all,

So, if that's what's you're into

Then go ahead and move along

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Bout that base, take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'bout that base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'bout that base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'bout that base

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Bout that base, take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'bout that base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'bout that base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'bout that base

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Bout that base, take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'bout that base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'bout that base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'bout that base

  • by ( mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)