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Posted 5 months ago on May 23, 2018, 9:12 a.m. EST by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX
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When the Dow is in record territory we know the bubble will soon burst. Investors' profits are inversely proportional to the health of the real economy of production and consumption of real goods.

The cyclic boom and bust has been accelerating since the slow steady conquest of the world by neo-liberalism in the past 50 years. To hide their crimes in plain sight, many neo libs have begun to claim there's no such thing as Neo-Liberalism and their political/economic ideology is in fact a science.

The political ideology of laissez-faire economics was largely debunked by the Great Depression. It's back and has grown to threaten our existence with its absurd promotion of the self interest of the ruling elite investors. What's good for Wall St. is bad for 90% of the population and all of the real production and consumption on which we exist. Great wealth in the pockets of the few is their god and neo-liberalism, no matter what it's called, is their profit. {stet}

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/05/yes-neoliberalism-thing-dont-let-economists-tell-otherwise.html

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[-] 1 points by howitworks (34) from Tucson, AZ 4 months ago

Capitalism is a fraud invented to continue the domination of feudal aristocrats.

[-] 1 points by schmoot (77) from Kerrville, TX 4 months ago

see also: From Debt Peons To Wage Slaves By Michael Hudson

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47174.htm

[-] 2 points by grapes (5196) 4 months ago

The adequate performance of most jobs doesn't need someone with the educational attainment of a college degree. Just because a fraction of the jobs is highly compensated and certainly requires a college education doesn't mean most jobs are in this catdgory.

In the olden days, vocational education had been used for side-tracking and pigeon-holing "undesirable" people so everyone was later encouraged to attend college to get their "opportunity." Nowadays with global competition, only certain types of college education are truly valuable in terms of being able to sustain a decent livelihood. These types are still "hard" subjects to study and selective of who can do well in them--there are built-in filters such as failing the bottom 20% of the students so that they will drop out. Many people end up instead with college education in "soft" unemployable subject majors, somewhat like the members of the high-social-status samurai class during the peaceful reigns of the shogunates of Japan, but with student debts and without living stipends.

The U.S. though long peaceful at home avoided this durian stagnation by having been very open to the entire world until very recently so there were always new ideas to think about, new areas of study, new technologies to mistress, new partnerships to pursue, etc. The U.S. offered fertile soil especially during wartime ( and the postwar "cleaning-up" operations that produced the transistor and electronic computers--allowing no curiosity or leisure and resources to pursue ideas means no inventions--traditional Japanese culture of "hammering down the stuck-up nail" excludes "the quirky nerdy sexy culture" of M.I.T. fucking to make the embryos of the World of Tomorrow right now and "the traitorous culture" of Silicon Valley and its Stanford University tune-in-then-dropout-to-become-captains-of-startups gold-digging-'49ers Olympian children of the Eastern Seaboard élites; the U.S. beats German Universities in faculty accessibility due to many U.S. professors' open-door walk-in office policy somewhat similar in the listening essence to the first Shogun Tokugawa Ieyasu's and their lacking the hierarchical "Herr culture" segregating the lowly classes of undergraduates and females from the researching full professors--German Universities did have a great apprenticeship-like shoulder-to-shoulder research collaboration between postdoctoral research associates, but Not undergraduates, and full professors and Germany's support for nearly Free higher education is legendary ) for growing new ideas to fruition: quantum theory and nuclear fission discovery from Denmark and Germany, magnetron for radar and feasibility computation for a uranium fission bomb from Great Britain. It was said by a professor of mine that the evacuation of Great Britain's treasures for winning WWII took place inside of a coat pocket. It was a very special relationship, indeed. Victory was built upon the Atlantic boneyard of the merchant navy in convoys whose personnel suffered higher casualty rates than the regular armed forces' war combatants. Yeah, Duke of Sussex Harry and Duchess Meghan ( sorry to see you lose U.S. Citizenship, especially the right to speak gibberish as I often do, "shooting the wholey spree"--privilege has its penalty,) the seminal as well as the (early) fiery relationship between the two nations divided by a common language went way back--best wishes to your future together!

I may very well be yelled at by the Liberals but I say that our genetic inheritance is a very significant determinant (probably >60%) of our raw potential. However, we certainly don't know how to control this production yet unlike the production of the seedlings of the successful Green Revolution so I agree with Thomas Jefferson that we should cast our net wide to include the less wealthy people's offspring in higher education despite their parents' lesser ability to pay. It's a social investment, not a "welfare" program. A seedling of talent is a terrible thing to waste!

