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Forum Post: Dear Top Percent

Posted 2 years ago on June 28, 2012, 6:26 p.m. EST by elf3 (2240)
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I want time - above all things - can you offer me a way to still live my life, more than enough just to scrape by and not struggle, and enough time left for me in each day so I can enjoy the planet and life I was born into? Your offer for work is good for the life that's been pre-determined and way corporations think we should live, but it's not a good enough solution. While you offer the opportunity not to starve, you don't offer the opportunity to get ahead, sleep soundly, enjoy time before life is over, or to provide enough pay to not worry about bills slipping behind or taking care of our families. How is this not indentured servitude? When there is nothing extra, and no extra time, only enough to allow me to continue to serve you all my days and not starve? You offer no opportunity for savings - your pay does not meet the demands of the set cost of living that the monopolies are determining. All you offer is a slow death. That is not living. This reminds me of peasants and "Noblemen"; taking away our ability to sustain ourselves and then "allowing" us to work for them so we don't starve. But nothing we make belongs to us, nothing we earn is ours, it is only to sustain YOU... in truth, your job offer is an offer for us to give up our lives and sustain you...while gaining nothing tangible in return. IF you hadn't first contributed to the death of our ability to sustain ourselves then perhaps you could be seen as a sort of provider, but that ability was stolen by your kind (monopolies and those who support them politically or who hold stocks) and Wall Street and now you're only offering to sell back what was taken against our will. Now, even forcing us to buy it.

Dear government officials and courts – why do you sell out your people while partnering with monopolies who want to eliminate our ability to sustain ourselves, stamp out or buy up all entrepreneurs and competitors, and force us to live off of them?

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[-] 3 points by elf3 (2240) 2 years ago

More than 50 percent of Americans make less than $26,000 per year per the SSA

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (21289) 2 years ago

Great heartfelt post, elf3. I agree with you. We can do much better as a society, but only if we start fighting for workers' rights.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34847) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Put a muzzle on Greed.

People over profits.

Human rights.

World Wide.

Support them.

Save the World.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34847) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I'm with ya elf.

The whole idea of just wages and reasonable hours and decent working conditions is so that we can have a life.

CorpoRAT and other business ASSHOLES.

Listen-up.

Work does not = life.

Just where in hell do you get the idea it is OK to work people to death?

No wonder society around the world is sick and dying. No one is being allowed to live.

Fuck You and your need to produce product faster then it can be sold - fuck you and your need to run production 24/7/365.

Just FUCK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Occupy the Federal Reserve

[-] 0 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 2 years ago

Here's how you can work 75% less (or have 75% more free time) while also having 75% more luxury (equaling the upper 1%), as follows:

