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Forum Post: Communist, Nazis and Islamist support OWS. Where is J.Edjar Hoover when you need him?

Posted 2 years ago on Jan. 27, 2012, 11:12 a.m. EST by Carlitini99 (-167)
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Adding their support to that of the American Nazi Party and the American Communist Party, a group of Islamist radicals representing the Council on American-Islamic Relations showed up at Occupy Wall Street.

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[-] 4 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 2 years ago

The guys on Wall Street ARE NOT WINNING – THEY ARE CHEATING. And as much as we love the self-made success story, we hate the cheater that much more.

In this country, we cheer for people who hit their own home runs – not shortcut-chasing juicers like Bonds and McGwire, Blankfein and Dimon.

That's why it's so obnoxious when people say the protesters are just sore losers who are jealous of these smart guys in suits who beat them at the game of life. This isn't disappointment at having lost. It's anger because those other guys didn't really win.

FREE MONEY. Ordinary people have to borrow their money at market rates. Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon get billions of dollars for free, from the Federal Reserve. They borrow at zero and lend the same money back to the government at two or three percent, a valuable public service otherwise known as "standing in the middle and taking a gigantic cut when the government decides to lend money to itself."

Or the banks borrow billions at zero and lend mortgages to us at four percent, or credit cards at twenty or twenty-five percent. This is essentially an official government license to be rich, handed out at the expense of prudent ordinary citizens, who now no longer receive much interest on their CDs or other saved income. It is virtually impossible to not make money in banking when you have unlimited access to free money, especially when the government keeps buying its own cash back from you at market rates.

Your average chimpanzee couldn't fuck up that business plan, which makes it all the more incredible that most of the too-big-to-fail banks are nonetheless still functionally insolvent, and dependent upon bailouts and phony accounting to stay above water. Where do the protesters go to sign up for their interest-free billion-dollar loans?

CREDIT AMNESTY. If you or I miss a $7 payment on a Gap card or, heaven forbid, a mortgage payment, you can forget about the great computer in the sky ever overlooking your mistake. But serial financial fuckups like Citigroup and Bank of America overextended themselves by the hundreds of billions and pumped trillions of dollars of deadly leverage into the system -- and got rewarded with things like the Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program, an FDIC plan that allowed irresponsible banks to borrow against the government's credit rating.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/owss-beef-wall-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025#ixzz1khjyM3LR

[-] -1 points by smartcapitalist (143) 2 years ago

barking all day

[-] 3 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 2 years ago

How do you know? What party do you represent?

Wall street's oracle has a story to tell you.....when are you gonna start paying attention? This movement has nothing to do with Religion, race, creed or color or being represented by any particular group!! It is about the rich and the poor, and more, more, more for the former!!!

How long have you been attending rally's??

[-] -3 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

You're completely naive and woefully misinformed.

[-] 1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 2 years ago

You said google...google what? there are many stories that the newspapers, internet, etc. can put out here.... Here's what I found when I googled~~

http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart/main

http://www.freepress.net/taxonomy/term/197

TRUST NO ONE!!!!

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Well did you know that Wall Street was responsible for the rise of Hitler?

WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

And that Wall Street backed the Bolshevick Revolution:

WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/

Funny how life works, eh?

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 2 years ago

That web site is fabulous . . . And those books are classics.

http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/

I was able to download and read a free copy of "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution," by Anthony Sutton. However, I do intend to purchase a copy for my library.

http://www.antonysutton.com/

Antony Cyril Sutton (February 14, 1925 – June 17, 2002) was a British-born economist, historian, and writer.

Sutton studied at the universities of London, Göttingen, and California, and received his D.Sc. from the University of Southampton. He was an economics professor at California State University Los Angeles and a research fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution from 1968 to 1973. During his time at the Hoover Institution he wrote the major study Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development (in three volumes), arguing that the West played a major role in developing the Soviet Union from its very beginnings up until the present time (1970). Sutton argued that the Soviet Union's technological and manufacturing base—which was then engaged in supplying the Viet Cong – was built by United States corporations and largely funded by US taxpayers. Steel and iron plants, the GAZ automobile factory – a Ford subsidiary, located in eastern Russia – and many other Soviet industrial enterprises were, according to Sutton, built with the help or technical assistance of the United States or U.S. corporations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Glad you liked it.

[-] 0 points by mediaauditr (-88) 2 years ago

"The acceptance of the Young Plan and its financial principles increased unemployment more and more, until about one million were unemployed. People were desperate.

Hitler said he would do away with unemployment. The government in power at that time was very bad, and the situation of the people was getting worse. That really was the reason of the enormous success Hitler had in the election. When the last election came, he got about 40%.9"

DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR TO ANYONE? We are living through it!

