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Forum Post: cruelty matters

Posted 2 years ago on June 4, 2015, 12:35 a.m. EST by elf3 (3721)
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IN our world necessity trumps cruelty...which is wrong but not socially accepted as wrong....but we haven't even defined our needs in proper alignment with what that truly means: necessity....Currently indulgence trumps suffering too. Cruelty is a tool of " necessity " by which we carry through our indulgences ...

http://www.mccruelty.com/why.aspx

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[-] 0 points by elf3 (3721) 2 years ago

What kind of piece of shit mother fuckers participate in this? And not just the monstrous workers absent of enough empathy or sense to either walk out or blow the whistle but the corporate business men and women patting eachothers backs and having workplace get togethers with appetizers and brie and go home to their children...and the people who purchase cruelty at the drive through. This goes for all slaughter houses and labratories as well. Cruelty must never be thought of as necessary.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Corp(se)oRAT ethics 101 = anything for the corp(se)oRAT profit. It's a wealth thing - wealth at any cost - as long as it is someone else s cost.

[-] 0 points by elf3 (3721) 2 years ago

Suffering is hiding away like a dirty little secret all over this planet...it is very bad pr...in reality if suffering was broadcast as a mandatory alert we would not have so much of it. Most human beings could not participate ...the workers have almost one hundred percent per year turnover in slaughterhouses but corporations are capable of inflicting cruelty and harm beyond our worst imaginings but they will never ever quit..they will hire more people to do their dirty work as they sweep conscience under a rug next to their vault of money. Which is why they should not be granted the right to decide any parcel or portion of governing or power to influence decisions about actual living beings. Sales trump cruelty. And that includes cruelty to the citizenry as well as animals.

[-] 0 points by elf3 (3721) 2 years ago

Granted there are actual people serving corporations turning a blind eye and actively enforcing cruelty as a "cost improvement". They would be locked up under any other circumstance were it not business. If they were torturing small animals in their own basements for a quick buck...we would shut them down.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Remember the death camps of WWII - they were manned not just by German soldiers - but were also manned by members of the prisoners.

People have GOT to own up to their own responsibilities.

[-] 0 points by elf3 (3721) 2 years ago

It is hard too see things while they are happening...partially I think denial is a defense mechanism of the human brain...I think often to the lead up to the Nazi party in Germany...the mass denial in front of events even as they were happening. In the aftermath many if they could would have done things differently...and there were those crying foul the whole time who were marginalized as Occupy is today. I think knowing corporations are capable of great cruelty should serve as a warning...we can't allow them to have power over us. They commit great atrocities here and around the world...or at the very least they know and allow it to continue...as in Companies like Bechtel privatizing water and imprisoning those who collect rainwater...so expensive were their rates that people had to take out lifelong loans to pay....or DynCorp a major USA contractor whose employees were trafficking young girls as sex slaves. The problem for me especially is that many of these companies are connected - the same company manufacturing Agent Orange - is also producing our food and household chemicals. Do you really trust them to care if you get cancer from the products?

Are there people who believe we are any different to corporations to the animals they abuse? The total lack of empathy toward a living being with pain receptors and brains like ours...tells me about a deeper problem...Corporate Entities and Institutions lack soul and compassion, are capable of inflicting great suffering...and would not differentiate when it came to " cost reduction" and "profit increase" which species that happened to apply to; Corporations are sick. We can keep standing by...or we can draw the comparisons...they will come to bare ....these events are not irrelevant to us. Not just because I believe we will be next, but because individually we have the moral insight to see how wrong it is to inflict such suffering on living beings human or animal...I don't think this is who we want to be: http://investigations.peta.org/pain-fear-death-primate-products/

https://jamesptaylor.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/bolivia-bechtel-and-the-fight-for-public-water/

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11119 (DynCorp Atrocities)

http://www.thefutureoffood.com

Supreme Court can you hear us now?