We the peoples, in order to secure Freedom and Justice for All, do enact this Constitution for Strategic International Systems LLC (or SIS LLC) as summarized in the following Business Operations Forecast: The customer value mission of SIS LLC is (1) to organize all customer-investors into 3,000 investment squad sites of 16 friends (or virtual specialties), and related internet investment legislatures of 50,000 friends (or virtual towns), requiring (2) a $20 weekly capital contribution for 1 year (or $1,000) to (3) create your investment club bank of 50,000 friends (or physical town) -- that is, having $50 million in initial assets -- which (4) due to the operation of today’s fractional banking system becomes (5) $500 million in new annual business loans (or $10,000 in new annual individual loans, plus $10,000 more credit every year) from yourself as a new bank officer to yourself as a new business officer who (6) takes 75% employee business control as business officer-investors and 25% customer business control as bank officer-investors of (7) your specific 12 investments (or businesses) in your new bank investment account wherein (8) your investor voting power equals (9) your 1 of 12 levels of experience in (10) your 1 of 12 sectors in 1 of 50 industries in 1 of 200 occupations in 1 of 3,000 specialities which (11) votes-upon your purchasing (or investment) orders as (12) proposed by your employee-elected chain of command. This means you will have 75% employee business control over your workplace as business officers and, as bank officers, 25% customer business control over all 12 investments (or businesses) in your new bank investment account. In turn, with this 100% town-level business control of your 3,000 workplaces, you can decrease your 12 customer consumption expenses by 75% for services, vehicles, education, retail, food, construction, technology, manufacturing, wholesale, health, justice, and banking expenses; that is, over your first 12 years of SIS LLC membership using a 75% more effective and efficient town design, and related 3,000 workplace designs (herein). Furthermore, while creating your new town & workplace design as described by this constitution, you will replace today’s communist big businesses, and related big governments, with your new small investment club banks, and related small investments (or businesses), as proposed, financed, and patronized by your 3,000 investment squad sites of 16 friends (or virtual specialties) in your internet investment legislature of 50,000 friends (or virtual town). Why? First, because today’s executive business income (mostly from bank or financial asset income) is 33% of all income which is a huge amount of upper 1% income to split among yourselves as new bank officers having 25% customer business control, right? Second, because today’s executive business wealth is 42% of all wealth which is a huge amount of upper 1% wealth to split among yourselves as new business officers having 75% employee business control; that is, only after becoming new bank officers (above) first, right? For example, this means if you earn $12/hour today, then you will earn $36/hour tomorrow after adding (1) your old wage income, plus (2) your 33% (more and new) interest income as a new bank officer, plus (3) your 42% (more and new) dividend & gain income as a new business officer. Together, these 4 sources of wealth & income from your specific 12 investments (or businesses) will double your net worth every 6-12 years (until retirement); that is, from the compound interest decline of today's upper 1% executives whom you will replace as the new bank & business investor-officers. So, with this power, let’s end today’s communist big businesses, and related big governments, okay? How? By helping to operate your own Business Operations Forecast (above) at http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/ , and related NextDoor.com; so help us help you, today!

You won't understand the above summary unless you read and think about, repeatedly, the entire new constitution at: https://docs.google.com/a/strategicinternationalsystems.com/document/pub?id=1mKKLMTIyvRCLK2ppPj_GDjdieCvJnATaZaCmlajubWU

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (17601) 2 years ago

Stand down, Marine ! What is the purpose of this unparagraphed, monolithic block of text that you are repeating all over this forum ?!! WTF has "75% more luxury (equaling the upper 1%)" - mean and what does that have to do with "OWS" ?!!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] -1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 2 years ago

Sorry, typo on the monolith, here's something more readable for you.

The problem with occupy is that you constantly speak vaguely of “exploitation” instead of “opportunity” and “duty”. For example, here's an opportunity, and related duty, for you to work 75% less (or have 75% more free time) while also having 75% more luxury (equaling the upper 1%), as follows:

We the peoples, in order to secure Freedom and Justice for All, do enact this Constitution for Strategic International Systems LLC (or SIS LLC) as summarized in the following Business Operations Forecast:

The customer value mission of SIS LLC is (1) to organize all customer-investors into 3,000 investment squad sites of 16 friends (or virtual specialties), and related internet investment legislatures of 50,000 friends (or virtual towns), requiring (2) a $20 weekly capital contribution for 1 year (or $1,000) to (3) create your investment club bank of 50,000 friends (or physical town) -- that is, having $50 million in initial assets -- which (4) due to the operation of today’s fractional banking system becomes (5) $500 million in new annual business loans (or $10,000 in new annual individual loans, plus $10,000 more credit every year) from yourself as a new bank officer to yourself as a new business officer who (6) takes 75% employee business control as business officer-investors and 25% customer business control as bank officer-investors of (7) your specific 12 investments (or businesses) in your new bank investment account wherein (8) your investor voting power equals (9) your 1 of 12 levels of experience in (10) your 1 of 12 sectors in 1 of 50 industries in 1 of 200 occupations in 1 of 3,000 specialities which (11) votes-upon your purchasing (or investment) orders as (12) proposed by your employee-elected chain of command.

This means you will have 75% employee business control over your workplace as business officers and, as bank officers, 25% customer business control over all 12 investments (or businesses) in your new bank investment account. In turn, with this 100% town-level business control of your 3,000 workplaces, you can decrease your 12 customer consumption expenses by 75% for services, vehicles, education, retail, food, construction, technology, manufacturing, wholesale, health, justice, and banking expenses; that is, over your first 12 years of SIS LLC membership using a 75% more effective and efficient town design, and related 3,000 workplace designs (herein). Furthermore, while creating your new town & workplace design as described by this constitution, you will replace today’s communist big businesses, and related big governments, with your new small investment club banks, and related small investments (or businesses), as proposed, financed, and patronized by your 3,000 investment squad sites of 16 friends (or virtual specialties) in your internet investment legislature of 50,000 friends (or virtual town).

