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Forum Post: Cost of Living is to high for minimum wage workers.

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 16, 2011, 5:44 p.m. EST by TheSocialistRevolutionaryParty (14) from Paterson, NJ
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how come when they raise the minimum wage lets say 2% the cost of living raises up 4%???False hope maybe??Someone has to do something about it, and it's up to the people to fight for it's rights by any means possible.The Socialist Revolution is near!!

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[-] 1 points by sickmint79 (516) from Grayslake, IL 12 years ago

only social security ties to inflation iirc (COLA cost of living adjustments)

they are rather independent, as one is the result of monetary policy and the other simply congress. if you raise minimum wage too high you push people whose productivity is below it out of the labor market.

you can find poor urban areas where many people wish it was actually lower so that more jobless youth could be given jobs, taught responsibility and trained up to leave and get better paying jobs.

[-] 1 points by malikov (443) from Pasadena, CA 12 years ago

The wages are corporate expense accounts, allowances to sustain some level of life that physically permits working. The work itself is unpaid. Of course no one at minimum wage can afford anything,despite working hard full time.

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[-] 1 points by reddy2 (256) 12 years ago

You have to correct the source of the hidden inflation by auditing and potentially closing the privately owned Federal Reserve. Everything else is a band aid solution.

Watch this for simple explanation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU

[-] 1 points by uslynx81 (203) 12 years ago

Well hopefully those on minimum wage should be teenagers and if you haven't gained any skills and can only flip a hamburger and if you jump from job to job then yeah you fail.

[-] 1 points by armchairecon (138) 12 years ago

What is each worker entitled to?

2br apt? 1br? studio? get a roomate if you cant afford even a studio? eat out 3x week? enough to raise self? raise couple? raise family of 3? an iphone with a 100/month data plan?

What should we really entitled to?

it seems to me, If you aer making 15k a yr.. get a room mate, eat home more, use contraception (so you wont have to starve your kid), ditch your cell phone... easy decisions if you are responsible imho.. it is our indescretion and lack of self control that makes it difficult.. its not very fun, but if you live frugally for a few years, you will build up some savings.. create alittle small business or save for school etc.

[-] 1 points by Greentara (205) 12 years ago

Well said

[-] 1 points by TheSocialistRevolutionaryParty (14) from Paterson, NJ 12 years ago

So I'm supposed to sacrifice myself to a shitty lifestyle so my boss can waist 30 grand at the track,or build another house in malibu,or buy their toy poodle a diamond dog collar.GREED is the word here and don't say he worked hard for it.most minimum wage jobs have very hard labor and if not for the poor who will work them?As for the small business everyone can't have one it's impossible,and school is great and all but you still need to fill up those low end jobs just give them their fair share.

[-] 1 points by technoviking (484) 12 years ago

your boss started out somewhere too, didn't he?

he jumped right into a lavish lifestyle straight out of high school?

[-] 1 points by armchairecon (138) 12 years ago

sacrifice yourself to a shitty ;ifestyle? my.. what a sense of entitlment.... if you want a good lifestyle work hard for it.. its not and never will be guaranteed.. nor should it be..

btw.. wanting soemthing for nothing is GREED also incase you couldnt see through your self rightous colored glasses.. if you were smart and hard working, you could have what your boss has. if you are neither, why do you deserve it?

[-] 1 points by TheSocialistRevolutionaryParty (14) from Paterson, NJ 12 years ago

GREED is the word here and don't say he worked hard for it.most minimum wage jobs have very hard labor and if not for the poor who will work them? nobody said wanting something for nothing. just give them their fair share.