Other countries with more socialist bent can achieve the livelihood provision with less than college-level educational training with far lower cost than the U.S. cost of a college education in a country-club rich-man's-world setting. A skilled machinist or a welder can make a good livelihood without college education but these skills are generally not taught in colleges. Germany does it better with internships bridging high-school-aged students to the working world because Germany is far more socialist than the U.S. I like the dossiér of the fruity kinkly Durian.

Long Endure the American Sweetie Stink!

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4060) 4 months ago

Just have to look at the want ads to see it! Really slim pickings as bad as 2008 even worse i'd say now since you have...door to door comcast sales ( we sure do need that internets to job search) ...plus uber or uber? Where do unemployed people who can't afford cars need rides to so often anyways? Comcast salesmen? I mean who is calling kurt russell in his death cab so often ? Strippers with a dui? I just can't figure it out. Ohhhhhh I get it drug dealers laundering money through uber while actually delivering drugs and giving strippers rides. Ding ding ding. By golly the girl is slow at arriving but arrive she does.

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4060) 4 months ago

https://thenextweb.com/contributors/2018/03/18/uber-ghost-rides-linked-online-money-laundering/

And con...firmed. So really what's hiring is well drug dealing and probably prostitution. Even dealers and pimps need internet so I guess Comcast too. Btw I know someone who did this...comcast never actually pays you and tell you your sales you do get don't count. Don't do it. Not only are you demoralized and yelled at...Comcast just plain frauds you ( as per their actual motto..."fuck you peons we are a mexican cartel whadidyou espect?)"

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33674) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 months ago

Media broadcasts disinformation http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/17/news/economy/us-middle-class-basics-study/index.html?sr=twmoney051718economy1104AMStory … While in REALITY: 51 million households don't earn enough 2 afford a monthly budget = housing, food, child care, health care, transportation & a cell phone. That's 43% of households in the United States.

[-] 2 points by elf3 (4060) 4 months ago

Makes for grouchy depressed people...but we are not supposed to feel negative anymore either the positivity propaganda police will tell you to take your f@#$ing with a smile.

**At some point the world will realize there are 500 or so of ruling elites...and 7 billion of us ...give or take a few.

The "Federal" bank is like Santa Claus once you realize he is made up...we stop leaving cookies and milk.**

The real problem are the minions...the people who carry out the dirty work of the one percent. The little sucker fishes cleaning big sharks teeth eating the crumbs and scraps of the victims. Those people...the scabs sell outs...the greedy little simps holding onto the sides of their robes: These are the people destroying our country and canabalizing our nation.

The merry go round is a quick ride matters little if you had toys or not or who had what...what we really have at the end of our days is who we are and what we have done and that last look in the mirror never lies. Death comes in one of two ways with peace or regret. There is no reset.

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

like the overseers on the plantations

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4060) 4 months ago

justification is the root of evil ...the lies we tell ourselves reveal themselves while we are dying. The suffering we cause others becomes our own. When all that is material fades and what is important makes itself known so utterly and completely - as we lay there dying and knowing...it is too late to change who we became. I can't say if there is karma or hell or even life after death...I can only imagine at that moment the infinite pain of finally having a clear picture of what life should have been but realizing how meaningless and how unfixable are the sad ways some people choose to live and that this choice is forever etched in stone. Changes can be too late for some.

Suffering lives on through the ages and generations long after a corvette is sitting in some junk yard... the slaves are in their unmarked graves still speaking to us today marking the injustice and outsmarting death while ...that party about nothing with all the boring fah fah competative conversations and hang overs fades out of memory...or that one night stand feels as cold and empty as a hangover in the shower.. The voices of the slaves are echoing their cries into eternity...while the slave owner is nothing but a grain of unremarkable sand. ... You may not know that now. But oneday on a day when it is too late I promise you will. All the wrongs we have done will confront us and eat away our last moments and will fill our last breath.

So drink up Wall Street...Ceo's...Banksters have another slice of cake please ...a few more toasts to the urchins in your employ and the homeless on the streets. Drink drink drink it up. Make a few more memories.

[-] -3 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

We should tax the rich and use the money to provide healthcare to everyone, that would help a little.

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

What a bunch of naked bullshit. senseless ramblings of a neo radical...

Projection is the operative.

Projection is what serves as vision for conservatives and all neo-liberal morons too.

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

so you you think taxing the rich is a bad idea?

or are you too stupid to have an actual conservation?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5196) 4 months ago

Taxing anyone is a bad idea if we cannot come up with the correct reason. The Brits have a far less expensive national healthcare system than we do and they are NOT alone. Pick just about any other developed countries and they do better on most statistical measures, better, cheaper, and faster for the majority of their populace.