Why? First, because today’s executive business income (mostly from bank or financial asset income) is 33% of all income which is a huge amount of upper 1% income to split among yourselves as new bank officers having 25% customer business control, right? Second, because today’s executive business wealth is 42% of all wealth which is a huge amount of upper 1% wealth to split among yourselves as new business officers having 75% employee business control; that is, only after becoming new bank officers (above) first, right?

For example, this means if you earn $12/hour today, then you will earn $36/hour tomorrow after adding (1) your old wage income, plus (2) your 33% (more and new) interest income as a new bank officer, plus (3) your 42% (more and new) dividend & gain income as a new business officer. Together, these 4 sources of wealth & income from your specific 12 investments (or businesses) will double your net worth every 6-12 years (until retirement); that is, from the compound interest decline of today's upper 1% executives whom you will replace as the new bank & business investor-officers. So, with this power, let’s end today’s communist big businesses, and related big governments, okay? How? By helping to operate your own Business Operations Forecast (above) at http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/ , and related NextDoor.com; so help us help you, and join today!

You won't understand the above summary unless you read and think about the entire new constitution, repeatedly, at: https://docs.google.com/a/strategicinternationalsystems.com/document/pub?id=1mKKLMTIyvRCLK2ppPj_GDjdieCvJnATaZaCmlajubWU

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (21289) 2 years ago

You are free to say what you want on this forum as long as you follow the rules. Read the "Stay on Target" section of the link "Read the Rules." You are off topic and spamming this same comment over and over. Please stop. You might even want to consider deleting them from this thread. Create your own thread.

[-] -1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 2 years ago

I will speak where, when, and often as I like, and there is a damn thing you can do about, except think!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (21289) 2 years ago

If you thought, you'd read the forum rules and follow them.

[-] -1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 2 years ago

MY rule is: I will speak where, when, and as often as I like, and there isn't a damn thing you can do about, except think!

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (21289) 2 years ago

You like to repeat yourself.

[-] 1 points by elf3 (2240) 2 years ago

atki - I worked all day and your post is long (and mostly I don't want to get suckered into reading something that is a long road to a short point only to prove a point) or might actually be an ad - can you give us a breakdown so we don't all get a headache? That could help!

[-] 0 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 2 years ago

Sorry, the law (or science) always requires deep mathematical thinking; it's the greatest weakness of many humans that they dislike math even though it's the basis ("or rock") of their prosperity.

[-] 3 points by elf3 (2240) 2 years ago

mathematics always has a bottom line - so get to it dirt-bag you're not more intelligent than anyone here - people with good ideas want to share them not test people. People that test people are bullshit artist assholes who can't stand by a single conviction. Instead they feel they have to draw a puzzle for the rest of us to solve so we can somehow prove ourselves - I have nothing to prove to you if you have an idea to share or something to say then come out with it - or be gone - and I don't have the time to figure out what your angle is - if you can't explain it - then why should anyone trust that you even know what the hell your talking about to be bothered to read through that jumble of crap?