[-] 0 points by elf3 (3721) 2 years ago

If you watch the Peta videos the thing which struck me most about the PPI monkeys was the footage of the undercover Peta agent holding one of the monkeys hands she looked up at him imploring for mercy there was recognition and understanding in her face that this person was there to help. Only she was still doomed and she would go on to suffer. Her plea went unanswered and she just another corporate sacrifice...This just kills me knowing that so much suffering is ignored and continues...there is no dignity or humanity. Sadly, the understanding between her and the Peta investigator though momentarily comforting must have been even more confusing as he was forced to leave her to endure more trauma. This falls on our shoulders all of us if we choose to do nothing we are no better. Workers in these facilities are monsters. If they would refuse to perform the dirty work ...then corporations could not carry this stuff to task...I shudder at the thought of their facilities in unregulated nations. If we think it is bad here...where we have "animal rights" ...just imagine.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The "key" is waking-up the population at large. What is going on in the name of profits - IS - an abomination. There could be plenty of profit for those who need to be wealthy above all others - and it need not be at the expense of millions of people being made to live in abject poverty.

[-] 0 points by elf3 (3721) 2 years ago

It took a Holocaust to wake people up in history...I fear the point in time when collectively society finally opens their eyes to the dangers of Corporate Power partnered with Governments... it keeps me awake wondering what that awakening will look like. We - the opposition- have been marginalized and in turn, we have largely become silent/ tamed.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

fifa is currently the visible tip of the iceberg that people actually see. I just wonder - who the hell did they piss off so badly that they would now be outcasts - that they would be abandoned by the other multinational corp(se)oRAT criminals - to be left fair game for any legal authority. What kind of a suicidal Bernie Madoff move did they make? It can't have been the deaths of the captive slave workers building the stadium in Qatar (could it?) - because that is just normal corp(se)oRAT behavior around the world (is it not?). So just exactly WHO did fifa piss off - that it seems that they are going to be made a criminal example?

[-] 0 points by elf3 (3721) 2 years ago

Even politicians who in their hearts disagree with the things corporations do...tip toe around them as if they may be struck with a lightning bolt. When even independently rich politicians are afraid of Corporations , terrified to voice concerns , cower in fear ( think of the little boy in the Amazing Stories episode terrorizing his family)...the message is clear : people are no longer running this country.

[-] 0 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 years ago

Yes and systemic change will not come about by putting our efforts into either of the corrupt parties!

[-] 0 points by elf3 (3721) 2 years ago

I think we need to thrust the supreme court into the limelight on this problem. You have 5 people who voted to kill Democracy in one swift move with Citizens United decision. And yet not one investigation into the possible conflicts of interest on such a sweeping decision. Clearly the majority of Americans have and had problems with money in politics ...corpirate lobbying...and these individuals took upon themselves to attack the democratic process and allow for massive corruption. I mean I think it is time to open these people's books and find out exactly where their interests lay. As of now the court is a useless neo corporate group willing to sell democracy to highest bidders both foreign and domestic. They have shirked their duties.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 20 minutes ago

Yes and systemic change will not come about by putting our efforts into either of the corrupt parties!

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Is that truly all that you have to offer? You have plenty to say about what can NOT be done. So Far You Have NOTHING to say as to what CAN be done.

Here - review some of the left forum stuff that you and your opt-out buddies could not share - maybe you can get inspired:

Watch Left Forum 2015 on @Livestream: http://livestream.com/accounts/6754733/events/4070733?t=1432944150317

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 minutes ago

Yes and systemic change will not come about by putting our efforts into either of the corrupt parties!

↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

Is that truly all that you have to offer? You have plenty to say about what can NOT be done. So Far You Have NOTHING to say as to what CAN be done.

[-] 0 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 years ago

Is voting for more CORRUPT Democrats, and smearing anyone who doesn't all that you have to offer

[-] 0 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 years ago

There can be a lot done as long as we do not let Democratic operatives co-opt this movement. Both parties are infamous for swallowing dissent. Your corrupt, corporate owned, DEMOCRATIC President is the prime example of how they lie.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33169) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 1 minute ago

There can be a lot done as long as we do not let Democratic operatives co-opt this movement. Both parties are infamous for swallowing dissent. Your corrupt, corporate owned, DEMOCRATIC President is the prime example of how they lie.

↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

My corrupt president? Unless you are from another country - OH-Bummer - is also your corrupt president.

Just because you choose to opt-out - it does not make you any less responsible.

I expect that during WWII that you would have been an individual feeding the furnaces - AND - your excuse would be that you had no choice.

So opt-out - it does not relieve you of any responsibility.

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