Visiting a U.S. emergency room typically requires 2-3 hours after being triaged initially till a medical resident ( not even a fully fledged medical doctor but often a severely overworked, tired, sleepless for a long-long-time intern with backup on-call doctor's potential support should things go bad ) sees the patient and the visit is done ( then if there were any prescriptions we needed to find a damned car parking space again near a pharmacy--in other countries the pharmacy is often co-located so walking around the building is often all that is necessary to get to the pharmacy--one doesn't even need to worry about getting parking tickets because there are so many free government-owned parking spaces anyway.) It's because we as a country pretends to have a "heart" but is actually brainless or malevolent. The first question asked in any medical office here is "Do you have insurance?" "Did you have Aetna?" ..Who is Aetna?.. I don't know her. Hmm, it surely sounds like a woman alright.. but why does the receptionist want to know of my sex life?.. I d i d N O T have sexual intercourse with THAT woman. "No, I haven't fucked with Aetna lately!"

There is a lot of unnecessary fat in the U.S. medical insurance busy-ness. There are legions of medical coders ( these don't C nor Python!) agonizing over how to "code" patients' visits and/or services. There are insurance company death panels. There are hordes of opportunistic esquire-at-law vultures. There are poor carcasses. There are financial vampire squids. There are debt-collecting raptors. There are many many tests done because the doctors would not use their experience for best judgment calls.

I had seen better doctors abroad who were lightning fast and accurate in comparison with ours. What the hell is "a [sickly] illness?!" Kopfschmerzen is the reason for my headache! ( yeah, "globalization caused" the outsourcing of jobs and why Johnny has no orange juice, no Tang, no more Sunday family brunches... as his family slides away from full employment, to his home being burglarized, to becoming domestic refugees, to becoming enamored of a gun-reputation-secured neighborhood and disillusioned with the downscaling/long-commutes and a vague cringely sense of racial oppressiveness as if living under high-voltage electricity transmission cables.) Oh yes, the better doctors saw a lot of patients every working day so they were very experienced. They were on the public payroll and they had the government behind them as their insurance company so they were willing to exercise their best judgment rather than waiting for many many laboratory test results. Why ask about insurance when everyone is covered by the government ( at least for the initial screening?)

Freedom of choice was still available because anyone who disliked the basic-for-all service could just go for private and/or specialized services which required directly out-of-pocket expenditures. If my parents had stayed poor enough, I would probably have retained my prepuce intact due to government restraint. Hallelujah! I would have kept a retractable sheath to preserve the sensitivity of my Texas instrument. Maybe I wouldn't have been Judaic(Yosemite)/Christian Holy but I would certainly have qualified for being Pagan Holey! Having been inside of "a Cave of Wonders" and experienced "the Mystery of Life," I felt that being disqualified to be a virgin sacrifice was a blessing in disguise.

In managing my own health I have done better digging up and judging information intensively myself rather than seeing a doctor in this idiotic country called the U.S.A. Other people are not like I am so they should benefit from having publicly funded medical establishments which are tasked with managing the overall public health rather than counting the beans and maximizing the profits for the insurance companies without getting sued ( the Retards even tried to take away, curb, and limit this redress of grievances--however much I deplore the esquire-at-law vultures' tendency to stir things up unnecessarily, they do serve the vital function of recycling carcasses in the ecosystem.) Other countries get volume discounts on a national basis! In economics' terms, they have "the economy of scale." In the U.S., we have law prohibiting Medicare to bargain for lowering prices.

Despite being in a f f a i r e s for decades, our Orangutan misses the point again and again because he had NEVER experienced national healthcare himself. He is Totally out of touch. Although Both downunder Australia and Antarctica are desiccated continences, Never expect a desert toad to comprehend, not to mention appreciate, the poetry, beauty, and majesty of an Antarctican glacier by a wine-dark ocean glistening in the hovering sun under pinkish cirrus clouds!

Crickets are a Retard subject more within Mr. Toady's mental reach.

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

Taxing the rich as a means to address wealth inequality is an excellent idea. If you tax rich people to deliver healthcare it will get a lot more efficient very quickly, you just have motivate people the right way.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5196) 4 months ago

"If you tax rich people to deliver healthcare it will get a lot more efficient very quickly" seems to be all wet. Rich people will likely just absorb the tax while doing nothing to improve the efficiency of providing medical care.

