Forum Post: Create a VOTE option on Threads
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 8, 2011, 11:08 a.m. EST by nucleus
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I propose the creation of a vote on threads similar to the vote on posts. People would be able to like or dislike the original post without having to make a post of their own.
I also propose adding a sidebar of "best posts" (those with the most likes). This would direct people to the most popular posts.
Of course it would also give the trolls another playground, but maybe it is worth trying.
I sent an email about this... I vote yes, as well!
I vote yes. Two forums already have this BTW:
http://www.occupyr.com/ and http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/
I vote yes
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Don't we have all of those features already?
All we need IMO is a Mod Team that actually ENFORCES the "moderating policies" that they themselves have posted here but which are not being applied. WHY are they not being applied?
Many users have written to complain about the state of CHAOS that prevails in this troll-infested forum as well as the chat room, but noboby even bothers to answer.
THE RESULT ? Thousands of potential supporters and contributors are so TURNED OFF by the forum and the chat room that they exit in droves, never to be seen again.
That is self-destructive on the part of OWS and gives an impression of 1 - weakness and 2 - indecisiveness ("vacilacion" as they say in Spanish).
C'MON, OWS, is THAT the image you want to project through this very important site???
EXAMPLE : Here is just one example of the GARBAGE that the Mod Team tolerates on this forum:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/milf-karma-camille-gets-drenched-in-cum-by-many-me/
Believe it or not, this "post" has been on this site for the last 45 hours and NOTHING has been done about it, NADA!
The Trolls are bragging that they have "taken over" this site and you know what? They are RIGHT!
This proposal is about creating a system to rate threads. There is currently no way to rate a topic (original post).
What effect this will have in regard to trolls is unknown. If the number of trolls outnumbers the rest of us, that would be evidenced by which topics rise to the top of a sidebar. Conversely, if the trolls are in a minority, more pertinent discussions would rise to the top.
I see what you mean and I agree : it would indeed be a good idea.
What do you think of the points I raised about moderating policies not being applied ?
There are many frustrations within and outside the movement.
I've been - and remain - an unconditional supporter of OWS from Day 1, so I'm not merely venting personal frustrations, my criticism is entirely constructive.
I see three potentially FATAL ERRORS that OWS is committing at the present time and the total "LAISSEZ-FAIRE" attitude in regards to this forum is one of them. I cannot for the life of me understand what possible tactical advantages there could be to letting the trolls take over this VERY important site.
Trolls are simply the same forces that are against us across the board. Corporate media, politicians, the 1%, those seeking to capitalize on OWS, those who are not the 99% (yet), the arrogant, the angry ignorant, etc.
On one level this is a training ground for dealing with them. Marginalizing them or pretending they don't exist are the very same tactics they have used against us for decades. Are we bigger than that?
That is a thoughtful and intelligent answer - just the kind that I expected from you. Yes, "nucleus", your comments are among the best on this forum. I do see what you mean about knowing the enemy and using this forum as a "training ground" for dealing with them. (By the way, I did a satirical piece on the trolls. Here's the link in case you missed it : http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-trolls-think-trollosophy-exposed/
So I see the wisdom of what you're saying FOR INTELLECTUALS. My concern is for those millions of Americans who are NOT intellectuals and who cannot comprehend the chaos that prevails on this forum as well as in the chat room. We NEED those millions of ordinary Americans, men and women of good will, in fact we are engaged in an epic battle for the hearts and minds of these millions of Americans. If OWS is to succeed, we cannot possibly afford to ignore them.
And what I'm saying is the current state of the forum and the chat room is such that it TURNS OFF hundreds of thousand of potential supporters and contributors. They throw their hands up in disgust and exit the site, never to return. Is THAT what we want???
I may have a solution. It would consist in CURBING the number of trolls, as opposed to eliminating them all. That way 1 - the intellectuals would still have the benefit of the "training ground" to learn about the enemy and 2 - the "average Joe" would have the benefit of exploring a site that doesn't confuse or demoralize or revolt him.
In other words, the Mod Team's mandate would be to carefully maintain a happy medium. In terms of numbers, I was thinking that they could weed out about 70% of the trolls. That would still leave at least 150 active trolls, which would still be plenty enough. In early October, that was the approximate number of active trolls and it was... tolerable. It's only in the past couple of weeks that people have begun to complain that the place is "troll-infested".
How does that sound to you?
Dealing with trolls is not the subject of this thread.
You yourself wrote in your post :
"Of course it would also give the trolls another playground, but maybe it is worth trying".
So obviously trolls WERE on your mind.
Any proposal regarding the forums without considering the consequences in regard to trolling would be imprudent.
yep, the voting does work.
Rather than voting on this idea based on its merit, you have voted against my posts because I have taken you to task over your repetitive, self-serving posts intended to build your web presence on the work and discontent of people who do not share you values.
Thanks for demonstrating once again the kind of mindset that has destroyed the economy and fouled the environment. But to be honest, we really don't need any more examples of this behavior.
yes. i voted you down because i don't like you. that is how it works. don't like it, stop doing what you are doing.
The difference between us is that I don't extend my dislike with what you are doing to you personally. If you post an idea or comment with merit, I will gladly support it. As far as I have seen, you haven't.
Maybe you should try it sometime.
i don't really care dude. get over it.
I don't have anything to get over. You are the one with a problem.
you're right, the voting does work, your reply is now at the top :)