[-] 0 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

Do you even know what Wall Street is?

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Professor Antony Sutton knows what Wall Street is. According to him, its the financier of Nazism and Bolshevism.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 2 years ago

Do you even know that Securities Fraud is a felony ?

Do you even know that private banks create and regulate U.S. currency and credit for their personal benefit at our expense ?

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. - Thomas Jefferson

The current banking and Wall Street crisis is a direct result of a private central bank system. We are cursed with the deliberately mis-named “Federal” Reserve which is no more than a privatized and exclusive debt-money creation system devoid of public ownership. In this so-called “independent” institution there is no public interest or power within its privately-owned, profit-seeking, system.

When the power to create our money and credit is in private hands, and based on an exclusive franchise for debt-money creation and sale of bonds at interest - as opposed to direct Treasury financing - then the entire economic and social system is set up for private profit, and debt ruin, at public expense. As history has proven, this structure is virtually guaranteed to result in endless predation, corruption, and eventual collapse at immense public expense.

The founders of this country well understood this very problem and so, in their wisdom, put the “purse powers” in the hands of the most democratic body – i.e., Congress – exactly so the people would have the right and power to vote on their monetary policy every two years, course correct their own society and economy, and escape the predictable ruin of a private debt-money system under which we have no alternative or escape.

http://publiccentralbank.com/

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

So do you advocate a national bank? If so, I think that's great. Not too many people here are on to that, but I think its one of the keys to having a growing economy once again.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 2 years ago

Thanks, I'll check it out.

[-] 0 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

holy cow can you type fast! Come one blaming Wall St for the Nazis and BOLSHEVIK's is going a bit far. I really don't think any historian would back you up there.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 2 years ago

Perhaps you should try reading his books as they are thoroughly documented.

[-] 0 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

just because its printed doesn't mean that's it is true.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 2 years ago

That is where documentation comes in . . and the credentials of the author.

http://www.antonysutton.com/

Trust no one ! !

Verify everything.

[-] 1 points by NKVD (55) 2 years ago

When did Nazism or Communism become illegal in this country?

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

In hell, where you can join him.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I'm sure he's rolling over in his grave, in womens underwear.

Searching for the ghost of McCarthy.

[-] -1 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

I thought that you liberals loved transvestites and other types of strange behaviour

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[-] 0 points by ironboltbruce (371) from Miami, FL 2 years ago

Call to Action!

Help Us Undo NDAA By Petitioning Your State Supreme Court For A Protective Writ of Habeus Corpus Like This One:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/petition-to-supreme-court-of-alaska-to-block-ndaa-/

You do NOT have to be a lawyer to file this petition, but the aid of attorneys is welcome!

[-] 0 points by mediaauditr (-88) 2 years ago

Initially Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, though such aspects were later downplayed in the 1930s to gain the support from industrial owners for the Nazis, focus was shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

Sound familiar? The current administrations demonization of the rich?

[-] 0 points by nobnot (529) from Kapaa, HI 2 years ago

You are a idiot

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[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Link?

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

So, you have an article from a white supremacist site urging those disenfranchised white boys to support OWS.

I want to know who the hell you are calling a radical with the following lines: a group of Islamist radicals representing the Council on American-Islamic Relations

[-] 0 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

that would be muslims from CAIR who went to one of the new york occupy protest. CAIR was convicted of funneling money to terrorist organizations.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

I am aware of the convictions. Which Islamist radicals showed up?

[-] 0 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

Good.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Which Islamist radicals showed up? I'm looking for names of known radicals, sweet pea. Was it the Islamist radicals that stood up against Anti-Sharia laws in states that were actually intended to break treaties with the Native Americans? You sure as hell weren't going to stand up for them, eh?

[-] 0 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

you are a strange women, and you really do not like this country do you?

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Names? Permalink all you want. Bring names of the known radical islamists associating with OWS. You had not problem insinuating, now back it up.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

I love this country. That is why I'm calling your bullshit. Which radicals would that be? The ones that went against Sharia law that was designed to break the treaties with the Native Americans? Again, you weren't about to stand up for them, were you? Didn't even blink an eye, did you? How unAmerican of you.

[-] 0 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

What are you talking about? Sharia, Native American treaties? You will have to give me more details...