In fact, rich people are causing problems in our current faking-it unrealistic idiotic system due to the law of diminishing marginal returns while raising unrealistic expectations in the rest of us. Yes, the Shah of Iran still DIED here in the U.S. although he had a lot of wealth to afford him the best medical care possible. Yes, the U.S. did NOT have any vaccine for Ebola when it got to New York and Dallas although people in West Africa had unrealistic expectations when the U.S. military showed up in West Africa to fight Ebola on the frontline. We had "the 'shithole' blindness" in being prepared for Ebola so we showed up late, duh!

Of course, we did partner with the real EXPERTS in fighting tropical diseases--the Cubans. Our military is superior in logistics and well prepared for fighting a biowar ( developed under the ominous tension and uncertainties created by Saddam Hussein's eventually very deadly to-many-people game with post-First-Gulf-War UN inspections for WMDs including his assassination attempt on the former CIA Director/President George H.W. Bush, the 9/11 attacks on WTCs/DC, and the anthrax terrorism, cf.@3:02-3:06 indicating it as being of domestic origin ) so they could set up ample infrastructure for fighting Ebola quickly but Cuba could field many tropical disease doctors due to the many decades long U.S. embargo against it. I think that the U.S. military showing up had more of an effect of "rallying the morale of the troops" to keep national borders open to medical personnel and equipments ( yep, we're in this fight together despite long-standing animosity ) than actually having a great impact on destroying Ebola itself directly because we arrived there rather late relative to some allies. However, our Patriots died to uphold a flag in the early years of our republic. A flag is really just a big colorful rag ( our bonds with each other as citizens carry more weight ) but its effect on morale is great so it counts in a war to provide a galvanizing focus. Eradicating the last large-scale outbreak's deadly human-hopping-mutant Ebola strain in West Africa was a success story for humanity cooperating to fight a common enemy of all.

We have bureaucracy that has become a lot less efficient when more resources were devoted to it. It does the same old thing, just with more people and expenses. Remember Economics' law of diminishing marginal returns? Yeah, our Universe is nonlinear sprung from linearity. Henceforth came my insistence on a correct reason for raising or cutting taxes.

My Mom told me a story about monks' labor sharing. One monk fetched two buckets of water with a yoke for himself ( one's own yoke, like education and/or technology, can double one's productivity in "fetching water." ) Two monks, after haggling about who should fetch the water with the yoke, compromised and hand-carried one bucket of water together to share. Three monks, after much haggling, still could not fetch any water because there were always the other two monks who could hand-carry the bucket of water together. Of course, each monk made the same smart calculation so ALL three had NO water. This illustrates why excessive Socialism failed and will fail again and again.

There are things which are naturally social projects such as providing for potable water. I was greatly surprised that Mexico is amongst the countries with the highest per capita consumption of bottled water. In the U.S., I drink water that flows straight out of the tap. Other countries' people only drink boiled water for sanitary reasons. Imagine each family boiling every day's water to drink. Imagine Mexicans paying separately for their water from a water truck. I surmise that the U.S. model is superior because it IS MORE socialist than Mexico's and those other countries' models.

The same can be said of the sewerage/wastewater disposal. In some countries, someone may be rinsing their chamber pot clean upstream and another one may be scooping up the water downstream to cook their meal. On a long hiking trip, I drank greatly diluted soapy bathwater from a woman bathing upstream. "Hmm, why am I still thirsty after drinking this mountain stream water?" "Yeah, me too, this water does taste a bit strange, don't you think?" After a short climb alongside the stream up the mountain valley away from the beach on the seashore, we saw a woman in swimming gear ( bikinis! What efficiency--God bless the inventor of these very environmentally Green less-is-more bikinis! ) bathing in the stream with soap. "Oh, look over there, a gorgeous wet woman--very Big tits!" "Yeah, but didn't we drink that water?" "Umm," potted water was dumped from all of our canteens. I immediately converted to Socialism despite the eye candy of "free enterprise:"

》Grabbelst du ihre Seife? 《

》Doch!《

"Though I drank of the water of the Valley of Boobs, the Lord was with me." I still think that I may very well be going to Hell for having consumed the eye candy of "free enterprise." I've got to learn from the Bible about King David's woman-spying misdeed to save myself from the sin of having stared at cleavage as I was alerted.

There was indeed a reason why these verses were in the daily prayer to the Lord: "And lead us not into temptation,/ But deliver us from the Evil One." The Lord's plan for us obviously includes temptation and the Evil One unless we implore the Lord to change it via our powerful prayer.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

Your ability to predict behavior is really bad, but it is also irrelevant, taxing the rich to provide healthcare is still a good idea.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5196) 4 months ago

The U.S. has the most expensive medical payment system in the entire world because we are the world's largest conglomeration of rich people in a single nation. We have no doubt been tolerating the long and supra-inflationary growth of the cost of sick care ( I wouldn't even call it health care because the state of our health shows it to be the obvious misnomer if we were to call it health care.)

