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Posted 1 year ago on July 4, 2013, 5:46 p.m. EST by ericweiss (575)
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Southern Fried Christian Sharia By Tina Dupuy

Republican North Carolina state legislators introduced what was described as an anti-Sharia law bill this week. The concern was a religion would trump our laws—threaten our constitution. This religion, they fear, would dictate our rights and punish dissent. It would blur the lines between church and state! Women would be subjugated! This is such a threat North Carolina lawmakers must act posthaste!

Then with absolutely zero appreciation for irony, the Republican state senate amended the bill to secretly restrict access to legal and constitutionally-protected abortion.

Why? Their religious convictions.

Nice tactic: Scare people with the specter of Islamic totalitarianism and then pass a bill that would make Pakistan pause. I see what you did there.

Religion is the sand Republicans throw in someone's face before you rob them. Disorient the target to reach your goal faster. Christianity has been used to justify everything from the crusades, sectarian wars and inquisitions, to witch burnings, cross burnings and Christian rock. The idea that it would be a better basis for a free country isn't supported by history.

Theology makes for horrible government. (See: every theocracy ever. – and Egypt ) No matter how wonderful it seems, in theory, for everyone to be of the same religion—praying the same way to the same god—it never ends with expansive human rights for all people.
Religion is subjective, selective and discriminating—it's the opposite of democracy. No matter if it's Christianity, or Islam, or Gluten-Freeism.

Which is why the U.S. Constitution is the framework for a secular government. To paraphrase Winston Churchill, secular government is the worst form of government except for all those other ones that have been tried. This week in the trial of George Zimmerman the jury watched the exclusive interview he did last July with Sean Hannity of Fox News. When asked if the 28-year-old regretted killing a teenager, Zimmerman said it was god's plan and he wasn't going to second guess him. God wanted an innocent unarmed 17-year-old to be shot to death by a wannabe cop? Indefensible acts have a defense in religion. And that's a rickety basis for a government.

An overlooked but compelling factor in the ousting of year-long Egyptian president, Mohamed Morsi, was that his denial of "democratic freedoms" in the name of religion left him with few supporters. Two weeks ago, Morsi, a leader in the Muslim Brotherhood called for a holy war in Syria. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad (not a champion of human rights by any stretch) said: "The summary of what is happening in Egypt is the fall of what is called political Islam."

Add that to the list of why my religion, your religion, or anyone else's religion shouldn't be imposed legislatively. Lutherans and Methodists can't agree on confessionals—which version of Christianity is the one you want writing laws? The answer: None of them.

On the home front, Texas Governor Rick Perry (R) called a special session this week to yet again try to pass a bill that would essentially shut down most women's health clinics in the state. This fundamentalist-fueled pro-birth zealotry is sponsored by state lawmaker Jodie Laubenberg (R), who claims rape kits in ERs are "where a woman can get cleaned out." Which is like saying a breathalyzer test will sober you up. Mind-bogglingly stupid.

But this battle is not about facts; it's about ending what Governor Oops thinks is objectionable based on his religion. No room for science. No room for data. No room for sound public policy based on egalitarian principles.
God's will—women are public incubators. Our private parts are up to public approval. Our reproductive ability trumps our constitutional rights.

In Texas they want to deregulate everything except the womb. Why? Because religious fervor is being selectively applied to reproductive rights. And this fervor is subjugating women, punishing dissent and blurring the lines between church and state. But at least it's not Sharia!

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[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Good Article - even if One were to just read this paragraph:

Another argument for separation involves the amount of taxpayer dollars that go to red states (the South) versus blue states (the North). According to Alternet, the South, “home to nine of the nation’s 10 poorest states, is rabidly against government spending, yet all of its states get far more in government subsidies than they give back in taxes.” In short, conservative states are welfare states that benefit from the tax paying blue states. As it turns out, liberals have been supporting conservatives financially this whole time and not the other way around. That means conservative states are parasites even while they accuse liberal states of being lazy.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/05/how-southern-states-are-harming-america-and-what-we-can-do-about-it/

Thanks.

But this is also a good following paragraph to consider as well:

So would separating into two different countries solve our problems? The answer is, no. Yes, the North and South are divided along political, economic, and social lines. But that will not make both sides happier. The problem with this argument is that there are conservatives in the North, and there are liberals in the South. Is the South going to transfer political opponents to the North and vise versa? Certainly not. What would more than likely occur is that the South will likely oppress liberals, African-Americans, Latinos, and women in worse ways than they do now. The only thing stopping them from doing so currently is federal law and the judicial system. Sure, the Supreme Court wrongly gutted the Voting Rights Act, which will allow Southern states to suppress the vote of those they hate even more than in the last 40 years. But remedies still remain to challenge oppression and suppression. It’s wrong to abandon half of the nation’s citizenry simply because we disagree.

[-] 2 points by shooz (18019) 1 year ago

The gutting of the VRA, will have repercussions we are not yet aware of.

It will make any remedies harder to apply.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Will add more crap and contention into every following election.

