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Forum Post: COINTELPRO & PSYOPS -- we need to be aware of their tactics. Ten truths to sell one lie.

Posted 10 years ago on Dec. 23, 2011, 9:52 a.m. EST by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY
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"If you give a man the correct information for seven years, he may believe the incorrect information on the first day of the eighth year when it is necessary, from your point of view, that he should do so. Your first job is to build the credibility and authenticity of your propaganda, and persuade the enemy to trust you although you are his enemy."

PSYOP Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures: http://www.disclose.tv/forum/psychological-operations-tactics-techniques-and-procedures-t45829.html (TA is target audience).

COINTELPRO: http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/covert_cit.html



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[-] 1 points by jomojo (562) 10 years ago

A statement from Memphis authorities reaffirming their policies relating to their citizens' right to lawfully protest, could help prevent another abuse of power. Quotes below are from the epilogue of the book "Protectors of Privilege: Red Squads and Police Repression in Urban America" by Frank Donner (a civil liberties lawyer)

"...Mayor Wyeth Chandler ordered the police to burn all the files of the Domestic Intelligence Unit (DIU, as the local red squad was called) and to abolish the unit altogether."........"In compliance with the mayor's order, 180 boxes of files were reportedly destroyed on September 10, 1976, at the very time the ACLU was in court to obtain a restraining order to preserve the files..."..............."embarrassing documents were unearthed in the basement of a building formerly used by the red squad that had escaped the mayor's destruction order..."...........(result:) "...a restrictive settlement decree used as a model in other litigation and legislative efforts." Source: Google Books http://books.google.com/books?id=FR1ogMhofc0C&pg=PA348&lpg=PA348&dq=memphis++Wyeth+Chandler+destroys+files+kept+on+citizens&source=bl&ots=Ia1MVqF-Uv&sig=dBd_54kwj0uQ_ddhEDIMn0P4qyE&hl=en&ei=kbeNTpzKKsuPsAKzopCgAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 10 years ago

If anything, it's even worse now. Thanks for the find.

[-] 1 points by jomojo (562) 10 years ago

I wonder if the restrictive settlement decree was/is of any use. A BBQ pit of intel. Memphis' police studied the NYC police tactics, or at least visited there, lately.

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 10 years ago

Good post.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 10 years ago

Thanks. The government, the military, the NYPD, the media deception (aka the CorpoRAT press) are all waging all out informationwarfare against us. Knowledge and truth are our best weapons.

[-] 0 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago

I haven't followed the links - constraints of both time and tolerance come into play.

I've experienced the tactics of psychological warfare - they are not pleasant. It is quite disturbing when you wake one day to find them practiced on your own city street - right outside your very door.

Something as simple as listening devices, and the proof that they exist, and that your own behavior has been quantified to a most minute degree - personal and ambiguous demonstrations of that fact are most

. . . . .disturbing. . . . .

when this proves insufficient to bend one's behavior, then, necessary or not, those in possession of such tools may be inclined to take the next most logical step.

Once you have a data set that includes minute behavioral details, preferences, beliefs, ideology, habits and behavior - you can begin to make highly accurate predictions.

This is what I call predictive behavioral technology.

And what is the ultimate conclusion of such tools?

. . . . ultimately all human behavior does terminate.

Therefore, any accurate predictive behavioral model must at some point predict death.

The utility of such tools lies in the ability to capitalize on that most universal of human traits - and that of emotion. Most of us do know fear.

It may, on occasion, be inconvenient or inadvisable to simply engineer a distraction while a subject is interacting with a highly dangerous facet of our environment, such as the highway. This may occur either because of the many and varied eyes that may or may not be watching at any given time; or it may be the result of perceived utility of a given subject.

By capitalizing on fear one may attempt to overcome such problems, and through a program of coercion elicit that which is deemed:

desirable behavior.

Where it is not expedient to simply kill a specific subject, demonstrations of that clear possibility may suffice. Just because it hasn't worked - not entirely - in my case does not negate the utility of such programs in the aggregate.

All that is required is the application of the predictive model, on some other subject, one that shares similar points of data with the subject to be coerced - names, places, dates, these are the data points.

Were I to coerce you, for example - I would not kill your girlfriend. Rather, I would make such a forecast using ambiguous means, and then kill someone else, with the same name, on a particular day you both share, it would occur under circumstances designed to draw national media attention - especially the first time such an event takes place that is designed to get your attention.

With careful planning, such events may have multiple utility, impacting multiple subjects whose behavior must be curbed.

Those who engage in such activities are of course, cowards.

I am sufficient proof of that most stunning fact.

Either that, or I am entirely delusional - I will leave that for others to decide for themselves.

Given the awareness I have just presented of the technology that exists, one may wonder why on earth I would ever vote for an incumbent -- to any office, anywhere in America.

In the case of the President the answer is quite simple.

Air Force One, and the fly by of the Statue of Liberty - in my view, this was a bit of theater, one designed to instill fear at the outset, and cast a long shadow over the President himself. Do I have proof of such an assertion?


Yet from my perspective, the iconography is unmistakable.

Vote as you like. That's just my perspective.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 10 years ago

On listening and/or tracking devices I once read that the Brits knew what IRA suspects were doing 24/7. When they were sleeping, going to the bathroom, everything. How'd they do this?

Intimidation by murder of innocent thirdparty with same name, clever. The perps and point of the action will never be suspected by the population at large.

Caltherine Austin Fitts to Max Keiser:

“I think at the heart of the matter, Max, it’s not sort of ‘banks out of control’. . . . it’s physical violence, because a lot of what has happened . . . is you have people who are afraid to say ‘no’ because the result of saying ‘no’ is physical violence directed at them or their families. I mean, we’ve had lots of people murdered and assassinated, etc., etc. . . .