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 2 years ago

As it concerns "testing", it doesn’t matter what people believe, it only matters what they can PROVE as the law (or science) by physically TESTING it. Consequently, as a scientist, I need 50,000 people, in any town, to test the above new constitution, and thus prove it mathematically. Said another way, the law (or science) isn't subject to anyone's personal opinion, for after mathematical proof is provided through testing, then acceptance is the only rational, as opposed to emotional, opinion people can have in what they write, say, do, etc. For example, there is only one law of gravity, right? Why? Because that's what repeated physical testing has proven. Consequently, even though the church didn’t BELIEVE that Galileo was right about the sun (not the earth) being in the center of the solar system, Newton proved him right with his tests, and related mathematical proof. Of course, Newton’s law of gravity was further REFINED by Einstein, but that didn't change the substantial correctness of Newton's Law of Gravity as proven by his physical tests, and related mathematical proof. The same is true of natural social law, such as the above constitution (in the bottom link), as a natural physical law in need of testing, and related mathematical proof. Therefore, I assert to the world that the above Constitution, when physically tested by 50,000 people as an internet investment legislature in just 1 town, will mathematically prove that they will have a 75% competitive advantage over today’s upper 1% bank & business upper managers. Consequently, those 50,000 people will become the new bank & business officer-investors of their town, and thus take away that 33% of income and 42% of wealth which today’s upper 1% suck out of their town to their seaside villas elsewhere. Instead, you will have the seaside villa because you will have increased your income by 33% and your wealth by 42% while reducing their upper 1% wealth and income by an equal amount. That will be true of everyone in your town 50,000. Furthermore, much more important than those monetary (or quantitative) results, are the standard-of-living (or qualitative) results; namely, that you (and they) will thereafter work 75% less and yet have 75% more luxury. Therefore, you will have 75% more freedom (or time), by working 75% less, to enjoy that 75% more luxury, such as the luxury of spending 75% of your day studying (or enjoying) the arts and sciences (or whatever you choose to do) instead of working some mindless, boring, repetitive job (requiring no creativity or thought), all while having 33% more income and 42% more wealth (quantitatively) than you do today. However, 50,000 customer-investors have to DEMAND that this new constitution be TESTED by themselves as new bank & business investor-officers. Why? Because today’s upper 1% managers have a VESTED financial interest in maintaining the STATUS QUO to your detriment. Therefore, what have you (and they) got to lose (other than being mindless slaves) by joining the web site above and becoming a consumption purchasing officer; that is, for a few hours a week, just to test and prove it to the world, bettering the world by your scientific accomplishment. You have nothing to lose, but a great deal to gain, as cited above. Bottom line, you (and they) can have 75% more luxury for 75% less work if you will let me prove it to you by executing that new constitution as described above in just 1 town of 50,000 people. Why? Because it's the law (or science), and I can prove it mathematically if you participate in its testing The business operations forecast details the quality-of-life increase, the benefits, for the cost which is just a few hours of your time per week. Have you read that business operations forecast in the above "full proposal" link in order to understand the benefits to yourself and others (aside from making history)?

[-] -1 points by MaerF0x0 (15) 2 years ago

@elf3 You can work so much less, you just have to accept that you cannot spend on anything else. Buy the most inexpensive nutritious food you can, rent a room w/ roommates and dont buy anything new (ok, maybe new underwear :P ). By my estimates you should be able to live on like $400 a month. Thats only 12 hours per week at $8 per hour (im guessing you'd be under the tax threshold...) That gives you a lot of time to enjoy life. Go out side, go for a run. Go to the play ground and do some chinups. Get a guitar for like $100, play it all the time and dont get a new one until you're so good the companies start giving you free ones (like a signed band). Meet some friends and just get to know them, spend time with them without spending money. Life can be super super cheap if you just dont buy things.

But, and this is the big "but"... If you want the things of a consumerist world (this means cell phone, computer, newer clothes, seeing movies in an expensive theatre (w/ popcorn and drinks), college education (books are the poor man's education, you can learn just as much for 1/100th the price), a car, more than about 150 sq ft of your own living space, etc etc. .. Then you have to play the game of the people/companies who provide it. In order for the game to be moral, it has to be volitional. If you dont play by the sellers' rules, then you're stripping them of their volitional right. This "take" part of OWS is my main grievance with it.

[-] 3 points by elf3 (2240) 2 years ago

I don't buy anything but necessities - you're theory is crap - most of the people I know in the same situation as me don't even buy enough to eat... we work work work and sustain ourselves just to get back to work - I'll say once more as I've said before low income working poor people should not be forced into financial or living arrangements with strangers to survive - RENTS need to come DOWN and PAY needs to come UP.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34847) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I'm with ya elf.

The whole idea of just wages and reasonable hours and decent working conditions is so that we can have a life.

CorpoRAT and other business ASSHOLES.

Listen-up.

Work does not = life.

Just where in hell do you get the idea it is OK to work people to death?

No wonder society around the world is sick and dying. No one is being allowed to live.

Fuck You and your need to produce product faster then it can be sold - fuck you and your need to run production 24/7/365.

Just FUCK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!