[-] 2 points by shooz (18019) 1 year ago

That??.......................You can bet on!

As if the last one wasn't bad enough.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

As if the last one wasn't bad enough.

This country is in seriously bad shape - if people can not see it - then they are being willfully blind.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Chief Justice John Roberts, the man who appointed ALL of the judges to the FISA court

Official_roberts_CJEven before this session the Supreme Court, the Roberts “Citizens United” Court had already demonstrated an frightening willingness to rule on the behalf of corporations whenever possible.

Senator Elizabeth Warren recently noted the 70% win rate of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce — America’s largest business lobby — with the Roberts Court and said, “Follow this pro-business trend to its obvious conclusion and you will end up with a Supreme Court that’s a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Chamber of Commerce.”

Ya mean they aren't? The F'n bought assholes.


Texas Lawmakers Too Busy Targeting Abortion Providers to Deal With Exploding Fertilizer Plants Seeded by CuriousG View Original Article: SOURCE FAVICONMotherJones.com Seeded on Sat Jul 6, 2013 6:03 AM

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In the two and a half months since an explosion at a West, Texas, fertilizer storage facility left 12 first responders dead and at least 200 people injured, two things have become clear. The disaster could have been avoided if the proper regulations had been in place and enforced—and state and federal agencies don't appear to be in a hurry to put those regulations in place or enforce them.

Sad to say Binnezz be untouchable these days.


The West Texas Fertilizer Plant Explosion Was Not a Freak Event

Greenpeace has listed 483 chemical facilities in the U.S. where 100,000 or more would be at risk from explosions

West, Texas explosion

FERTILE GROUND FOR DISASTER: Many people may not realize that what happened on April 17, 2013 in the town of West, Texas—a fertilizer plant with an unreported large stockpile of explosive ammonium nitrate blew up, killing 14 and rendering hundreds of others injured and homeless—could happen almost anywhere. Image: Shane Torgerson

Dear EarthTalk: The recent explosion at the West, Texas, fertilizer plant that killed many people really alarmed me. Places like this must exist near many communities around the country. How do I know if my own community might be at risk of a similar disaster?—Mary Cyr, Sarasota, Fla.

Many people may not realize that what happened on April 17, 2013 in the town of West, Texas—a fertilizer plant with an unreported large stockpile of explosive ammonium nitrate blew up, killing 14 and rendering hundreds of others injured and homeless—could happen almost anywhere.

JUST HEART WARMING ..... NO ...... sorry just my ulcer.

[-] 1 points by ericweiss (575) 1 year ago

to quote my friend ebineezer, exploding fertilizer plants will "decrease the surplus population"

[-] 1 points by shooz (18019) 1 year ago

This ought to warm your heart a little bit more.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014529266

Or if you prefer it from the NYT?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/us/in-secret-court-vastly-broadens-powers-of-nsa.html?hpw&_r=0

Still think the SCUTUS doesn't matter?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Gosh thanks - secret courts - wonderF'nful. That does make my ulcer glow.

[-] 1 points by shooz (18019) 1 year ago

Secret courts, run by John Roberts "conse(R)vative" appointees, I think it's VERY important to add.

Citizens united, to profit from our "surveillance".

Fully endorsed by the guy that gifted us with "Citizens United" in the first place.

Talk about double dipping.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Wonder what his karma is gonna do to him when it finally catches up. Ya gotta figure that this ass is likely to be looked upon as the worst "justice" in the history of the USA to this point in time. Here-ye Here-ye all rise and spit at the bench as Injustice Roberts enters.

[-] 2 points by shooz (18019) 1 year ago

The news is spreading.

http://bangordailynews.com/2013/07/06/politics/did-you-know-john-roberts-is-also-chief-justice-of-the-nsas-surveillance-state/?ref=latest

But will anyone listen and understand, just how much power this "justice" has?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 2 points by shooz (20562) 5 minutes ago

Ask around, and you'll be surprised by many people have no idea who he is, nor what he's done.

They're as likely to confuse him with this guy, from Bob's Burgers.

https://www.google.com/search?q=john+roberts+comedian&client=firefox-beta&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=uOLaUa_oBKmlyAG2joCgCg&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=1015

↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

Ahh yes the terminally boob-tubed.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I think so - things are getting so insanely out of control - question is - will enough people wake-up soon enough?

[-] 2 points by shooz (18019) 1 year ago

There are many who would place the blame elsewhere.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 2 points by shooz (20550) 4 minutes ago

There are many who would place the blame elsewhere.

↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

And every day that goes by - "they" stand out clearer as being part of the problem.

[-] 2 points by shooz (18019) 1 year ago

Ask around, and you'll be surprised by many people have no idea who he is, nor what he's done.

They're as likely to confuse him with this guy, from Bob's Burgers.

https://www.google.com/search?q=john+roberts+comedian&client=firefox-beta&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=uOLaUa_oBKmlyAG2joCgCg&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=1015

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Perhaps billboards could be placed in strategic locations - saying something like:

Rage Against The Machine - Don't Be A Stepford Wife. Curious as to what a stepford wife is? Watch the movie. If You Are Allowed To.