“The reality is we have a force operating in the world that is completely. . . operating outside of the law and no one yet has come up with a way to stop it.

“We’re talking about violent mobster operations. . . So, you know, so people who try and run the Government clean or run Wall Street clean are targeted and literally, you know, have to fear for their lives.

“I mean, people have been dying, so, you know, it’s a very, very dangerous situation, and the challenge is: If you have people who can kill and physically harass with impunity, how do you run a governance process?”

http://luckykiwi.wordpress.com/2011/08/ http://rt.com/programs/keiser-report/keiser-herbert-treasury-sec-456/comments/

[-] 0 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago

In "Caltherine Austin Fitts to Max Keiser:" the speaker makes an extremely valid point.

It is a point I've been attempting to bring to the fore for some time.

Yet it appears that somehow, in the run up to the election of 2008, some distinct corner was turned. How and why this happened is for me nothing more than a matter of speculation - but that it did happen is I think most clearly illustrated by the fact that the Occupy Movement itself has risen up, in such a timely manner.

I think it is clear that we do have the opening to focus on the banking piece of this issue, and begin from there.

How much progress we make on the issue of violence harnessed in various ways to induce population control and management remains to be seen.

I'm a sick bastard myself - but you will have that with any dog that is kicked, repeatedly, and without reason.

Because I am so twisted I would indeed use such principles of ambiguous forms of violence and death upon those who cling to the reins of power and subvert our republic and its democratic processes to their own ends.

I would kill them all.

As I said.

sick and twisted.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 10 years ago

The strategy of the criminal 1% killers only works until it's outed. There's actually only a very small number of them, but they seem very strategic.

[-] 0 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago

Is any of that true? I don't know. I've been attempting to out the practice for some time.

Instances where two individuals bear the same name - like

  • Stephen King author of such books as Fire Starter, who was hit by a car on June 19, 1999 up in Maine, coinciding with the death of a child of the same name on the west coast who was in a ditch with a friend playing with matches - the ditch was filled with gasoline that had leaked from something like a mile away;


  • Annie Le who went missing September 8, 2009, and was found on September 13; strangled; combined with another instance of murder in California during that week, a woman of the same name who killed her own child with a knife;

are, without question, statistically significant - but to the average observer appear as mere coincidence - and in fact, closer examination sheds no real light on how it could possibly be otherwise.

Without an examination of the tools and techniques that make such events possible, and the mindset that justifies them compelled to defend such events, it becomes difficult if not impossible to suggest that any long term solution is at hand.

Incidents of individuals going off, killing themselves and or others, while proclaiming some unidentifiable they are out to get them, may have declined in the last few years - but who is to say that such incidents will not once again take place, in apparent random manner, without public examination of how and why this has taken place in the past?

Going Postal became an expression as a result of numerous incidents involving Postal workers in the 1990s. What ever pressures and or events conspired to produce such behavior may not now exist, with regard to Postal Workers - but if we do not know what pressures, or what events, could create such an anomalous set of apparent coincidence, we can never assure ourselves that a solution has been found.


[-] 0 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago

I don't do drugs. The war on drugs has been an excuse to employ tactics of psy-ops of various kinds.

If I sound like I'm on meth it's probably just my endocrine system kicking in.

Behavioral conditioning can be like that.

At least I post in whole sentences - rather than presenting whole chunks of information just as they are encoded in the brain - by association.

Often those who have been subjected to that world of Alice, that Wonderland of Madness - they develop a process of ranting where huge issues become encapsulated with single representative images -


to encapsulate several concepts at once:

  • human engineering in a general sense

    • human engineering in the specific - the Florida Butterfly Ballot
  • the use of torture as a matter of state policy

  • indefinite detention

  • WMD in Iraq

    • manipulation of public perception

and so on, on and on.

I've done it, I've seen others do it. It happens when a subject expects to be interrupted, the expectation of consequence, the expectation of both pain and death - these produce response in the endocrine system that are difficult to control.

Such reactions have a utility - that being the discredit of the subject who has not mastered that rush of adrenaline, recognizing what is happening, how it serves to undercut their own message . . .

Usually a trip to the loony bin is right around the corner in such cases - a place I have never been, but I have seen that outcome for several others in just such circumstances.

[-] 0 points by Frizolio (80) 10 years ago

I think drugs should be legalized and the DEA disband. However Meth is a poisonous chemical concoction and should be treated as attempted murder for making and selling it. Users should be detoxed and stripped of any rights to medical care.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago

Users should be detoxed and stripped of any rights to medical care.

I see.

So automatically, they become sub-human . . .



[-] 0 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago

you seem to leap to the conclusion that a former meth addict has nothing of value to contribute to society and never will -

and therefore should not benefit from any social services what so ever.

This is a policy that will ensure social instability and reinforce perceptions of injustice - such policies are not without consequence.







[-] 1 points by orz (83) 10 years ago

The word "choice" has to be qualified. We could take it to mean that a person is totally free and so totally responsible for the effects of the decision. But most, if not all, situations come with an influential background that isn't presently chosen. We try not to advertise cigarettes to children for this reason, among other examples.


[-] 0 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago

Ah, I see.

You come by your judgment honestly, and after a great deal of personal pain.

I'm a friend of Bills myself . . .

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 10 years ago

It was kind of funny when you said that you didn't have time to look at the links, but then you apparently spent an hour typing that wall of text.

[-] 0 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago

I noted two considerations

both of them constraints -

  • one of time

  • the other of tolerance

I am confident, that should you discover for yourself:

the tactics of psychological warfare - they are not pleasant. It is quite disturbing when you wake one day to find them practiced on your own city street - right outside your very door.

then you will truly understand the meaning, the essence of tolerance

and you will know beyond doubt, what is intolerable.