We fancied ourselves being Marcos or the Shah of Iran. We expected perfection. In no other area of human endeavor has economics been defied as much as and as long as in the U.S. medical payment and care system. We pretend that everyone is priceless ( yep, infinities--good luck to anyone doing mathematics with infinities to manage a system with finite resources! ) so that we can contend that by sending them all to the hospital emergency room as a last resort discharges our moral and social responsibilities.

No, it doesn't work well. Other countries have nearly empty emergency rooms because they have other layers of providing care taking up the load. We have idiots who only gripe about the emergency room visiting people. We should be asking why I need to go to an emergency room and wait three hours for a not-yet fully fledged doctor to take a look at "an emergency." It's not an accident that "I have doctored the data" and "I have engineered a solution" have very different connotations. My Big Brother whom I appreciated for carrying me on his back across "the skeleton pit" got his butt spanked by Mom for doing his "engineering solution" to fix his bad school grades. He's not engineering but doctoral material!

Mom told me years afterwards ( when my brother had finally discovered my bout of terrible grades that qualified me as the rearguard leader in class ranking "broadening the base" at the instantaneously recognizable-by-any-Y-chromosome "Broad" Institute--I suspect that my total cluelessness saved my butt because I didn't even know whether the class ranking had been reported, or where ) that his bad grades did not trigger her anger but his attempt to pull the wool over her eyes did. She was stood up telling our neighbors and their children who were his classmates that he did well in school and she discovered the nature of his [doctored, not engineered] "good grades."

If a sick matter can wait till "three hours later," it's Not an "emergency." The fact is that fully fledged medical doctors generally don't work holidays or weekends, don't take certain insurance payments, don't do low-payoff general practice, busy haggling or dealing with "the referrals" with the insurance companies whose motivation is to deny all claims to maximize their profits, etc. so the emergency room is the shithole catching everything!

Insurance claims become litigation weed beds. Here's why Jews are hated so much because they are very much represented in the legal system. Who is the insurance company's lawyer? A Jew. Who is the judge? A Jew. Who denied the insurance claim? A Jew! People get conditioned by seeing all of this jewishness whenever they encounter problems. Jews are an arrogant people alright showing their faces of iniquity ( often for their White overlords who are unseen--the Brits know ) and it ticks other peoples off.

Why would medical care system suddenly get any better if the rich people are required to pay more? I know what I would do because I know that I couldn't change our system within my lifetime. I can afford it.

The Japanese-Zero-ed Hello:

 Though death and darkness gathered all about me,
 As my ship was split apart upon the seas.
 I've smelled again the fragrance of burning diesel,
 And rusty scent of blood that'd brought me once to thee.
[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

No it's expensive because it is profit driven.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5196) 4 months ago

False. We have lots of PROFIT-DRIVEN competitive markets whose prices are inexpensive. The prices have far more to do with the elasticity of supply and demand. Sick care is just not elastic, neither in supply nor in demand. It fits socialism's regulated control well.

The idiotic Retards pretend that they would be lying in a hospital bed dying and studying what angina pectoris, quadruple coronary bypass, electrocardiogram, magnetic resonance imaging, catheter insertion, are and how their prices compare with the other hospitals' prices. That's absolutely absurd! They murder people left and right, not just on this count but also on gun regulations in schools. Giving a handgun to a teacher doesn't protect the students well. We tried that with computer technology insertion into schools. It didn't work well. What we need in schools are well trained security guards. That can be done even without a law change because we already have school resource officers so we just want to get them swaggering with their guns in tote more often than their occasional intimidations of the parents and teachers. Banks, government buildings, private estates, etc. are all secured in this same way. If the idiots' arguments were valid, we should save some money by cutting the Secret Service and military's protection for the Durian and provide the King of Fruits with a shotgun and a Bible instead. Is it okay with the Secret Service to donate a Bible to the Durian since we are a secular Christian state? By the way, Satan was also a secular Christian.

The truth is that in my entire life, I have never met a bank which has just given guns to their managers and tellers instead of a security guard to protect it.

In sick care, socialism is superior, at least for basic care. I'm pretty sure that when the Earth nears its end of Anthropocene, the oxygen from the collapsed population of phytoplanktons will be extremely expensive due to our inelasticity of demand. Trying to stop breathing makes the point sink in.

Air, water, food, and sick care need some socialism's control because aside from our Retards, our moral values generally do not condone suffocating, desiccating, starving, or killing sick people. Rus China seems to have pioneered the sale of "clean" air although the West had pioneered the sale of "clean" water. It's the passing of the torch to burn this planet down. We love the Nazi propagandized ritual of the Olympic torch lighting!