[-] 0 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

Oh OK i know what you mean now. Your wording was confusing ,what you meant to say was the Oklahoma people voted to ban Sharia law but the Muslims CAIR radical terrorist lovers moved to prevent it . The law was blocked because it could also invalidate Tribal law... No i won't stand up for CAIR, but i would support the Native Americans, who have bravely fought to defend our country even after they were mistreated. Unfortunately i can't say the same for CAIR of muslims in general and it an embassment for OWS that CAIR supports them.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Right after you name the known radical Islamists that showed up. :D

[-] -1 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

it was Muthada al-Hanaoti and Siraj Wahhaj: Seems like you like terrorist.?

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Siraj Wahhaj, unindicted co-conspirator as in "evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence" and "what due process?". What are you doing there, Carltini? Reading Jihad Watch and WND? Muthada al-Hanaoti-unindicted co-conspirator same.

Sounds like your a Right Wing Christian McCartheism fundamentalist creep?

Whew, we solved a lot there, amiright? Listen carefully to what I am telling you, if you are arrested and there is evidence that you are engaging in terrorism then you should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If, however, your crime is simply because you are Muslim and have been seen talking to other Muslims then it becomes a dangerous silly game.

It should not be an embarrassment for OWS if CAIR supports them. If they did, how do you think that would go?

CAIR: We really really like you guys and support you.

OWS: NOOOOO. DON'T. DON'T. YOU'RE TAINTED.

CAIR pulls finger out and keeps it a half inch from the arm of a protester :I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you.

OWS: Moooooom. CAIR'S supporting me.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (23964) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

LOL!!!!!!!

Love it absolutely LOVE IT. You quite often make my day.

It was silly and o so true.

[-] 0 points by Carlitini99 (-167) 2 years ago

looks like i hit a nerve there. Look, i'm not going to change your mind on anything, you believe that America is fundamentally bad, and support groups that want to change to something else. I don't. So adios..

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

No, I don't think that America is fundamentally bad. That is ludicrous. You do look ignorant. Adios. :D

[+] -4 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

Fact! Just open that thing called a "browser" and google it.

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

I'm not going to google a god damned thing, headless. I expect if you are coming to act like a jack off you provide evidence...and a point. Dig what I am sayin'?

[-] 2 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 2 years ago

Amen and Hallelujah!!

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

Well, brainless anyway.

[-] -3 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

Hey these are the facts that are out there. If you'd rather remain clueless as to the truth about who actually supports OWS then by all means knock yourself out.

But what your attitude does reveal about you and many other OWS faithful is that you all aren't interested in truth but only the propaganda and falsehoods that keep you in your comfort zone.

[-] 3 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

If you make an accusation, it is up to YOU to provide the evidence.

Here's one: The Republican, Libertarian, and Tea Parties are all supported by North Korea. They engineered 9/11. They also killed Kennedy and caused the earthquakes in Haiti.

I guess I don't need to provide evidence. Simply saying it makes it true, right? After all, "The facts are out there."

You are a moron troll. Get a life. And make sure it's not here.

[-] -1 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

It's a fact not an accusation. It wouldn't matter what links or sources that I provided with this info,you would then question the source and talk shit about how it's not credible and yadda,yadda. Been there,done that,it's not worth it.

You Leftists are so fucking preDICKtable.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

So you have no sources. Just baseless declarations. Congratulations: you are an idiot. Your handle is right. You are headless (in both places.)

[-] -1 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

A fucking genius like you can figure it out I'm sure.

It's called research.
Something you do when you want to know more about the organisation you are in full support of but obviously are still ignorant about.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

You declared something. You prove it, Dickless.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Either bring some links to the party or shut the fuck up and sit down. Pretty simple shit there, headless. What your attitude reveals is that you are a douche bag and you serve no other purpose. Not my problem. Only you can prevent forest fires, kiddo.

[-] 0 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

You be lovin yourself some ignorance.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Herr Derr. You are so stupid.

[-] 0 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

I love you more.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

I think you are a fucking moron and should beaten severely about the face and neck.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Isn't it sad when morons fuck, and have headless children?

There oughta be a law!!

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Yeah!!!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (23964) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

LOL. That was perfect.

Thank you so much, not only for a timely remark, but for a very much needed laugh.

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

I have tried very hard but I never make it into the second verse of Kumbaya.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (23964) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Well apparently it is not as soul satisfying of a release. I think God understands. I know I do.

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Thanks. :D

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (23964) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Always. For a fighter of the good fight. And you fight well.

[-] 0 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

I got a good laugh out of that one.

[-] 2 points by rayl (1007) 2 years ago

is it really necessary to get so primitive? if he can't back up his position then accept it as such and ignore it. it doesn't do anyone any good to bicker like this.

[-] 0 points by headlesscross (67) 2 years ago

I can and did back it up. It's just that GirlFriday has a touch of Tourette Tics and actually she's quite funny.