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[+] -4 points by Stormcrow2 (-184) 1 year ago

Hey the federal government does this all the time. Look at the Obama care bill as a prime example of just how people were deceived by what was in it. Like Nancy Pelosi said - lets wait until it passes before we can see what's in it.

[-] 4 points by ZenDog (13707) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

The federal government did not exclaim: It is God's Will as it passed the health care legislation.

Health care legislation was not passed in an effort to place women, or any other specific demographic under control.

Health care legislation was endorsed because of the dire need to control costs and to provide greater access to healthcare nationwide.

What we really need is a single payer option. Those whose fear of the single payer option is simply irrational should be medicated and so mollified.

Those who oppose equity and accountability should be taken out and shot, as a lesson to all those who would take profits to our national harm.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

EDIT:

Right-ON

Though - "to our national harm" - I perhaps would state it as - "to our World wide sickness death & destruction"

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13707) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

ummm . . . . hmmm . . . .

< ahem >

word has it you have standing around here DK. When I say we should go out and shoot someone, you can pretty much take it fore granted that not one single human being is in any immediate danger from my hands - but I do not think that is the only consideration here. There is also the reputation and name of the forum itself.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

BTW - Edited:

EDIT:

Right-ON

Though - "to our national harm" - I perhaps would state it as - "to our World wide sickness death & destruction"

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

ummm . . . . hmmm . . . .

I've got standing??? I want a chair. {;-])

I'm not a violent person and no one is in danger from me. But sheesh - - can ya blame a guy for saying that sounds like it would be a good thing for all concerned? I do not and never have advocated violence - and I never will. I did take into account who the author was.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13707) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I know you did DK - my point was that responsibility makes its own demands.

That is why I eschew responsibility at every turn.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

That is why I eschew responsibility at every turn.

OH - I doubt that.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

"Health care legislation was not passed in an effort to place women, or any other specific demographic under control."

It was passed to put everyone under more control.

"Health care legislation was endorsed because of the dire need to control costs and to provide greater access to healthcare nationwide."

Insurance companies care about profits, not costs. They wrote it.

"What we really need is a single payer option."

100% true. Expansion of medicaid could have done this. Or maybe perhaps, just maybe someday our masters would give us the same level of care they get.

"Those who oppose equity and accountability should be taken out and shot, as a lesson to all those who would take profits to our national harm."

Thats a bit much. Opposing accountability is an opinion. Just as our opinions are different on what this legislation means and who actually wrote it, and then who is held accountable.

[-] -3 points by Stormcrow2 (-184) 1 year ago

Oh but you are wrong - if Obama HC was passed to control costs and provide greater HC nationwide, why is it that the younger generation want no part of it? Why is it that small businesses HC costs went up 25% within the last year?

[-] 4 points by ZenDog (13707) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

why is it that the younger generation want no part of it?

at a guess I would call it good salemanship on the part of neo.nimrod.enoids intent on sabotaging everything the Black Man in the White House ever does.

Why is it that small businesses HC costs went up 25% within the last year?

at a guess I would call it good salemanship on the part of neo.nimrod.enoids intent on sabotaging everything the Black Man in the White House ever does.

and you are obviously either sold, or a not so clever neo.nimrod.enoid . . .

[-] -2 points by Stormcrow2 (-184) 1 year ago

Obama health czar: Obamacare is driving up insurance rates before it drives them down

President Obama’s health care adviser during the Obamacare debate admitted that health insurance rates are rising in anticipation of the implementation of the health care law, but argued that it’s because the law will lower rates later.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-health-czar-obamacare-is-driving-up-insurance-rates-before-it-drives-them-down/article/2518484

Young Americans may dodge health law For 20-somethings, penalty may be preferable to buying insurance

And as more young people do the math, more seem to be deciding the Affordable Care Act isn’t such a good deal for them: Support for a national health-care plan dropped nearly 11% among American college freshmen between 2008 to 2012, with under 63% in favor of it today, down from 70%, according to UCLA’s annual student survey.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/young-americans-may-dodge-health-law-2013-06-26

[-] -2 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

A simple increase in the medicaid level to, say, 40k per year per person, along with the 10 pages of previous conditions legislation would have been fine.

The rest is pure fascist propaganda written by the insurance companies themselves, among other corporations.

Costs are going up rapidly because there is no reason to contain them now. They have a guaranteed pool and costs for the corporations can be subsidized through the tax payers, by direct taxation of the individual regardless of his/her thoughts or views, need for care, level of health, or total billings since entering the system.

I'm sure that big Pharma is excited about all of this too.

[-] 1 points by ericweiss (575) 1 year ago

If your healthcare cap has been exceeded or if you have a 24 year old child or if your insurance company sent you a rebate check, you do want Obamacare repealed

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34858) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

You can thank the corp(se)oRATists in office for much of what is wrong with the ACA. Boner, Bitch & Can'tor being some of the chief among them.