The Nazis only did torch of electron jumps but Rus China did the far-superior-by-a-factor-of-a-million torch of nucleon jumps! It's Not plastics anymore. It's time to create the great future world of carbon. Wow! Is it really true that up to 92% of "the Chinese Crimeans" prefer the return of British rule? Even with the opium history?! Lasing a diamond "to become soot is Glorious!"

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

Profit driven systems require comparison shopping, it is absurd to have a profit driven health care system.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5196) 4 months ago

Yes, inelastic markets need social regulations. Basic sick care is inelastic on both the supply and demand side. I favor governmental restraint on paying for circumcisions although I had still lost my prepuce due to the influence of the erroneous belief of the secular Christian Empire. Was God circumcised? If yes, who did it? Was it a sacrilege to do that to God or to Man who was made in God's image? Hmm, is there a Durian-fruitcake dessert recipe with coco-a-nut milk?

Is there a difference between a secular Christian, a secular Muslim, and a secular Jew? I did a bit of research into the issue of the circumcision of God in the Holy Bible. After Noah's Flood, God set His rainbow in the sky as a sign of His Covenant with Noah, his family, and all of his descendants. God probably did not get His Prepuce cut because circumcision and offering by burning the foreskin was for affirming the Covenant. There would have been no need to set the rainbow had God's Prepuce been burnt in an offering. God was trying to signal that He wouldn't fuck us anymore as He was gay-tolerant by raising the rainbow high up in the sky like that flag at so many college fraternity houses.

Was Jesus, the Son of Man who was not only made in God's image but was God Himself, circumcised? Jesus being Jewish would have been circumcised but God was probably uncircumcised as my Bible study had revealed. Can the same person be Both circumcised and uncircumcised? I think it was quantum circumcision. How did Moses know that God was a He and not a She, It, or They? Did Moses take a good look down there on Mount Sinai Peninsula? My babysitter was a three-holer. What did Moses see? Is there a research grant coming to me from the paper-chase's Earth Pollution Agency to find out?

Maybe Lady Godiva can be ridden using a buggy whip to a chocolaty "rescue"; honey would be too blonde and racist. Illiterati are in charge of demolishing America and engulfing the World in flames. 》Präsident John Fitzgerald Kennedy ist "ein Berliner". Dame Godiva war ein Hamburger. Ich bin doch ein Frankfurter!《

I generally agree with using elastic markets for regulating economic distribution of goods and services as long as both supply and demand side can be transparent.

The simplest and easiest way to provide sick care is to make it universal and nearly free within the jurisdiction of the U.S.A. including tourists and immigrants, legal and illegal. If we cannot secure our borders, we do not have a country anyway. What does a country mean? A set of jurisdictions distinguished from others. Without the distinction, there is no country, by definition.

P.S. I've lived with National Healthcare as a child. I found it to be superior in basic care than what we have in the U.S.A. It's so much faster and vastly cheaper. Maybe not as good as the U.S. care for the Shah of Iran but I certainly haven't inspected every single wheat grain in great detail before I grind it up to make flour for my bread. Of course, the bread is a little bit higher quality if every single wheat grain that had gone into it were inspected in great detail. However, I eat an amount of bread that makes that impractical and totally ridiculous. I also have no problem with destroying all of our ACA bureaucratic contraptions ( I in fact will save money by not having to subsidize the sickly people amongst us although I still deplore our missed opportunity of getting National Healthcare done right due to Indonesian helplessness/fatalism, Hawaiian hanging loose, Demonkrapts' train robbers, and Retards' feet dragging and train bombings to murder our people ) because just about anyone can afford the sick care that I use: none by staying healthy with good health habits, keeping up-to-date with health research study results, and LISTENING TO MY BODY AND ACT ACCORDINGLY!

Of course, what's good for the gander may not be good for the goose. Since I have had experience with superior National Healthcare, I recommend it be adopted to serve the most of our people and the most of their needs in accordance with the utilitarian principle.

You can probably figure out by now that I am culturally from Yankeedom and New Netherland, a bit more from the latter than the former. Coming with Yankeedom's idealism and patriotism, I want social transformations for the bettering of my people but I still savor the diversity coming from my New Netherland cultural heritage ( we got far better off being different and traded with each other--New York didn't become a cosmopolitan powerhouse by being homogeneous but its different parts could still work reasonably well together--unequal but generally far more prosperous than imposing involuntary equality.) Let the wealthy people spend their money and time inspecting every wheat grain in detail to make their bread. Let the others who don't have as much money get fast and cheap but still decent sick care although definitely not the best possible ( after all not everyone should be treated as well as the Shah of Iran in medical care.)