[-] 1 points by Indy4Change (254) from Columbia, SC 12 years ago

"Working hard" is not just about slopping trash, mopping a floor, or flipping burgers in a hot environment. Executives aren't all "evil greedy" slime either. They are the ones who are accepting the risks with capital investments, hiring/firing, financial management, etc - all beholden to the shareholders who demand the returns on their investments. It's not peaches and cream for those at the top. True, some are greedy pigs, but the companies are the ones writing the contracts that they are obligated to pay - you know, that whole individual contract thing that capitalism is built on. Your screen name though tells me where you stand with regards to capitalism. If you want what they got - work for it and get your share... but don't demand they hand you their share just because you can bang a drum loudly for a month in the streets of major cities. It's not your contract!

[-] 1 points by TheSocialistRevolutionaryParty (14) from Paterson, NJ 12 years ago

"Working hard" is not about accepting the risks with capital investments, hiring/firing, financial management, etc. It's about doing something constructive for humanity for without the greed or money part of it those people are the ones who are obsolete. The real working class are the people that do the things that make the econamy not those that handle the money.

[-] 1 points by TheSocialistRevolutionaryParty (14) from Paterson, NJ 12 years ago

"Working hard" is not about accepting the risks with capital investments, hiring/firing, financial management, etc. It's about doing something constructive for humanity for without the greed or money part of it those people are the ones who are obsolete. The real working class are the people that do the things that make the econamy not those that handle the money.

[-] 1 points by TheSocialistRevolutionaryParty (14) from Paterson, NJ 12 years ago

"Working hard" is not about accepting the risks with capital investments, hiring/firing, financial management, etc. It's about doing something constructive for humanity for without the greed or money part of it those people are the ones who are obsolete. The real working class are the people that do the things that make the econamy not those that handle the money.

[-] 1 points by Indy4Change (254) from Columbia, SC 12 years ago

armchairecon beat me to it... We have a very different opinion on the benefits (or lack thereof) with altruism in society - so with that TSRP - I am will concede that we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I can tell you though, that as a small business owner who has taken risks, invested substantial capital in growing my business, and provided jobs to many people throughout the country -- it is very hard work and my work is very constructive for humanity... Am I a big 1% corporation? Nope - but God willing, some day, I sure hope to be and I am working very hard to make that happen and to help make some folks rich on the way up... (P.S. - I mean my employees and their families).

[-] 1 points by armchairecon (138) 12 years ago

I think you are confusing altruism and working hard.

Regardless of working hard, if you are poor, sacrifice what you do not value so you can spend it on things you do value. Its called decision making.. something both rich and poor need to do.

[-] 1 points by Mooks (1985) 12 years ago

How many of them are starving to death? The last I checked the poor were more likely to be obese than those Americans with more money.

[-] 1 points by TheSocialistRevolutionaryParty (14) from Paterson, NJ 12 years ago

it's like I said below people do illegal things for extra cash.plus rich people have liposuction surgery.I've been living among poverty my whole life so I see the realty

[-] 1 points by TheSocialistRevolutionaryParty (14) from Paterson, NJ 12 years ago

and people wonder why they steal, sell drugs, bootleg cd's and dvd's.They don't have the skills to get a good job so they try to get it the only way they know how,breaking the law.So if your one of the people that are going to say it does them right for not working hard,think about that when you have a family member become a victim to drugs or gets shot over a couple of dollars.

[-] 1 points by TheSocialistRevolutionaryParty (14) from Paterson, NJ 12 years ago

and people wonder why they steal, sell drugs, bootleg cd's and dvd's.They don't have the skills to get a good job so they try to get it the only way they know how,breaking the law.So if your one of the people that are going to say it does them right for not working hard,think about that when you have a family member become a victim to drugs or gets shot over a couple of dollars.

[-] 1 points by Indy4Change (254) from Columbia, SC 12 years ago

It's a chicken/egg scenario in many cases. Many of them come from homes where it's all they know for survival. They don't look outside because they have been browbeaten into thinking the world is against them. Starr Parker almost fell prey to that mentality, but she was able to get herself out of that life - on her own. You could argue they have to steal because they can't get good jobs - someone else could just as easily argue they can't get good jobs because of their rap sheets.

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