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Forum Post: Congress Reaches a Budget Deal and Conservatives Already Hate It

Posted 10 months ago on Dec. 10, 2013, 10:20 p.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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The proposal covers the rise in spending by increasing a few fees—TSA surcharges for example—and cuts in pensions for federal employees and military veterans, among other small changes.* The deal creates a little more than $20 billion in net deficit reduction, though those extra cuts won't come until 2022 and 2023. The agreement doesn't close any tax loopholes, as Democrats originally sought, nor does it extend long-term unemployment insurance. It's no grand bargain, just a puny accord meant to avoid the turmoil of October's shutdown.

Despite the limited aims of the deal, conservatives—both Tea Party members of the House and outside groups—began complaining before negotiators released the proposal. FreedomWorks denounced the concept behind such a deal on Tuesday. Heritage Action, the outreach arm of the conservative think tank, lambasted the early reports of a deal. The Wall Street Journal op-ed page hammered the "defense hawks and appropriators who want to break the annual spending caps in current law." A cohort of 18 of House Republicans wrote a letter calling on House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to ignore the potential deal and vote on a "clean" budget resolution. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/12/ryan-murray-budget-deal-congress-conservatives-revolt#correction

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 months ago

FY 2014*: $744 billion http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html

I they save 20 in ten years

that's 2/75 = 2.7 %

is our economy really based on the small percentage difference

no

money seems to be a lot more complex (fabricated)

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 months ago

A government runs on a taxes

duh

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26307) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 months ago

What's ta Hate?

Oh - riiight

Social Security still exists..................

[-] -3 points by doctoroftruth (-4) from New York, NY 10 months ago

meh

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 months ago

Looks to me like more of the (R)epelican't ring of the circus.

The do nothing congress, that "almost" did something, but not quite.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/20489-congress-blew-it-again-the-national-budget-should-reflect-national-priorities#13867754909181&action=collapse_widget&id=3772294

At the end, you will find a petition demanding that they get off their prodigious asses and actually do something.

https://www.change.org/petitions/senator-patty-murray-representative-paul-ryan-listen-to-what-americans-want

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Currently, the right wing dirtbags are having a knipshit. That way they can pretend that they actually lost something here. In reality, Murray just told a shit load of people to bend over and she gets to walk around with the "bipartisan label".

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 months ago

Marketing wise, it makes them look all shiny.

In hopes of quelling the background reality of raping pensions all over the country.

http://www.alternet.org/node/934912

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

The problem is that it doesn't make them look shiny. It looks like they bowed down to the Heritage Foundation. Federal employees had a 3 year pay freeze and many were furloughed and now they want to fuck them on pensions. Veterans? Not enough to kick 170,000 off SNAP.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 months ago

It remains to be seen, who will publish their press releases.

Keep in mind that neither of us pays much attention to the MSM.

The simple truth, is that most Americans have no idea what Heritage is, or what it does.

Ask around and you will find that few people you meet in your every day affairs, have ever heard of the SPN.

Very few.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Actually, in my every day life a lot of people have heard of SPN.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 months ago

Then you live in a much more enlightened area that I do.

Most around here blink in disbelief, at explanations of ALEC.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Haha. No, I just manage to surround myself, much of the time with a liberal crowd. The Guardian recently came out with an article on SPN and they are slower than most. At any rate the responses indicated that there are a lot more that are aware of who they are.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 months ago

Around here, it's easier to find a football nut...........:)

Here's a little on the Mackinac Center.

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/12/12325/state-policy-network-stealth-network-dramatically-influencing-state-law

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

These clowns are flat out insane.

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Ya, I hope they run that asswipe. It isn't looking good for these clowns.

Also, they are failing in their wimmins outreach attempts.

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

These guys have been busy. Drugs, child porn............moronic dipshits need all the help they can get.

I'll go get the popcorn.

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Did you see the SNL skit on Lara Logan and Mayor Ford? http://gawker.com/snl-brilliantly-skewers-rob-ford-and-60-minutes-1466244469

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

It nailed Logan Rightly so. That's what happens when you pander to the crazy.