I consider it extremely silly to optimize for everything and end up wasting my life on squeezing out that last bit of quality from everything. I know that life is more than about optimization because everyone's resources are finite so life must be a balancing act. Healthcare is an extremely significant portion of our economy so I am realistic about how quickly we can change its course and direction. I think that moving it onto a different track over one generation ( 25 years ) seems comfortably and safely achievable.

We shouldn't follow Rus Drago to use our hospitals as last-chance human-body garages and sales offices for the dearth panels (which "code" people for death, such as "DNR" designations and dearth/floor manifestations), creamatories, morgues, and funneral homes. Since "the turkeys have voted for Thanksgiving," we have NO MORE broth e l s in New York--we broth e r s have "family values" so we only have Durian-style 19th-hole fucking homes!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

I generally don't read your non-responsive gibberish, grapes.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5196) 4 months ago

New Amsterdam values apply so it's just fine--same as when I got a parking ticket from Jew Jerk.

Beware of the redlight monitoring cameras. It's best to slam the car brakes hard before redlights to collect car insurance when in Jew Jerk. Learn from "Federal" " Express" outlaw drivers how to flaunt.

Why pardon oneself? For the pleasure of auto-fellatio, of course. Men are generally two holers but women are generally three holers. Here's the method by which I had saved my own butt from being spanked due to my rearguard leadership 'broadening the base': total cluelessness. Neither did I "engineer a solution," nor did I "doctor the data." I don't know nothing! 》Meine Lehrer sprachen Kauderwelsch.《

It may work better than lashing out because even the American Shogun, Douglas MacArthur, was fired when he had contemplated crossing the Yalu River to widen the Korean Conflict. There were thought police. I had a Big Brother's back to climb onto, to cross over "the skeleton pit," you know. Silence is pootinium.

I had never mentioned to my Mom or my Big Brother that I would or could "pardon myself" for my bout of bad grades. Did I "know" that my grades were bad? I had an inkling alright but was I ever convicted due to them for a spanking that warranted a pardon (which demands a conviction first)? Absolutely not, the evidence was absent, maybe due to my not having broached this subject at all so it was out of sight and out of mind until no one cared anymore about my Big Brother's "discovery." On a voyage home, it was just "an anomaly!"

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

profit is the root of evil!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

that could be an overgeneralization

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

not if it's made by the work of others, which all employers do.

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

How will you convince the sellout Democrat idiots, much less the Republican morons, to raise taxes on their [and our] rich patron/masters? Project and rave on about nonsensical bullshit!

By the way: I'll say what I want where I want and when I want. In your face!

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

and from what I read in your replies you wish to reserve that right to yourself?

and yourself only?

and to think I called you an ego whore what was I thinking?

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

that vision is all projection. want to see a real ego whore. look in the mirror.

Why did you only answer the jibe at the end and ignore the important part of the comment: the sellout Dem idiots, Repu morons the owners of both.

as far as me reserving the right to free speech to myself, you're just pouting because you wish you'd said it first and right now you're probably pretending to yourself that somehow you did say it first. no doubt that conflict between your self image and what you really are is all in your subconscious.

so I guess it's less ego and more id that consumes you!

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

You've never written anything I wish I'd said, you are a terrible writer.

I have told you many times you don't "convince" them you change them in the primaries, and you defeat the GOP.

But you love the GOP and work to elect them every day.

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

You got id!

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

How is: "What a bunch of naked bullshit. senseless ramblings of a neo radical..." part of "an actual conversation" about anything? Much less does it follow w.r.t. the post about real economy vs. the FIRE sector fraud that effects the concentration of wealth with the Wall St. oligarchs who own the GOP and the dems and most of everything and everyone else on Earth.

So I repeat: "Projection is what serves as vision for conservatives and all neo-liberal morons too." And projection constitutes your vision too, moron!

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

your post was rambling bullshit and telling you that is constitutive criticism, and yes you are a "neo-radical" you want to just keep doing what "radicals" have always done following ego whores down the rabbit hole, a truly radical idea like killing the GOP is beyond your very limited understanding and how doing that would bring down the entire ladder of power because they the two legs depend on each other, you can't bring down a ladder by pushing on the top the two legs support each other but if you take out a leg ie the GOP then the ladder will fall, but this concept is far too truly radical for a neo-radical like you....

are you confused as to how the forum works? you talking about a comment that is actually down below, you can reply there if your not too chickenshit, and we can discuse your brusied ego, I know you Greens care a lot about your egos, but this comment is about taxing the rich, do you have any thought about that? or are you still tending to your ego?