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[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if it went higher. This isn't the first time that there has been an issue with this show. I agree CBS is right leaning. Logan gave a half-ass apology afterwards. But here is the kicker, Dylan Davies wrote a book. The book was published by a subsidiary of CBS: Simon & Schuster. So, not only did Logan and CBS have to do some 'splaining but Simon & Schuster came under fire.

Ordinarily all this would be a big eye roll. Surprise, surprise, surprise it's all a lie and you guys got nuttin'. Again.

'Cept Sen. Lindsey Graham seems a bit lost here

This entire episode is jacked because Issa and Co. wasted both time and money for spin and BS. Again. An awful lot of people fell for Issa's call for investigations. Again. Several on this forum either believed this crap or were paid to spin it.

So, the big question for CBS is, In your attempt to compete, are you willing to lose all of your credibility? Do you win by competing with Faux News? Are you so interested in tapping into the cash cow that right wing propaganda has become that you sacrifice everything? Because this will harm not just you but whatever other forms of media that your paws are in.

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (19584) from South Burlington, VT 11 minutes ago

No seriously - she's had a really shitty year. I've no idea how this whole thing came about, and probably she has a lot of the responsibility for it - I dunno.

After all of her various spots on the troops I guess I just kinda wonder how she got onto this clown - who recommended him, and why didn't she act to protect her story and her reputation?

I haven't been concerned enough to research it at all - I dunno. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink


They wanted to dance with the devil and pander to the lunatics and they got called on it. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/11/03/cbs-eyewitness-admits-he-lied-about-benghazi-at/196725

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Sure.

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[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 10 months ago

The NSA agenda is to put the wind up everyone.

Americans need to ask why exactly is it legitimate to have a foreign organisation on the taxpayer's payroll in the first instance.

And in the second, why is this org not bound by US law?

[-] 0 points by Spartacus14 (102) from Boulder, CO 10 months ago

..."why is this organization not bound by US law?

That's 'cause just as we have a fiat currency, we also have a fiat justice system.

Or a better way to put it is, we make it up as we go along.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 10 months ago

This looks like it was "made up" well before 2009.

(quote) The five-page memorandum, termed an agreement between the US and Israeli intelligence agencies "pertaining to the protection of US persons", repeatedly stresses the constitutional rights of Americans to privacy and the need for Israeli intelligence staff to respect these rights.

But this is undermined by the disclosure that Israel is allowed to receive "raw Sigint" – signal intelligence. The memorandum says: "Raw Sigint includes, but is not limited to, unevaluated and unminimized transcripts, gists, facsimiles, telex, voice and Digital Network Intelligence metadata and content."

According to the agreement, the intelligence being shared would not be filtered in advance by NSA analysts to remove US communications. "NSA routinely sends ISNU [the Israeli Sigint National Unit] minimized and unminimized raw collection", it says.

Although the memorandum is explicit in saying the material had to be handled in accordance with US law, and that the Israelis agreed not to deliberately target Americans identified in the data, these rules are not backed up by legal obligations.(unquote)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2013/9/11/1378909850994/newtear2-001.jpg

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 10 months ago

Honestly, anyone who even thinks that there is an economy worthy of consideration is blindingly dufous.

When the fed res gets away with creating 16 trillion for their European cronies, and the natives don't bat an eyelid, it's a free-for-all economy.

Come and help yourself to some millions. Or buy a good printer, and make your own.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

And on the budget? Nothing?

Of course not.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 10 months ago

What fucking budget??

Did you not comprehend the post?

Nobody cares about your bourgening debt issues.

Say sayonara to ever showing a cash surplus in the US economy.

Debt slavery, all the way.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

The fucking budget that is cutting Vet's pensions. Did you not comprehend the post?

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 10 months ago

Bootus rootus, Darling.

You're not fucked, but your govt is.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Your ignorance is astounding. Please, by all means, say more shit that is meaningless.

Keep downvoting. You know it's true.

[-] 4 points by Builder (4202) 10 months ago

I'd not waste a click on downvoting.

Unlike your good self, I'm not fixated on this site.

Congress doesn't "reach deals". It takes bribes.

As a paid hack, you don't need me to tell you these things.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Paid for what? You're the fucking plant a garden imbecile.