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

Your genius is undeniable! Please, hit me again. I love it. Soon you'll have corrected all my errors with your astute assaults on my faulty state of mind. I'm almost convinced. Don't let up. You're almost there. If you continue the relentless attack you're sure to win hearts and minds to your way.

I am confused about one thing. Maybe your genius will have the answer? How will you convince the sellout Democrat idiots, much less the Republican morons, to raise taxes on their [and our] rich patron/masters? Project and rave on about nonsensical bullshit!

[-] 1 points by grapes (5196) 4 months ago

I support raising taxes on the rich to pay for the upcoming war. The U.S. cannot shield rulers from their own peoples because the U.S. has been criticized many times before for supporting repressive regimes. Rulers make their own kinds of beds ( feathered or even coffins ) so they shall lie in them themselves. Moammar Gadhafi ( the man with the golden gun who had refused to go into exile ) and Saddam Hussein ( Kilauea: you only live twice "well, he had died on the job" "he'd wanted it this way" ) were executed by their own peoples. It's karma. There are prophesies.

Gadhafi had his inexperienced son in charge of the fight against the rebels retreating to Benghazi. The hawkish son stated that he would shut off water to the very populous city and threatened to commit genocide on the city ( "kill everyone.") The Libyan U.N. ambassador lobbied for international intervention to avert the coming genocide in his country. The rest is history. It was nepotism.

Saddam Hussein after the First Gulf War kept on playing games with the weapon inspection regiment imposed as a condition of the ceasefire. Being a former director of the CIA which had supported Saddam Hussein fighting against Iraq, George H.W. Bush was the target of an assassination attempt when he visited Kuwait. After 9/11, his inexperienced and hawkish son decided to take out the garbage. The rest is history. It was also nepotism.

We should raise taxes on the rich for the coming war which will also be due to nepotism.

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

so do I. but that's easier said than done. And it will never be done, though it may be talked about, by the sellout Demo[n]crats or the Repugnicants. As far as the Greens are concerned, I haven't voted for one in the past ten years. Neither will I until one has a serious chance or the Democrat (in name only) has no chance.

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

as long as people like you are there to keep the GOP in office we will never know what could happen...

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

Why not raise taxes on the rich to pay for healthcare?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5196) 4 months ago

There's far more than enough money going into medical insurance busy-ness. There's NO reason to demand more taxes from anyone to enrich already very well-off FIRE people more. "Anyone" includes the rich whom you had suggested.

I'm looking forward to the results of the Amazon experiment on their employees' healthcare. Amazon's logistics ( I used to like Walmart decades ago but Amazon had done even better on its cost structure and phenomenal topline growth ) is run very efficiently so its being located primarily in the U.S. can give us a good indication of what may be achieved for healthcare in the native U.S. environment. Yes, someday Amazon may well be able to sell this to the U.S. government as a pretested cost-saving solution for our national medical idiocy.

Orangutan unsurprisingly made the Swamp bigger and deeper so building it better with real Amazonian expertise makes much sense ( Amazon is the biggest swamp in the world with the largest snake, the anaconda. Yeah, even Florida's Burmese Python can just get lost.)

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

You are simply wrong about taxes the rich are taxed way too little in America that's why they demand so much from their workers, we must right the ship restore the Eisenhower rates that led to great economy of the 60's.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

well I didn't say anything about MORE money there would be less because it would be cheaper, but as you tax the rich to pay for it then the premiums go away, so it is NOT pumping more money into it just cut out all the red tape that wastes money....

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

you vote the GOP out of office by NOT throwing your vote in the toilet and you take control of the dems through the primaries...

however there will always be stupid ego whores working to stop real change....

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

I'm sure, because of your care not to alienate potential supporters, that everyone will now rally to your call for democratic action.

You make it sound so simple. As always, it's easier said than done.

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

I understand that you are newbie and all but my tone was developed talking about elections with Green party supporters like Shadz and by comparison I am VERY polite, you should have been around when the Green Party ego whores were runing off all the radicals.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

You need to get your facts straight, newbie!

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[-] -3 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

A lot of people signed up early on put didn't do much, like you, but then if you were here then you would know how people who wanted to stop the GOP were treated by the Green Party ego whores, you would know that I am FAR too nice to the shithead Greens.

You must really love what the GOP do when they get elected, given how hard you work to get them elected.

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (2191) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 months ago

Id always works overtime!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

Trump couldn't do it without YOU!

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8331) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

What a bunch of naked bullshit.

senseless ramblings of a neo radical...